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Topic: Librans 😩😩😩
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EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 10, 2017 02:39 AM
Do Librans EVER MAKE UP THEIR MINDS.????Wtf does it take to make them decide something? What do I do to coax them to get off the damn fence? They are SO FRUSTRATING! IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 6453 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted March 10, 2017 03:02 AM
Hahahahahaha what is the issue you are having love?! IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 592 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 10, 2017 03:13 AM
No. They never successfully make up their mind. Either they will keep indecisive or they will run from it (hate to decide).My younger sister is Libra, she's always frustrating especially in making a decision and admits it, although she looks like making one, deep down she's still unsure. My Aries moon always help her to make a decision, at least in the surface. She follows because she thinks it will make everyone's happy. What is your Libras moon/mercury? My sister has moon in Cap and mercury in Virgo, still, she is always unsure deep down. She can tell you she loves/cares you but still open to any man. She is fair in her terms. lol. IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 10, 2017 05:03 AM
Oh it's a damn love issue. More like a love triangle of sorts 😩He has libra sun/Mercury/Pluto conjunct. With most other planets in Scorpio. I'll tell you the story but please don't judge me. I'm just wanting to get my head around the whole Libra way of thinking. We've known one another for over 10 years but I was married back then. Always an intense energy between us. His stellium in Scorpio conjuncts my ASC. So in the last little since I've gotten divorced he's popped up again and messages me. We met up in Jan and he was trembling with nerves. Pretty much wanted to rip my damn clothes off but nothing happened. Our eye contact so intense. The pull is insanely strong. BUT and oh yes here's the complication. Comes in the form of another girl he's been dating who is madly in love with him. But the attraction is nowhere near as strong as it is with me. He can't bring himself to hurt her bc she's had a v bad track record with guys. Which is why we haven't met up since. He is afraid he won't be able to hold back. Also of his intense emotions. Admits he's always dreamt about me and continues to. Messages me most days. So I felt bad bc obviously for her but also it seems our timing has been off again. I've told him that he needs to decide that either we have coffee to just "see" what this thing is that we have in case it becomes a situation of "the one that got away" or we back off from one another. A psychic has suggested that he feels like a twin flame. Who knows. I won't go into that jargon tho. Enter his sad face. 😔 I'm like what are you feeling about all this? He honestly doesn't know what to do. He doesn't want to hurt either of us. So yeah it's a big hot mess and I just hope he ends up deciding. Coz I can't wait around. I'm finding this incredibly difficult tbh...
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girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 1065 From: CH Registered: Jul 2016
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posted March 10, 2017 05:10 AM
dump his libra a** and find an Aries instead ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)
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EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 10, 2017 05:15 AM
^^ lol My last two guys have been Aries and I find they make amazing friends for me but as lovers it's a bit light and not Plutonian enough. I NEED DEPTH 💜IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 592 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 10, 2017 05:50 AM
If you are hoping him to decide, I'm afraid, you can not. If he happens to do so, I'm afraid he is not fully making a decision inside of his mind, prob only to make you happy (means: avoiding chaos/conflict).Are you a Gemini sun? It should not be difficult for you to make Libras choose you. Libras love charming people, which means they are not really looking at you in depth and most of the time they're also like a light-hearted relationship. Charming people = delightful relationship. If you are looking for a depth, well, Libras still an Air sun (although if they have scorpio somewhere). One thing I know about Libra is they really know how to charm the pants of you, they really know how to use their charm (like Geminis know how to use words, if you know what I mean) - what I want to say is if they have venus in scorpio, they will charm you with their scorpio aura (same with other venuses), but you need to remember they are still a Libra. Sometimes the scorpio inside the Libra sun only make them master in manipulation to get what they want if they let themselve to use it. Hmm.. My younger sister is happened to be my partner in crime, so we talk a lot about our sun signs. Decisiveness definitely not a strong point of Libras, that is why there's Aries. Edit: If Libras hold fairness strong, and finally make a decision, usually it is for their own advantages but won't let you know the truth, they can make it like it is to make everyone's happy. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 1065 From: CH Registered: Jul 2016
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posted March 10, 2017 06:13 AM
lol sorry I couldn't offer any helpyes I find that geminis often chase libras! at least before they decide to settle down for good! with a scorpio, taurus or capricorn perhaps! but he seems like a mature libra, moral and wise...we know how their less mature types would be happy to let anyone in! if the other girl really loves him and he feels the same for her then he must be a very honorable man , hard to find these days IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 1150 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted March 10, 2017 07:15 AM
Virgo falls in their 12th house, subconsciously, they want to make the perfect (Virgo) decision.IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 10, 2017 08:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by hearttreasure: If you are hoping him to decide, I'm afraid, you can not. If he happens to do so, I'm afraid he is not fully making a decision inside of his mind, prob only to make you happy (means: avoiding chaos/conflict).Are you a Gemini sun? It should not be difficult for you to make Libras choose you. Libras love charming people, which means they are not really looking at you in depth and most of the time they're also like a light-hearted relationship. Charming people = delightful relationship. If you are looking for a depth, well, Libras still an Air sun (although if they have scorpio somewhere). One thing I know about Libra is they really know how to charm the pants of you, they really know how to use their charm (like Geminis know how to use words, if you know what I mean) - what I want to say is if they have venus in scorpio, they will charm you with their scorpio aura (same with other venuses), but you need to remember they are still a Libra. Sometimes the scorpio inside the Libra sun only make them master in manipulation to get what they want if they let themselve to use it. Hmm.. My younger sister is happened to be my partner in crime, so we talk a lot about our sun signs. Decisiveness definitely not a strong point of Libras, that is why there's Aries. Edit: If Libras hold fairness strong, and finally make a decision, usually it is for their own advantages but won't let you know the truth, they can make it like it is to make everyone's happy.
Yes I'm a Gemini sun with Scorpio asc and he seems to have a great deal of depth because he has Venus/mars/moon/Uranus conjunct in Scorpio and as I mentioned this stellium conjuncts my ASC. Hence why the attraction is so strong. There must be a point where they end up deciding otherwise they would struggle through life. But what will push them to decide? If I made the choice instead and told him I'm going to back off, what do you think he would do? IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 10, 2017 08:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul: lol sorry I couldn't offer any helpyes I find that geminis often chase libras! at least before they decide to settle down for good! with a scorpio, taurus or capricorn perhaps! but he seems like a mature libra, moral and wise...we know how their less mature types would be happy to let anyone in! if the other girl really loves him and he feels the same for her then he must be a very honorable man , hard to find these days
I asked him if he's in love with her and he said he doesn't even know what that means for him. Like he's never been IN love. But he seems honourable to a point. He's messages me so.....
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girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 1065 From: CH Registered: Jul 2016
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posted March 10, 2017 09:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: I asked him if he's in love with her and he said he doesn't even know what that means for him. Like he's never been IN love. But he seems honourable to a point. He's messages me so.....
lol I remember my ex (libra moon conjunct pluto), with whom I had a bad habit of friendzoning and bringing up my exes (I was too young back then, and he was sort of a father figure). his answer to me when I was describing to him the feelings I experienced with another ex was a pitiful look along with saying "you haven't experienced love yet, you don't know what real love is", which I immediately sensed he was talking about himself (projecting his own thoughts into judgments directed at others) or my libra moon sister who says she has never felt "love" for any guy (her moon is trine her saturn/venus in Aquarius) I think libras are often very logical perhaps even overthinking it when it comes to love. if he has a scoprio venus then add the distrust too but you're right, he has come as far as texting someone else outside his current relationship, so let's see how far he stretches his fairness or how loyal his scorpio remains! IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 592 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 10, 2017 09:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: Yes I'm a Gemini sun with Scorpio asc and he seems to have a great deal of depth because he has Venus/mars/moon/Uranus conjunct in Scorpio and as I mentioned this stellium conjuncts my ASC. Hence why the attraction is so strong. There must be a point where they end up deciding otherwise they would struggle through life. But what will push them to decide? If I made the choice instead and told him I'm going to back off, what do you think he would do?
Air suns are thinkers. Decision will come through logically, I mean, there's a high chance that decision will come from the head, not from the feelings. He has mercury in Libra, so he will calculate everything based on what his mind told him, it is no surprise he said he doesn't know if the questions involve with asking his feelings. Do you have Aries placement in your chart? Aries is not afraid of making a decision, this is one quality that attract most Libra to Aries if there's an attraction between them. Since Libra is indecisive, they will follow Aries everywhere because the less stress of making a decision. Libras always under stress because the need to balance thing with everything, but they hide it very well. This is why they may look lazy or love to sleep. But again, if Aries' decision is on their terms. They will be happy someone makes a decision for them or secretly building a resentment. Situation only can push them to make a decision (not the people). They love in happy environment or energy not necessarily with happy people (surprisingly they can have high jealous tendency). If Libras happy, they will create happy environment/energy. If Libras not happy, they don't like you be happy (can be passive aggressive when they are not happy and will make you like carrying a baggage if you let them down). They love attention and low key will want your attention all the time. Again, this is why they love charming people because they need this people to entertain and make them happy, always (at least in the surface), because secretly they are under stress all the time. If you know one very well, like mine, yes I can say why Libras are the opposite of Aries. If you make a choice to backing off, Libra will respect your decision but will offer you a friendship. They may look sad to make you think they will lose you but don't forget they are Libras, they will glad that you're making a decision (although they will tell you later they miss you, etc), they are very uncomfortable making a decision because it will make them look bad/selfish, well, they are the low key version of Aries. For me, Libras are as confusing as Geminis. I've seen both tend to chase each other because of the fun, I mean, both processing the attraction based on outer look. As you are Gemini, I think you know what I mean that Air signs are thinkers. Don't forget Libras too. Libras and Geminis are very social person, so you know what I mean if I tell you about constant flirting in social meeting. If one told you they are not flirting, trust me, they are, ask the other person they flirt with. Lol. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 6453 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted March 10, 2017 12:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul: dump his libra a** and find an Aries instead ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)
Hahahaha IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 6453 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted March 10, 2017 12:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: ^^ lol My last two guys have been Aries and I find they make amazing friends for me but as lovers it's a bit light and not Plutonian enough. I NEED DEPTH 💜
Once a libra makes up their mind they will commit to you till the end. I feel part of the problem is that he feels committed to her already... IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 10, 2017 06:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by hearttreasure: Air suns are thinkers. Decision will come through logically, I mean, there's a high chance that decision will come from the head, not from the feelings.He has mercury in Libra, so he will calculate everything based on what his mind told him, it is no surprise he said he doesn't know if the questions involve with asking his feelings. Do you have Aries placement in your chart? Aries is not afraid of making a decision, this is one quality that attract most Libra to Aries if there's an attraction between them. Since Libra is indecisive, they will follow Aries everywhere because the less stress of making a decision. Libras always under stress because the need to balance thing with everything, but they hide it very well. This is why they may look lazy or love to sleep. But again, if Aries' decision is on their terms. They will be happy someone makes a decision for them or secretly building a resentment. Situation only can push them to make a decision (not the people). They love in happy environment or energy not necessarily with happy people (surprisingly they can have high jealous tendency). If Libras happy, they will create happy environment/energy. If Libras not happy, they don't like you be happy (can be passive aggressive when they are not happy and will make you like carrying a baggage if you let them down). They love attention and low key will want your attention all the time. Again, this is why they love charming people because they need this people to entertain and make them happy, always (at least in the surface), because secretly they are under stress all the time. If you know one very well, like mine, yes I can say why Libras are the opposite of Aries. If you make a choice to backing off, Libra will respect your decision but will offer you a friendship. They may look sad to make you think they will lose you but don't forget they are Libras, they will glad that you're making a decision (although they will tell you later they miss you, etc), they are very uncomfortable making a decision because it will make them look bad/selfish, well, they are the low key version of Aries. For me, Libras are as confusing as Geminis. I've seen both tend to chase each other because of the fun, I mean, both processing the attraction based on outer look. As you are Gemini, I think you know what I mean that Air signs are thinkers. Don't forget Libras too. Libras and Geminis are very social person, so you know what I mean if I tell you about constant flirting in social meeting. If one told you they are not flirting, trust me, they are, ask the other person they flirt with. Lol.
My SN is in Aries so I guess I've been used to getting what I want and if I want something nothing will stop me. Also the impatience. I have Leo Mars which may bring the fire needed in this decision, although it conjuncts Saturn and my moon. The one thing he has said before is that he doesn't want either her or I to think he's an ******* . He doesn't want to look bad so you're right about that. The guy has been masturbating to my photos for years! Has wild sex dreams about me and has no problem telling me. He said he's never wanted someone so insanely in his life and wouldn't last longer than a minute if he saw me in unleashing a long held deep lust. His words. Surely all of his Scorpio is going to be influencing him pretty heavily too. The whole chart needs to be considered no? The other thing is that he's moving to LA soon for his acting career and she knows this. So clearly they will be ending things. And I'm booked to go to LA in August for training so this will be very interesting. Edit: what I find very telling is that he never posts pics with her on his social media. Like he doesn't want people to know. She posts pics with him and tags him but he doesn't show it on his timeline. Ha. IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 10, 2017 06:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Once a libra makes up their mind they will commit to you till the end. I feel part of the problem is that he feels committed to her already...
I think so too hypatia. I'm pretty sure her SN conjuncts his saturn too. joys. I was single when they got together and now he regrets not contacting me back then because things could have worked out differently. Plus that was when his progressed venus was conjunct my ASC which is a relationship starter. Now it's separating 3 degrees I think. Timing is blergh. IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 592 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 10, 2017 08:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by EmGem: My SN is in Aries so I guess I've been used to getting what I want and if I want something nothing will stop me. Also the impatience. I have Leo Mars which may bring the fire needed in this decision, although it conjuncts Saturn and my moon. The one thing he has said before is that he doesn't want either her or I to think he's an ******* . He doesn't want to look bad so you're right about that.
Oh, well, you have Leo mars. I have found Scorpio and Leo always have strong attraction because Scorpio can make Leo feels "special", this will feed Leo's ego successfully everytime. But then things can be ugly, lol, no, I'm just kidding. ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/biggrin.gif) quote: Originally posted by EmGem:
The guy has been masturbating to my photos for years! Has wild sex dreams about me and has no problem telling me. He said he's never wanted someone so insanely in his life and wouldn't last longer than a minute if he saw me in unleashing a long held deep lust. His words. Surely all of his Scorpio is going to be influencing him pretty heavily too. The whole chart needs to be considered no?
Lol. Openly telling you like that are so Scorpio moon, I think maybe this is how they seduce their target. I've been chased by several Scorpio moon too and all of them like this, I personally think it's gross because I have not known them very well yet (we may know each other for years but only having few meet up/talk here and there, for me I still don't know them yet lol). My close friend is a scorpio moon (he admits I am his closest person ever), he LOVES talking about sex and not shy showing me porn video in public area (it's like our everyday conversation), how he will/have done it with his partner, etc. Sometimes I sense he tries to lead me on too. Everytime we are in social meeting, he will pick one and two based on how sexy they are/sexual energy. He has good eyes to see who is the kinky one, who is the passionate one, the wild one, etc, probably he has already read all the Kamasutra. lol. This moon definitely loves taboo things and break the rules. I just randomly read that Scorpio mooners are torn between being loyal and having no trust with anyone. Often they choose not trusting anyone. But they expect you to be loyal. Sure they can make you feel "special" which any Leo placement will absolutely love the attention. People who love attention often will fall under Scorpio mooners seductive games until how far you can go with them. lol. I'm just teasing. Of course the whole chart needs to be considered. But I have found women tend to be complex, so the whole chart reading is necessary. Men? They are quiet simple. And my thinking process change into a structure piece of steps, I will always see them from the sun and mars where this will be their personality most of the time. Mercury if you want to know how their thinking process. And so on.. The basic Libras I've known, they will always have a hard time to make a decision. Except if they have Scorpio mercury conjunct pluto, although they will take some time too until they finally can make up their mind and you can not shake it, only with their terms. Libra mix Scorpio, it's sure a war inside. lol. Wishing you all the best. Good luck! ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/smile.gif) IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3003 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted March 10, 2017 10:52 PM
Indecisive Libra. Good one.Libra wnts beauty, money, and the good life. He's already made his decision. What ur experiencing is the easy letdown. IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 10, 2017 10:59 PM
^^ not necessarily re decision. He should maybe stop messaging me first.@hearttreasure, thank you so much. I kinda like the Scorpio moon way haha. Honesty turns me on even if it's dirty lol. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8835 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 10, 2017 11:04 PM
I don't know the nuances of this sitch, so I can't say. Sometimes Libra really does need a kick in the pants to get going. Other times to pressure them to decide now, especially based on feelings rather than deliberation, is a good way to lose them, or gain them with a lot of unwanted resentment thrown in.And I don't trust psychics that glibly toss around words like "twin flame." Perhaps the best way to approach this is to ask him what he thinks like will be like in 20 years if he chooses her...and if he chooses you. This could help him think more dispassionately about the sitch and make a decision that is sincere. Once he makes a decision (and yes, Librans make decisions all the time) then he is likely to let others know one way or another. Of course, he could just be one of those men that come a dime a dozen who wants to have his cake and eat it, too. IP: Logged |
colorful butterfly Knowflake Posts: 1028 From: Durham north carolina usa Registered: May 2015
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posted March 11, 2017 12:11 AM
I have a libra moon conjunct pluto, Cancer sun, gemini mars and venus. Every relationship is always logical that I commit to , even when I get the what ifs. My ex husband , when I married him in my head I thought: He is my first love and if it didn't work out then I could always get a divorce. What ended it, he lied a lot, manipulative and talked about me behind my back TO MY FRIENDS and FAMILY!!! Then would talk trash to me about them trying to make me not want to be around them. Basically cutting me off from people. Very controlling!!! Kept tabs on me while he was the one who was out doing god knows what. Took out loans and wouldn't tell me about them, just at the time not responsible enough and we were to young to be married. Another boyfriend, he owned his own house, was older, we got along, had good conversation, he made good money, he was good with kids although he had no kids, didn't mind doing things, kept things interesting, could make me laugh, and the sex was good..... The bad was he seemed wimpy as far as being in situations that I thought he should been there( didn't feel very protected) , nitpicky, ego got in the way from time to time, would leave me sitting home alone to go out with his friends but would pout if I did him that way. Then some of the other stuff just seemed to fade away from the positive. I have feelings but this is how things go as far as making the decisions whither to be with someone or not. IP: Logged |
DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 217 From: Ottawa and Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted March 11, 2017 01:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul: dump his libra a** and find an Aries instead ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)
Gem female and Aries male... yes. Gem male and Aries female...no way!!!. ==================================== Gemini Sun, Capricorn Rising Aries Moon Gemini Mercury Venus Taurus Mars Cancer IP: Logged |
wal2 Knowflake Posts: 85 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted March 11, 2017 02:02 AM
I'm a Libra and to be honest indecision can be a form of manipulation for us.ex. I am meeting a friend and I would like to have Mexican food, although she doesn't really like Mexican food. She will ask me what I want for dinner and I will say I don't really know, when really I know it's Mexican food but if I come out and say it like that she'll probably reject the idea right away. She offers several things which I ho hum on and then eventually she finds by chance this very cute cafe that doesn't do dinner but has very nice desserts. I will warily mention among several other dining choices that I know would be even less appealing that there is a Mexican restaurant in that area we could go to, although I know she really doesn't like Mexican, and I profess to not have interest either way. She admits the convenience of the situation but she doesn't really want to eat there just yet. Later, once this conversation has passed from memory (critical to the strategy), I mention a childhood story I read about a mom who drops her wedding ring while making tamales and all the kids stuff themselves eating every tamale to find the ring. She tells me she has never had a tamale and I mention that the restaurant near the cafe offers that. She agrees to have a light meal at the restaurant and shows interest to try the tamales. Naturally, there's nothing light about Mexican food so we end up being too full for the cafe and I get a really decent Mexican meal out of it. I get what I wanted through professing indecision. This is what I did two weeks ago word for word... If I am truly on the fence about something I've noticed I tend to actually profess my opinion on those topics more, I guess as a way of trying to convince myself if I'm right through seeing if my tentative theory on the topic can pass through someone else. On the other hand, if it appears I can't make up my mind on the outside, it is usually rather that I already have but I am waiting for you to organically come to the conclusion I've already quietly made. If you don't offer exactly what I've already decided upon I tend to answer "I don't knowww" but this basically me saying no, in an effort to guide you to the right path. This is conflict avoidance at heart, as we would rather not tell you directly something that could invoke a negative reaction. This is probably enhanced in my chart because I have Mars in Libra as well. I have Mercury in Virgo which is loosely conjunct my Sun and Mars out of sign so that's maybe also why I'm mostly okay with defcon 5 strategizing to get my friend to eat Mexican food with me rather than just saying "I'm craving Mexican." Actually I have an Aries friend who always tells me to tell her what I want. She seems to see through this act of mine and she always knows I want something but I'm hiding it and she always tells me to just tell her what it is lol. But I liken it to a nude beach situation, for some people it can be liberating to say what you want all the time but for others it can be embarrassing and exposing. That sensation can be exhausting for me after a while ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/frown.gif) IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1778 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 11, 2017 02:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: I don't know the nuances of this sitch, so I can't say. Sometimes Libra really does need a kick in the pants to get going. Other times to pressure them to decide now, especially based on feelings rather than deliberation, is a good way to lose them, or gain them with a lot of unwanted resentment thrown in.And I don't trust psychics that glibly toss around words like "twin flame." Perhaps the best way to approach this is to ask him what he thinks like will be like in 20 years if he chooses her...and if he chooses you. This could help him think more dispassionately about the sitch and make a decision that is sincere. Once he makes a decision (and yes, Librans make decisions all the time) then he is likely to let others know one way or another. Of course, he could just be one of those men that come a dime a dozen who wants to have his cake and eat it, too.
Thanks PixieJane. I hope I havent lost him but I feel that my messsge to him was actually rather sweet, non judgmental and honest, not pushy. I pretty much said I don't know what to do bc we flirt, dance around one another, dream about one another and have had this insane pull for so long. But I feel rather than drag this on and on perhaps we could meet to see what this thing is. Or alternatively maybe I need to back off and let you get on with your life with her as much as it hurts me to say that. So I was opening the discussion pretty much. It's just a damn coffee I'm not asking him to marry me or commit to me. It's just to see each other so we know. I also can't wait forever when all I want to do is touch him and look into those beautiful eyes again. And I know he feels the same but he has A LOT of strength and discipline too. I just find it interesting that he doesn't show he's with her on social media. Thats not a good sign. IP: Logged | |