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Topic: Mastering Solar arc method? Please help
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Valmu83 Knowflake Posts: 895 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 11, 2017 08:42 AM
Sorry if this is wrong forum. I'm not believing thou, that in personal readings, there are visiting people who can help me with this (as likely anyway). I struggling with solar arcs as I have basic knowledge but I'm unable to use it in practise in creative way. Like rulerships and house positions. I have tried but it's beyond me I'm not in the relationship and I don't have children. And I would very much love to have one or two and loving relationship. If someone could look my arcs and help me? Maybe I'm feeling biological clock ticking as this thing is my mind so strongly now. I post my info here but please don't quote I can even pay (when I get my next salary) if it's too much work/effort to do for free. I actually feel sometimes that I'm becoming crazy when thinking about this. And then I mostly try not to. Somehow I feel it would be revealing to know if family is not supposed happen to me. And if it so, I could try to not feel pain anymore. And sorry for saying this but please no moralistic, supposedly helpful nonsense here. I don't have strength to deal with it right now EDIT EDIT IP: Logged |
colorful butterfly Knowflake Posts: 1136 From: Durham north carolina usa Registered: May 2015
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posted March 11, 2017 11:29 AM
Predictions are very hard to do but Kannon Macafee is on here and he is really good with progressed charts, natal charts etc. From what I have studied and seen, Jupiter seems to represent husband in a woman chart. On the day I married my ex husband, I had sun conjunct venus in my solar arc chart. If your Virgo rising? I read Virgo rising marries twice but unsure. Also can mean you marry your husband twice like renewal of vowels. This is just what I read though. IP: Logged |
Valmu83 Knowflake Posts: 895 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 11, 2017 12:39 PM
Thank you for answering when SA sun is next time in hard aspects to my Venus I'm way beyond childbearing age. So that's way I can't rely on that. Like finding classical arcs to fall in love and hoping that children will follow. So I think house positions and rulers have to be taken account..and that's too complicated for me. And I don't want to make misinterpretation for myself again I agree that Kannon is really skillful..I think he helped me ones before. Hope he or someone else sees this ! IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3710 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 11, 2017 12:41 PM
i'm not sure what solar arcs are for, i dont believe in solar arcs, secondary progressions, relocation charts, solar return charts, i only believe in primary progressions. i'm not sure why god doesnt want everyone else to know about it though. IP: Logged |
Valmu83 Knowflake Posts: 895 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 11, 2017 01:11 PM
Hmm..@soren I'm not that familiar with primary progression. I have heard about it thou. I don't have any software to calculate those..I think that would be needed? Have you predicted things accurately with that?IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3710 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 11, 2017 01:13 PM
you dont need software its the simplist thing. you dont predict anything with it. you dont need to it's the most MAJOR reflection on what is going on in your life with your moods, your outlook. when my sun progressed to the 12th, i had a major damper on me like never before. i became vegetarian. verry peaceful. i began trying to care about the world. IP: Logged |
Valmu83 Knowflake Posts: 895 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 11, 2017 01:20 PM
Yes prediction was quite wrong word. How do you read those transits? There is some book/study about those? Or are they directions? IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3710 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 11, 2017 01:23 PM
its simple. your chart progresses at a rate of about 4.8 minutes after your birth per 1 year of life. so if you are 27, times that by 4.8 which is 130. so enter in your same birth town, but move your birth time ahead by 130 minutes (which is 2 hours and 10 minutes) and this is your primary progressed position. it's fully accurate, believe me. this is where your sun is now. kannon has said this method was disproved, by some guy. i know its not. but he can feel free to bring up any reasons why, but i know there isnt any. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3710 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 11, 2017 01:30 PM
so if your sun is in the 9th now, then you have a strong sag influence in your life. not as strong as natal, but noticeable traits. its the "new" you. IP: Logged |
Valmu83 Knowflake Posts: 895 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 11, 2017 02:12 PM
Thanks Soren. With quick search I found calculator from Astro.com but not yet info how to read these directions. Can you say something about these or point me the direction where to find more info EDIT IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3710 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 11, 2017 02:15 PM
you dont want to use that. if you do what i said, (did you understand the instructions) it'll show you the progressed chart. it'll show you aspects for the entire year. next year, for example if you are 27 and next year you will be 28, times 28 by 4.8 and now add that amount of time to your birth time. it will be around 1-2 degrees forward from age 27. so very little difference. you want to look out for when your planets/suns/moons will change houses. major changes. but for some reason god doesnt want anyone to know of this technique. i think he said it might curse us all. IP: Logged |
Valmu83 Knowflake Posts: 895 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 11, 2017 02:29 PM
Okay, why i can't use that? Well I did do now what you suggested and my Sun is at 10th house (Leo 29°38'13) and Moon at 4th (Agua 26°29'28) and Asc Libra..?Edit: Or if I understood this is from my natal chart with birthtime + 158,4min IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3710 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 11, 2017 02:32 PM
you cant use that because thats not primary progressions. in primary progressions, no new aspects would be made in several months. it would take years. like 15 years. lets say for example you were born at 5:25 Am in paris, france. so you are 27, times 27 by 4.8 = 130. add 130 minutes to 5:25 am. So now enter in (just for example): 7:35am, Paris, France. This is your progressed chart (7:35am is 130 minutes, or 2 hours and 10 mins after 5:25am.) IP: Logged |
Valmu83 Knowflake Posts: 895 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 11, 2017 02:40 PM
Ah okay so primary progressions and primary directions are not the same thing then? That was named like that.Where I can find information how to interpret these planetary positions on my primary progression chart? IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3710 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 11, 2017 02:43 PM
primary progressions/directions are the same thing. no differences. just different letters. same meaning. you interpret it like a regular natal, but its just a layer over you. its the planetary movements/positions just hours after birth. say you were born with a 10th house sun, your atoms in your brain are locking to that energy. now say 1 hour later, the sun just moved into the 9th. now your brain is locking to a 9th house sun. as we age, we slowly tune into these parts of the brain. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3710 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 11, 2017 02:45 PM
oh yeah this will help prove my point that its your brain that the natal resides in: there is 100 trillion atoms in a single cell. fact. there is 100 trillion cells in the body. so there is roughly around 1.6 trillion in your brain alone. 1.6 trillion times 100 trillion means there is 1.6x10^26 atoms in your brain. those atoms are connected to everything in existence. hence gravity. for an example. 1.6x10^26 is more stars then there is in the universe. exactly 1600000 times more. if you dont know how many stars there are, theres about 100 million in a galaxy, and theres about 100 billion galaxies. there's 1600000 times more atoms in your brain then that. so yes they get coded IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3710 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 11, 2017 02:49 PM
if you took a spec of your skin invisible to see (so small), there is as much atoms in it as there are stars in the visible universe, which is a lot. IP: Logged |
Valmu83 Knowflake Posts: 895 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 11, 2017 03:03 PM
Yes interesting I'm trying to make sense all of this here IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3710 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 11, 2017 03:06 PM
no problem. i can grasp it. IP: Logged |
Valmu83 Knowflake Posts: 895 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 15, 2017 06:18 PM
Bump..still needing helpIP: Logged |
Valmu83 Knowflake Posts: 895 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 18, 2017 09:20 AM
Im not sure how to interpret these primary directions. There seems to be lot of information about how to calculate these but not anything how to interpret. How convenient..is it possible to use Noel Tyls book about Solar arcs to this.? As it seems that solar arcs and primary directions are as a technique quite close together.I have currently Libra Jupiter directing on my Asc..and it will change to Libra Venus after a couple of years. What I should think about these?
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racole12 Knowflake Posts: 1087 From: the world is my home! Registered: Feb 2010
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posted March 18, 2017 08:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: its simple. your chart progresses at a rate of about 4.8 minutes after your birth per 1 year of life. so if you are 27, times that by 4.8 which is 130. so enter in your same birth town, but move your birth time ahead by 130 minutes (which is 2 hours and 10 minutes) and this is your primary progressed position. it's fully accurate, believe me. this is where your sun is now. kannon has said this method was disproved, by some guy. i know its not. but he can feel free to bring up any reasons why, but i know there isnt any.
If you follow this then the chart isn't really going to change except the ASC... I'm 38, and I have Mars @ 29.24 and with this method my mars is STILL not out of the sign. My Sun has only moved 8 mins. This isn't reliable unless you just want to look at the ASC or MC...
At least Solar Arcs are based off the movement of the Sun... IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 3710 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted March 18, 2017 09:46 PM
they change houses houses are signs or did you forget why you saw it in the first have you forgotten your kin IP: Logged |
Valmu83 Knowflake Posts: 895 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 18, 2017 10:35 PM
I used free software Morinus to calculate directions. Apparently it is directions to lights (sun, moon) and asc (and maybe house cusps?) that matters. But I donīt know why this method is said to be more precise than Solar arc for timing events..If I keep significators as narrow as that (sun, moon, Acs, house cusps +Mc) there is three conjunctions this year and six next year.And I repeat again the question; where to find information about how directions are interpreted? IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 2191 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted March 19, 2017 12:08 AM
Valmu83,First, there is a relationship for everyone who wants one. You are no exception. To answer any such questions, it would be better to post it in Personal Readings with your natal chart and/or birth data. Secondly, solar arc directions are not necessary to get insights into those kinds of questions. 90% of what is in solar arc charts is symbolic fiction unsupported by the movements of nature. I don't even use them. Instead, for timing matters I look at transits and secondary progressed planets against the backdrop of the birth chart. ------------------ The Declinations Guy Rising Sign Descriptions Energy Healing by request IP: Logged |