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Topic: mars in cancer/ mars in 4th
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lilypad18 Knowflake Posts: 4210 From: the Empress's garden Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 07, 2017 05:37 PM
Hi everyone, wanted to open this thread to discuss about this placements.I happen to have mars in the 4th house, and always wondered why do I feel emotions so intensely since all my chart is air, air, air, and more air (Libra sun, Aqua moon, Gem rising...) Plus, 4th house mars explanations don't seem to be very helpful. Yea I had a really angry father, but that doesn't help me at all in dealing with the placement. So I decided to search for cancer mars explanations and they are really accurate: BIG need for security, moody cause of intense and overwhelming emotions, etc. So my first objective with this thread is to ask to all of you that have it, how do you deal with it in a mature way? I am tired of this placement but whenever the emotions come in, I cannot stop feeling them. and I would like to be more confrontative but I just feel it is so hard so, here it is the post y'all cancerian mars have been waiting for lol feel free to add ANYTHING to the post, that you think may help us all in understanding/dealing with it
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Snow Dragon Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 07, 2017 05:56 PM
Mars in Cancer is a weak placement. (All of us have a weak placement). It means unhealthy sexual patterns in the family.What you do to transcend it is bring the light into whatever darkness happened because of this placement. You have to talk about the abuse with whoever abused you in your family. And you have to accept the patters are unhealthy and not your true self. Then you will evolve and transmute it. IP: Logged |
Choc Knowflake Posts: 589 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 07, 2017 06:00 PM
quote: It means unhealthy sexual patterns in the family.
[/quote] You have to talk about the abuse with whoever abused you in your family.[/quote] WTF is that where do you come with this cookbook astrology bs?IP: Logged |
Snow Dragon Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 07, 2017 06:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Choc: [QUOTE]It means unhealthy sexual patterns in the family.
[/quote] You have to talk about the abuse with whoever abused you in your family.[/quote] WTF is that where do you come with this cookbook astrology bs?[/QUOTE]it comes from experience not a book. what is your solution? IP: Logged |
lilypad18 Knowflake Posts: 4210 From: the Empress's garden Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 07, 2017 06:08 PM
you mean sexual abuse? sorry I wasn't sexually abused when I was littleIP: Logged |
Snow Dragon Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 07, 2017 06:11 PM
Mars is sexual energy. I find it hard to believe that you had a normal sexual upbringing. But as you say, nothing happened. So I will leave it at that. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 4025 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 07, 2017 06:25 PM
it might mean you feel nurtured. if it was in 5th, you feel proud. challenged. 5th = you feel challenged inwardly, but the world doesnt actively challenge you. 4th = you feel nurtured. but the world might challenge you IP: Logged |
lilypad18 Knowflake Posts: 4210 From: the Empress's garden Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 07, 2017 06:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Snow Dragon: Mars is sexual energy. I find it hard to believe that you had a normal sexual upbringing. But as you say, nothing happened. So I will leave it at that.
well, it may have happened something, but as far as I know, it didn't I didn't actually seacat for more info either, so.. IP: Logged |
lilypad18 Knowflake Posts: 4210 From: the Empress's garden Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 07, 2017 06:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: it might mean you feel nurtured. if it was in 5th, you feel proud. challenged. 5th = you feel challenged inwardly, but the world doesnt actively challenge you. 4th = you feel nurtured. but the world might challenge you
I don't really understand what u mean by feeling nurtured? IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 4025 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 07, 2017 06:30 PM
it means you feel and understand beauty, and by feeling that, your soul is nurtured. however you may embrace the beauty and dance, but people are going to confront you and bring you down with that placement. maybewhereas a mars in 5th always feel challenged inwardly, when someone tries to confront them, they laugh IP: Logged |
Choc Knowflake Posts: 589 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 07, 2017 06:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Snow Dragon: it comes from experience not a book. what is your solution?
So, you've managed to gather a vast amount of people with such a placement who also happened to be survivors of abuse... RIGHT. therefore, Mars in Cancer - Effed up childhood. Get the eff outta here.IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 4025 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 07, 2017 06:34 PM
mars it the ability and need to success and be betteraccomplish so you might run down the street and try to become one with the amazement, by hitting branches because it feels alive, by spinning around, by laughing and singing, but then a guy might say what the f*** are you doing?? and start nagging at you. of course it would be another water mars. maybe. he would say i have children get the f*** out of here and it will really annoy you. but you were only acting out of your (mars) desire to be awesome and do amazing things. to feel good and accomplished IP: Logged |
Snow Dragon Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 07, 2017 06:35 PM
I never once mentioned anything about 'childhood' abuse. I said there was unhealthy sexual patterns in the family. That can manifest in a number of ways. And since she has Sun square Mars in Cancer, it has to do with the father.IP: Logged |
lilypad18 Knowflake Posts: 4210 From: the Empress's garden Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 07, 2017 06:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: it means you feel and understand beauty, and by feeling that, your soul is nurtured. however you may embrace the beauty and dance, but people are going to confront you and bring you down with that placement. maybewhereas a mars in 5th always feel challenged inwardly, when someone tries to confront them, they laugh
ohhhhhhh well I could actually really relate to what you say there IP: Logged |
lilypad18 Knowflake Posts: 4210 From: the Empress's garden Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 07, 2017 06:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Snow Dragon: I never once mentioned anything about 'childhood' abuse. I said there was unhealthy sexual patterns in the family. That can manifest in a number of ways. And since she has Sun square Mars in Cancer, it has to do with the father.
my mars is in my 4th house, not in Cancer. It is actually in Leo's sign, with a sextile to my Sun IP: Logged |
lilypad18 Knowflake Posts: 4210 From: the Empress's garden Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 07, 2017 06:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: mars it the ability and need to success and be betteraccomplish so you might run down the street and try to become one with the amazement, by hitting branches because it feels alive, by spinning around, by laughing and singing, but then a guy might say what the f*** are you doing?? and start nagging at you. of course it would be another water mars. maybe. he would say i have children get the f*** out of here and it will really annoy you. but you were only acting out of your (mars) desire to be awesome and do amazing things. to feel good and accomplished
lol yeah I could see that definitely IP: Logged |
DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 264 From: Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted May 07, 2017 06:40 PM
6th House Cancer Mars.I was never abused in anyway. But its probable because my IC is in Taurus so I have a nice family background. @lilypad18 Its probable different because I'm male, but I don't much interest in relationships. I try to put more focus on work and improving myself instead. Its sorta like entering a university library. The BA and arts majors are socializing..maybe organizing another protest. The Med students think there better then everyone else. And..the Math and Engineering students either work independently or in small groups of less then 3-4 people away from the rest, possibly working on something brilliant. I'm sorta like the math and Engineering students. ==================================== Gemini Sun, Capricorn Rising Aries Moon Gemini Mercury Venus Taurus Mars Cancer IP: Logged |
lilypad18 Knowflake Posts: 4210 From: the Empress's garden Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 07, 2017 06:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by DualGemV2: 6th House Cancer Mars.I was never abused in anyway. But its probable because my IC is in Taurus so I have a nice family background. @lilypad18 Its probable different because I'm male, but I don't much interest in relationships. I try to put more focus on work and improving myself instead. ==================================== Gemini Sun, Capricorn Rising Aries Moon Gemini Mercury Venus Taurus Mars Cancer
I was mostly asking about how u guys deal with emotional bursts, since they feel so overwhelming IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 4025 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 07, 2017 06:45 PM
when it was happening to someone bursting onto them, they felt like the world might really end IP: Logged |
Snow Dragon Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 07, 2017 06:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by DualGemV2: 6th House Cancer Mars.I was never abused in anyway. But its probable because my IC is in Taurus so I have a nice family background. @lilypad18 Its probable different because I'm male, but I don't much interest in relationships. I try to put more focus on work and improving myself instead. Its sorta like entering a university library. The BA and arts majors are socializing..maybe organizing another protest. The Med students think there better then everyone else. And..the Math and Engineering students either work independently or in small groups of less then 3-4 people away from the rest, possibly working on something brilliant. I'm sorta like the math and Engineering students. ==================================== Gemini Sun, Capricorn Rising Aries Moon Gemini Mercury Venus Taurus Mars Cancer
So you have an Aries Moon square Mars in Cancer and you were never abused in anyway from your mother? IP: Logged |
DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 264 From: Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted May 07, 2017 06:48 PM
@lillypadSorry for the miscommunication. I see what your question is. It doesn't help too that my Aries moon is square my Cancer mars. For me its all about environment, I use to have very sudden outbursts. Just didn't like the environment and the people. But I've recently moved to a more favorable place. ==================================== Gemini Sun, Capricorn Rising Aries Moon Gemini Mercury Venus Taurus Mars Cancer IP: Logged |
DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 264 From: Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted May 07, 2017 06:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Snow Dragon: So you have an Aries Moon square Mars in Cancer and you were never abused in anyway from your mother?
Depends on what the definition of abuse is. She can be controlling, in the sense of "I know whats best..and thats what you should do" she meant well thought. Plus she's a Venus Cancer and its conjunct my mars. Are Moons are both Aries and they also conjunct. ==================================== Gemini Sun, Capricorn Rising Aries Moon Gemini Mercury Venus Taurus Mars Cancer IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 4025 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 07, 2017 06:55 PM
i think the moon = the > lesser of 2 big things. i think it applies to group situations of 2. your more bigger or more focused friend that you pay attention to represents your sun. the smaller non important friend represents the moon, and you attach your emotions to them. you attach your vitality to the bigger one. this likely applies to other areas, on a walk. the trail might be the moon. the things you are more far in the distance, the sun. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 4077 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 07, 2017 11:58 PM
Mars in 4th relates to a martial(Mars) upbringing(4th)Anger is usually the subconscious "go to" point for these folks. As the 4th house is the environment we were brought up under and what feels like "home". So despite whatever labels society may give to anger, aggression and assertiveness. If you have Mars in 4th, anger/assertiveness will be something that feels very natural/familiar and home to you. The question now becomes "how" this energy is expressed? Yes the energy is geared towards emotional security. But the other planetary aspects as well as sign placement may shed more light on the method of execution. What sign is your Mars in? IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 910 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted May 08, 2017 11:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Mars in 4th relates to a martial(Mars) upbringing(4th)Anger is usually the subconscious "go to" point for these folks. As the 4th house is the environment we were brought up under and what feels like "home". So despite whatever labels society may give to anger, aggression and assertiveness. If you have Mars in 4th, anger/assertiveness will be something that feels very natural/familiar and home to you. The question now becomes "how" this energy is expressed? Yes the energy is geared towards emotional security. But the other planetary aspects as well as sign placement may shed more light on the method of execution. What sign is your Mars in?
I have Cap Mars in the 4th (Neptune also) and I can totally relate to this. There were arguments every. single. day. in my house. It was my mother though, who deals with her own emotional issues (fueled by alcohol) who was the source of most of the angst. My father was always the solid and tolerant voice of reason until he was pushed to his limit. I seldom saw his temper but he definitely had one when necessary. As a result, I would say I am better equipped to weather the storms with my partner and although upset, bounce back much quicker from a disagreement as on some level I see this is "normal" where others may not. I would also tend to agree that being in the 4th it gives my Cap Mars a Cancerian spin, as I find myself more emotional than the average bear (but I'm also drowning in watery placements, so...).
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