posted April 27, 2017 12:32 AM            

As a result you are very forgiving.

posted April 27, 2017 12:42 AM              

it was right after i became a vegan cold turkey, and had a progression of saturn

i didnt think it was possible to heal because every time i remembered it, it made me feel it again, like a void of my existence and scarring

it's no problem now i remember the day i was like whoa i dont feel it is a problem to me. i remember the moment i felt that. a year or so later.

posted April 27, 2017 04:12 AM            

I am exceptionally forgiving and it's very hard for me to hate and even dislike someone! I also don't hold on to memories much at all as I prefer to constantly move forward. I don't like to reminisce.

posted April 27, 2017 10:33 AM            

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Does this sound like you?

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I am very forgiving, but unfortunately, there are ways to make me hold a grudge. It's also not very difficult to make me angry. To be honest, I used to have a hard time staying in an angry mood, which prevented me from actively doing anything about my problems. However, I think this was more the result of my mental functioning than an astrological aspect.

My suspicion is that severe depression used to lower my energy to the point my anger wasn't strong enough to last. Now that I'm on an antidepressant that increases my energy level during the day, I get angry long enough to at least vent to a friend about it. If I'm mad about something serious, you can definitely expect me to be very angry for a while.

On the other hand, my memory does suck, so I don't always remember negative memories. Even my most traumatic memory is hard to recall. It's so difficult to remember it that I only remember the facts about the situation, not how the trauma itself happened. When I was younger, I remembered it very easily. It's just that with age, I've seemingly recovered from it like it never happened.

And yes, I do want to view the world as beautiful, but cruel things do happen and I'm not going to deny this in favor of viewing the world in a positive light. The emotional wounds fade over time. The memory of awful events in my personal history and in the world, however, won't just go away because with time other things became a bigger priority than the wounds of the past.

I'm not about to deny reality just to maintain an ideal image of how the world is. Although it's true that the world can be beautiful at times, it also has the ability to be equally as destructive and painful. Hideous truths tend to be exposed to anyone willing to pay attention. Granted, I won't say that the world is all bad. It's not all bad. I just take the bad with the good, because there's more to reality than either one.

posted April 27, 2017 11:28 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Cancer Mercury 11H-Sag Neptune 4H

I am exceptionally forgiving and it's very hard for me to hate and even dislike someone! I also don't hold on to memories much at all as I prefer to constantly move forward. I don't like to reminisce.

Edit: need to clarify something. I do forgive but if someone has slighted me, badly, it's equally easy for me to just go back to "Status Quo". I won't hold what's done against you, I'll just be neutral instead.

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That sounds odd that you don't like to reminisce since you have mercury in Cancer....interesting.

...with mercury in cancer and neptune in sag that looks like a inconjunction not a square right?

posted April 27, 2017 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Lerena:
[b]My Placement Information:
Mercury in Aries
Neptune Retrograde in Capricorn
Mercury square Neptune - orb of 3
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3d orb is tight I feel.

What is a serious wrong doing for you?

OK you can feel anger very strongly towards someone but then let it go and forgive. You can want to strangle someone but be able to let go of that anger after you feel it and forgive. Some people will be angry for 6 years and not forgive.

I am not talking about denying reality either, I am talking about having a natural inclination to let go of the bad memories bc you want to be happy, it doesn't mean you live in a bubble or anything close to that. It means your mind naturally wants to focus more on the beauty of the world and the good things about it and let go of the ugly about it bc you want to be happy. I choose to focus on the things I like about my partner and how much we have overcome together, if I sit there and focus on the negative all the time I will never be happy and poison the beauty there is in us.

If you hold grudges then you are not very forgiving, then you are forgiving sometimes which is not what I am talking out. Forgiving little stuff is maturity and plain common sense, forgiving the bigger stuff is the definition of been someone who is very forgiving. The thing is that people who are very forgiving I think don't enjoy holding grudges and that is why they are like that, it feels to them like a waste of their time and energy and the wrong thing to focus on. Is almost like they just want to be happy so they are practical about this stuff and let it go.

Perhaps the mercury square Neptune needs to be in a mutable sign for it to fit the description I gave.

I have a client that suspects his wife cheated on him 6 years ago with a friend of his he invited over a lot there place to eat dinner. He could tell they felt attracted to each other, she denies wholeheartedly cheating and feels super hurt and offended by the claims. He has been punishing her for 6 years over this and cheated on her a number of times since out of revenge, she has forgiving him bc he did this out of revenge and she loves him but he is still holding a huge grudge and punishing her for something he is not truly 100% sure actually happened. He has created this personal hell for both of them, they are trapped in this negative cycle bc he cannot forgive. I empathize with both them, they are both good people and clearly care for each other.

posted April 27, 2017 01:33 PM            

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What is a serious wrong doing for you?

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I am not talking about denying reality either, I am talking about having a natural inclination to let go of the bad memories bc you want to be happy

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I choose to focus on the things I like about my partner and how much we have overcome together, if I sit there and focus on the negative all the time I will never be happy and poison the beauty there is in us.

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If you hold grudges then you are not very forgiving, then you are forgiving sometimes which is not what I am talking out.

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So, most of the time, I'm definitely very forgiving. I don't have much time and energy for having a grudge against most people anyway. In fact, most of the time I don't even think about my current grudge (mainly because I can't pinpoint what the grudge is about in the first place and I've given up on ever figuring that out).

Alternatively, in contrary to what I've already said, I could be wrong and you may be right about me only being forgiving at times. If I am more unforgiving than I think, then I question how this aspect plays out for me, mostly because only being forgiving sometimes would mean the main description of this thread doesn't seem to apply to me at all even though I have the aspect in my chart. I wonder how this aspect works with cardinal signs. It's definitely worth some thought.

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I find her very forgiving, I cannot be in a relationship were someone is punishing me even if I did something wrong,

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posted April 27, 2017 01:46 PM            

Ok that sounds like someone who is very forgiving to me.

"A serious wrongdoing for me is something like cheating on a partner, committing crimes, talking about people behind their back and intentionally turning people against the person in question, etc. Basically, the heavy stuff. I won't ignore these things."

I see what you mean, you won't ignore it and I completely respect that and understand that, you shouldn't ignore it. But it sounds like you would confront the person and if they are sorry and truly change towards you then you would be able to let go of it and NOT let it drag on and be this poison in the relationship if the person shows they care and are sorry.

"I don't have this natural inclination. Granted, I'm also finding out that with each passing year, it's getting more and more difficult for me to think of past memories as being negative in the first place. Maybe it's a maturity thing to not focus on bad memories a lot. Being an adult now is giving me a lot of freedom to create more positive memories and that's drowning out the past which was a bit more negative."

That is wonderful I guess if we do adulting right it has its perks!

"I see why you think this, but in my entire life, I've only been able to hold a grudge against one person. This makes me suspect I can hold grudges, but I'm not sure what it would take for me to hold a grudge against someone as my only grudge is very complicated and I have never been able to figure out why it's there. All I know is I've been able to forgive everyone else but the single person I have a grudge on.

So, most of the time, I'm definitely very forgiving. I don't have much time and energy for having a grudge against most people anyway. In fact, most of the time I don't even think about my current grudge (mainly because I can't pinpoint what the grudge is about in the first place and I've given up on ever figuring that out)."

^^This fascinates me psychologically and astrologically, one person you do hold a grudge for yet you forgave your ex which clearly makes you a forgiving person in my book.

posted April 27, 2017 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
^^This fascinates me psychologically and astrologically, one person you do hold a grudge for yet you forgave your ex which clearly makes you a forgiving person in my book.

I would love to break this puzzle with you.

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My theory is that since I have a grudge against my brother, the issue I was dealing with at the time he was born led to me developing poor self-esteem. Since he was the newborn, he was getting a bunch of attention when I was dealing with personal health problems. The original problems have been fixed now, but my self-esteem hasn't gotten any better. This theory is based on the fact that the grudge is still there.

Granted, I have been diagnosed with severe depression, so I'm still wondering if I'm a bit off when it comes to what caused the grudge.

It's really puzzling to me, because while he can do certain things I can't, I'm starting to question if the grudge makes any sense. Maybe I'll be lucky and grow out of it by age 30.

posted April 28, 2017 02:36 AM            

I'm not the type of person who holds a grudge or anything, but there is a few people in my life I just cannot forgive, even though I wanted to.

And I would say my memory is pretty bad, but I do remember past feelings and situations very well. I think I got what you would call a "selective" memory.

Throughout my whole life, I've had trouble with focusing too much on the negative, but maybe that also has to do with other areas of my chart...

posted April 28, 2017 01:40 PM            

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[QUOTE] I'd love to get past the grudge, but I think that will involve fixing the problem that may have caused the grudge in the first place.

My theory is that since I have a grudge against my brother, the issue I was dealing with at the time he was born led to me developing poor self-esteem. Since he was the newborn, he was getting a bunch of attention when I was dealing with personal health problems. The original problems have been fixed now, but my self-esteem hasn't gotten any better. This theory is based on the fact that the grudge is still there.

Granted, I have been diagnosed with severe depression, so I'm still wondering if I'm a bit off when it comes to what caused the grudge.

It's really puzzling to me, because while he can do certain things I can't, I'm starting to question if the grudge makes any sense. Maybe I'll be lucky and grow out of it by age 30.

My poor self-esteem is a bit hard to improve on, but I'm already working on the things that seem to be making my self-esteem worse, which are me not having a job and me not doing much with my life. I'm trying to give myself more to do and I've already decided on a job to apply for. I just need training for the job first. Hopefully my self-esteem will repair itself naturally as I get older and accomplish more things.

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Ohh sweetie, I want to hug you. You needed your parents to give you attention at that point in your life more than ever but they failed you. I am sure they are good people but failed to find that balance were they gave attention to your brother while also making sure you felt your emotional needs were met fully at this time in your life when you felt so vulnerable.

It seems you felt emotionally neglected during that phase of your life. You know is unreasonable to hold a grudge against him but is easier to hate him than get mad at your parents for failing you at that time in your life, its easier to get mad at him for some reason. I feel you may be displacing the anger for your parents unto him, well something to consider and reflect on. Your inner child needs to be healed. You should write a chapter of your life narrative of that time and get all your feelings out, I think it will help you process your feelings and with the healing process.

Also every time you feel that grudge get on the Tapas acupressure pose, it will help with the healing process, I feel it pushes energy to your third eye which helps with the integration process of healing and helps release negative emotions.

posted April 28, 2017 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I'm a virgo with libra mercury square neptune exact

I'm not the type of person who holds a grudge or anything, but there is a few people in my life I just cannot forgive, even though I wanted to.

And I would say my memory is pretty bad, but I do remember past feelings and situations very well. I think I got what you would call a "selective" memory.

Throughout my whole life, I've had trouble with focusing too much on the negative, but maybe that also has to do with other areas of my chart...

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posted April 28, 2017 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Are you very forgiving? Do you have a hard time staying angry? Is it hard to hold on to negative memories.

Does this sound like you?

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As someone with Mercury square Neptune (and also 4 Scorpio/Leo squares to Mars) I'll have to say LOL NO

posted April 29, 2017 06:13 PM            

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another one with this square here...

was just thinking last night that it sorta feels like there's nothing someone could do.. for me to stop talking to them... because of two people i was messaging..even if there are reaalllly just human reasons, good reasons, not to talk to them.. but i think it's probably because of more than one issue that I have, lol forsure. i never thought of it like the way you're saying it.. i always validate it in my mind like oh they were drunk or remember that time they stood by you.. i might go silent for 6 months if other people tell me what they did was really messed up then im like ok i need to not talk to this person but i'll usually eventually reach out (probably when i should stick to my guns) if i cared about them. i actually am very forgiving... rarely cut people out of my life once they're in.. if it does happen, it was probably mutual. as for staying angry... yes sometimes even if i have a right to be p issed and it makes total sense to myself and to others that i am the one who is deeply owed an apology 2.5 secs later i'll feel bad for getting angry and reach out first...and then im annoyed that the person didn't soften at my apology or realize that im doing them a favor by saying everything first and that they stayed angry! even tho I softened. Eventually I realized most people will stay angry.. and you reaching out right away only makes them feel they were right. i used to do this a lot more as a young person than i do now...sometimes i even went back to people who betrayed me lol wtf...im the kind of person who is always there for everyone and then has no one but it's mainly because i've built up walls and deal with stuff on my own. now i don't get close to anyone. i'd rather not have mercury square neptune. seriously.. but what can you do.... never thought about the two being related before. i knew it was a rough square but i don't know what it means. =/

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*I hear you! Its not always fair to be the one to always be the bigger person but I think this aspect wants to be happy and staying angry and upset at someone feels awful so they keep seeing the good in people and forgiving them bc you like you said they have been there for us...ect...

posted September 17, 2017 09:57 AM            

I think of feelings of "escape" a lot. Breaking away, dissolving or extracting myself from existence.

As such, personal dramas are avoided(people like that too). I do have neg thoughts. But they come and go.

posted September 17, 2017 10:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Merc parallel Nep-

I think of feelings of "escape" a lot. Breaking away, dissolving or extracting myself from existence.

As such, personal dramas are avoided(people like that too). I do have neg thoughts. But they come and go.

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posted September 18, 2017 02:19 AM            

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Do you have problems in regards to staying focus when trying to learn something new? Like in regards to studying in school?

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Yes. I used to have trouble in school studying/staying focused on things that are detail orientated i.e Mathematics/Physical Science/Accounting etc. I just learned to be a parrot when it comes to them. Passed them with average symbols

But when it came to English; creative writing, poetry, reading and comprehension. I was better at these and loved them.

Ironically I studied Business Administration and work in a detail oriented environment. But am unlikely to make it past employee status as I am not interested in the more intricate aspects of my job.

posted September 18, 2017 07:37 AM            

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Yes. I used to have trouble in school studying/staying focused on things that are detail orientated i.e Mathematics/Physical Science/Accounting etc. I just learned to be a parrot when it comes to them. Passed them with average symbols

But when it came to English; creative writing, poetry, reading and comprehension. I was better at these and loved them.

Ironically I studied Business Administration and work in a detail oriented environment. But am unlikely to make it past employee status as I am not interested in the more intricate aspects of my job.

Again here, i follow procedure and do the job to tge best of my ability. But i wouldn't say it turns me on. Even when there are moments where I shine in it.

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posted September 18, 2017 08:16 AM            

But it does suggest that u will have to be creative in how you learn and retain the information.

Education at a varsity doesn't test your understanding of a subject. Just your overall knowledge.

In the workplace you will do stuff that are seemingly unrelated to what u studied . And that is where you will be tested .

In order to retain the information you learned, you will have to make it magical. Or atleast very interesting.

I used to study with music and recall theories when attached to a song. I got a B average 3rd year...71 perc. Did i understand what i studied? Not everything. Do i now? Only the essential bits.

posted September 18, 2017 10:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
No. It will not be impossible.

But it does suggest that u will have to be creative in how you learn and retain the information.

Education at a varsity doesn't test your understanding of a subject. Just your overall knowledge.

In the workplace you will do stuff that are seemingly unrelated to what u studied . And that is where you will be tested .

In order to retain the information you learned, you will have to make it magical. Or atleast very interesting.

I used to study with music and recall theories when attached to a song. I got a B average 3rd year...71 perc. Did i understand what i studied? Not everything. Do i now? Only the essential bits.

You can do it :thunbsup:

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