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lilypad18
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posted May 07, 2017 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone, wanted to open this thread to discuss about this placements.

I happen to have mars in the 4th house, and always wondered why do I feel emotions so intensely since all my chart is air, air, air, and more air (Libra sun, Aqua moon, Gem rising...)

Plus, 4th house mars explanations don't seem to be very helpful. Yea I had a really angry father, but that doesn't help me at all in dealing with the placement.

So I decided to search for cancer mars explanations and they are really accurate: BIG need for security, moody cause of intense and overwhelming emotions, etc.

So my first objective with this thread is to ask to all of you that have it, how do you deal with it in a mature way? I am tired of this placement but whenever the emotions come in, I cannot stop feeling them. and I would like to be more confrontative but I just feel it is so hard

so, here it is the post y'all cancerian mars have been waiting for lol


feel free to add ANYTHING to the post, that you think may help us all in understanding/dealing with it

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posted May 07, 2017 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snow Dragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Cancer is a weak placement. (All of us have a weak placement). It means unhealthy sexual patterns in the family.

What you do to transcend it is bring the light into whatever darkness happened because of this placement. You have to talk about the abuse with whoever abused you in your family. And you have to accept the patters are unhealthy and not your true self. Then you will evolve and transmute it.

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Choc
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posted May 07, 2017 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
It means unhealthy sexual patterns in the family.

[/quote] You have to talk about the abuse with whoever abused you in your family.[/quote]
WTF is that
where do you come with this cookbook astrology bs?

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Snow Dragon
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posted May 07, 2017 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snow Dragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Choc:
[QUOTE]It means unhealthy sexual patterns in the family.

[/quote] You have to talk about the abuse with whoever abused you in your family.[/quote]
WTF is that
where do you come with this cookbook astrology bs?
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it comes from experience not a book. what is your solution?

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lilypad18
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posted May 07, 2017 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you mean sexual abuse? sorry I wasn't sexually abused when I was little

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Snow Dragon
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posted May 07, 2017 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snow Dragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars is sexual energy. I find it hard to believe that you had a normal sexual upbringing. But as you say, nothing happened. So I will leave it at that.

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posted May 07, 2017 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it might mean you feel nurtured. if it was in 5th, you feel proud. challenged.

5th = you feel challenged inwardly, but the world doesnt actively challenge you. 4th = you feel nurtured. but the world might challenge you

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lilypad18
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posted May 07, 2017 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Snow Dragon:
Mars is sexual energy. I find it hard to believe that you had a normal sexual upbringing. But as you say, nothing happened. So I will leave it at that.

well, it may have happened something, but as far as I know, it didn't

I didn't actually seacat for more info either, so..

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lilypad18
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posted May 07, 2017 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
it might mean you feel nurtured. if it was in 5th, you feel proud. challenged.

5th = you feel challenged inwardly, but the world doesnt actively challenge you. 4th = you feel nurtured. but the world might challenge you


I don't really understand what u mean by feeling nurtured?

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posted May 07, 2017 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it means you feel and understand beauty, and by feeling that, your soul is nurtured. however you may embrace the beauty and dance, but people are going to confront you and bring you down with that placement. maybe

whereas a mars in 5th always feel challenged inwardly, when someone tries to confront them, they laugh

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posted May 07, 2017 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Snow Dragon:
it comes from experience not a book. what is your solution?



So, you've managed to gather a vast amount of people with such a placement who also happened to be survivors of abuse... RIGHT. therefore, Mars in Cancer - Effed up childhood.
Get the eff outta here.

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posted May 07, 2017 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars it the ability and need to success and be better

accomplish

so you might run down the street and try to become one with the amazement, by hitting branches because it feels alive, by spinning around, by laughing and singing, but then a guy might say what the f*** are you doing?? and start nagging at you. of course it would be another water mars. maybe. he would say i have children get the f*** out of here and it will really annoy you. but you were only acting out of your (mars) desire to be awesome and do amazing things. to feel good and accomplished

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posted May 07, 2017 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snow Dragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never once mentioned anything about 'childhood' abuse. I said there was unhealthy sexual patterns in the family. That can manifest in a number of ways. And since she has Sun square Mars in Cancer, it has to do with the father.

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posted May 07, 2017 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
it means you feel and understand beauty, and by feeling that, your soul is nurtured. however you may embrace the beauty and dance, but people are going to confront you and bring you down with that placement. maybe

whereas a mars in 5th always feel challenged inwardly, when someone tries to confront them, they laugh


ohhhhhhh well I could actually really relate to what you say there

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lilypad18
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posted May 07, 2017 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Snow Dragon:
I never once mentioned anything about 'childhood' abuse. I said there was unhealthy sexual patterns in the family. That can manifest in a number of ways. And since she has Sun square Mars in Cancer, it has to do with the father.

my mars is in my 4th house, not in Cancer. It is actually in Leo's sign, with a sextile to my Sun

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posted May 07, 2017 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
mars it the ability and need to success and be better

accomplish

so you might run down the street and try to become one with the amazement, by hitting branches because it feels alive, by spinning around, by laughing and singing, but then a guy might say what the f*** are you doing?? and start nagging at you. of course it would be another water mars. maybe. he would say i have children get the f*** out of here and it will really annoy you. but you were only acting out of your (mars) desire to be awesome and do amazing things. to feel good and accomplished


lol yeah I could see that definitely

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posted May 07, 2017 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
6th House Cancer Mars.

I was never abused in anyway.
But its probable because my IC is in Taurus so I have a nice family background.

@lilypad18

Its probable different because I'm male, but
I don't much interest in relationships.

I try to put more focus on work and improving myself instead.

Its sorta like entering a university library.

The BA and arts majors are socializing..maybe organizing another protest.

The Med students think there better then everyone else.

And..the Math and Engineering students either work independently or in small groups of less then 3-4 people away from the rest, possibly working on something brilliant.

I'm sorta like the math and Engineering students.

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Capricorn Rising
Aries Moon
Gemini Mercury
Venus Taurus
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posted May 07, 2017 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilypad18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
6th House Cancer Mars.

I was never abused in anyway.
But its probable because my IC is in Taurus so I have a nice family background.

@lilypad18

Its probable different because I'm male, but
I don't much interest in relationships.

I try to put more focus on work and improving myself instead.

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Gemini Sun,
Capricorn Rising
Aries Moon
Gemini Mercury
Venus Taurus
Mars Cancer


I was mostly asking about how u guys deal with emotional bursts, since they feel so overwhelming

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posted May 07, 2017 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when it was happening to someone bursting onto them, they felt like the world might really end

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posted May 07, 2017 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snow Dragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
6th House Cancer Mars.

I was never abused in anyway.
But its probable because my IC is in Taurus so I have a nice family background.

@lilypad18

Its probable different because I'm male, but
I don't much interest in relationships.

I try to put more focus on work and improving myself instead.

Its sorta like entering a university library.

The BA and arts majors are socializing..maybe organizing another protest.

The Med students think there better then everyone else.

And..the Math and Engineering students either work independently or in small groups of less then 3-4 people away from the rest, possibly working on something brilliant.

I'm sorta like the math and Engineering students.

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Gemini Sun,
Capricorn Rising
Aries Moon
Gemini Mercury
Venus Taurus
Mars Cancer


So you have an Aries Moon square Mars in Cancer and you were never abused in anyway from your mother?

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posted May 07, 2017 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@lillypad

Sorry for the miscommunication.
I see what your question is.

It doesn't help too that my Aries moon is square my Cancer mars.

For me its all about environment, I use to have very sudden outbursts. Just didn't like the environment and the people.

But I've recently moved to a more favorable place.

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posted May 07, 2017 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Snow Dragon:
So you have an Aries Moon square Mars in Cancer and you were never abused in anyway from your mother?

Depends on what the definition of abuse is.

She can be controlling, in the sense of "I know whats best..and thats what you should do" she meant well thought.

Plus she's a Venus Cancer and its conjunct my mars. Are Moons are both Aries and they also conjunct.

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posted May 07, 2017 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think the moon = the > lesser of 2 big things. i think it applies to group situations of 2. your more bigger or more focused friend that you pay attention to represents your sun. the smaller non important friend represents the moon, and you attach your emotions to them. you attach your vitality to the bigger one.

this likely applies to other areas, on a walk. the trail might be the moon. the things you are more far in the distance, the sun.

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posted May 07, 2017 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in 4th relates to a martial(Mars) upbringing(4th)

Anger is usually the subconscious "go to" point for these folks. As the 4th house is the environment we were brought up under and what feels like "home".

So despite whatever labels society may give to anger, aggression and assertiveness. If you have Mars in 4th, anger/assertiveness will be something that feels very natural/familiar and home to you.

The question now becomes "how" this energy is expressed? Yes the energy is geared towards emotional security. But the other planetary aspects as well as sign placement may shed more light on the method of execution.

What sign is your Mars in?

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posted May 08, 2017 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Mars in 4th relates to a martial(Mars) upbringing(4th)

Anger is usually the subconscious "go to" point for these folks. As the 4th house is the environment we were brought up under and what feels like "home".

So despite whatever labels society may give to anger, aggression and assertiveness. If you have Mars in 4th, anger/assertiveness will be something that feels very natural/familiar and home to you.

The question now becomes "how" this energy is expressed? Yes the energy is geared towards emotional security. But the other planetary aspects as well as sign placement may shed more light on the method of execution.

What sign is your Mars in?


I have Cap Mars in the 4th (Neptune also) and I can totally relate to this. There were arguments every. single. day. in my house. It was my mother though, who deals with her own emotional issues (fueled by alcohol) who was the source of most of the angst. My father was always the solid and tolerant voice of reason until he was pushed to his limit. I seldom saw his temper but he definitely had one when necessary.

As a result, I would say I am better equipped to weather the storms with my partner and although upset, bounce back much quicker from a disagreement as on some level I see this is "normal" where others may not.

I would also tend to agree that being in the 4th it gives my Cap Mars a Cancerian spin, as I find myself more emotional than the average bear (but I'm also drowning in watery placements, so...).

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