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HappyNinja
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posted May 26, 2017 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HappyNinja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't watch the news anymore and restrict social media use to positive/uplifting content only.

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posted May 29, 2017 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Good idea.

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posted June 02, 2017 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wish I were as strong.

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posted June 02, 2017 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm an INFP. So I get where you're coming from, polkadotstars.

I know some of you who know Meyers-Briggs may be surprised at the 'P' for perceiving (instead of 'J' for judging), but that's the real me.

I have had to push away 90% of news lately and flush most of the political and newsy stuff out of my fb feed. Portland is my home city and I love it. It is hard to believe those two people were killed right here just a couple miles from where my wife and I live. I'm familiar with the 21-year-old who responded to protect the victims and was himself put in the hospital for it. He's a fellow poet and a good one (Micah David-Cole Fletcher).

What I do is keep such things only on the edge of my awareness. I am having to get back to a truly effective meditation practice so that I can remain steady, grounded, and clear within myself. I take time to write nearly every morning before I turn on the phone and pc.

I've got a new rhythm that works for me that keeps me writing poetry, meditating often, and appreciating the little things.

But sooner or later you have to drain out and not absorb other people's pain. That is not your role. I had to learn when I started doing energy healings. At first I was just wiped out from others' disease energy and negativity. I can't explain how I was able to stop absorbing, but it came after a friend and fellow healer said to me that there is a difference between empathy and compassion. Empathy absorbs, takes on other people's stuff. Compassion accepts them as they go through it.

Truth. Somehow it worked for me.

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posted June 02, 2017 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And humor.

I've learned to twist almost anything into humor. Even dark humor.

It could sound jaded to some, but it's a way of staying sane.

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posted June 03, 2017 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearGills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
Calling all the sensitive people out there- How do you deal with the world today with all the crime, hatred, terrorism, bigotry, etc.

I'm a Pisces sun/moon and an INFJ (Myers Briggs). Both are known for being very sensitive and empathetic to others.

My boyfriend said that the world would be a better place if more people were as sensitive as I am about these topics. He said it's hard for people to register with something if it's so far away from them. But for me, it really gets to me deep down.

I cry and I internalize and I feel terrible for the families of victims of terrorism (or any crime). I feel angry for people who are victims of a racial attack. I feel such overwhelming emotion for anyone who is treated unfairly. However, at the same time, I also feel sadness for those who have such hatred in their heart to commit these acts.

I don't like watching the news because I find it too overwhelming. How do you deal with it?


I'm the same way so I can relate! I also have a Pisces in Moon. I feel so bad whenever I'm watching the news to see bad stuff or anything like that. I don't get why there are people that commit acts like that but I guess that's just the way the world works, I suppose. I try to ignore the news as most of the time it's too negative for me to even try to watch.

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posted June 04, 2017 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the increase in terrorists acts and racist fueled hatred, I'm having to ignore so much. I was driving yesterday and saw blood all over the road, so much blood. and I looked and saw that it was from a deer that got hit. I prayed for his soul, and I cried for him, and his family who wouldn't see him again. I was looking at the other cars who were behind me and the drivers didn't seem phased. For me, it was very upsetting.

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posted June 05, 2017 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
polkadotstars, you have a high level of sensitivity and so long as you can maintain a spiritually-minded perspective as you just described, then it can be a good thing.

It helps to have the perspective that death is part of life, changing only its forms.

What I find most difficult is not death itself or life's disappointments, but hatefulness or cruelty by humans towards each other or other living beings. But then I'm reminded that I have also had my own moments of hatefulness, whether expressed outwardly or kept secretly inside. So my responsibility and prime awareness is over that -- what I carry inside my own heart.

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posted June 05, 2017 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As to some of the ugly and hateful things that have flared up in recent years and weeks, it is something of a purging of humanity - slowly. We are seeing the ugliness that has been kept inside people for a long time be ripened to the surface -- like a pimple -- so that we can deal with it by being forced into a choice away from it.

Astrologically, this is part of the Aquarian age in which secrets cannot be kept as in the age of Pisces. Things are externalized into the social world rather than kept under wraps and veiled by the smoke and mirrors of various false justifications.

So it is not that there is more of this ugliness than there was before, but it is being revealed more. Change agitates many into vomiting their ugliness outwardly due to fear, rather than changing.

The Uranian principle is one of revelation, as opposed to the Neptunian one of faith in the face of mystery. We have entered a new age of personal responsibility to leave behind the hypocrisies of the old one in which religious and moral principles were followed only very selectively or inconsistently.

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posted June 06, 2017 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Kannon.

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posted June 07, 2017 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
Calling all the sensitive people out there- How do you deal with the world today with all the crime, hatred, terrorism, bigotry, etc.

I'm a Pisces sun/moon and an INFJ (Myers Briggs). Both are known for being very sensitive and empathetic to others.

My boyfriend said that the world would be a better place if more people were as sensitive as I am about these topics. He said it's hard for people to register with something if it's so far away from them. But for me, it really gets to me deep down.

I cry and I internalize and I feel terrible for the families of victims of terrorism (or any crime). I feel angry for people who are victims of a racial attack. I feel such overwhelming emotion for anyone who is treated unfairly. However, at the same time, I also feel sadness for those who have such hatred in their heart to commit these acts.

I don't like watching the news because I find it too overwhelming. How do you deal with it?


Escapism

What annoys me, is how people I talk to just don't seem to understand. I'm an Idealist, and when people say how great things are, I tell them they could be better, and I get that look of polite confusion. Like they cannot conceive of something they have not experienced.

"It's great, all these countries are getting more aid then they ever have!"

"Yes, that's true, but what if we took just $1 billion dollars, split from from the richest 20 people in the world, and used it to solve the food crisis?"

"We could argue points here, but the top 10 richest have a combined fortune of somewhere around $6.5 trillion dollars. **** me what we could solve in the world with only $1 trillion dollars."

Blank look of non-understanding.

I just accept that the world is a beautiful place, with terrible ****** people in it, and that they ruin it for the rest of us.

If you looked at a beautiful painting that took up an entire wall in an art gallery, but there was a small piece of **** smeared in the middle. I'm pretty sure all people would talk about is the **** , and not the rest of the beautiful painting.

You're not alone, in the way you think and feel. That's the main thing.

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posted January 18, 2021 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 18, 2021 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm trying to make my heart of stone and nerves of steel to keep away from those things in life. Still I think I'm a sensitive person. Damn I failed... 😣😣

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posted January 18, 2021 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I m sensitive as well but for some reason I don't get that affected by the news and tragic stories from strangers. What I mean is it doesn't make me cry (and I'm a Pisces stellium with a Cancer moon). The news do annoy me sometimes though, especially when I sense an agenda and I feel they are being biased which they are when it comes to certain topics.
It's a difference if I know and like the person in question, if they are going through something difficult of course. Then yeah, I definitely empathize with them. But strangers? No.
But anyway, I think turning off the news for someone like OP would be a good start. I love spending time in nature, it's always rejuvenating to me and I do like to workout. Spending time alone is also very important.

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posted January 18, 2021 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chanterelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I'm an INFP. So I get where you're coming from, polkadotstars.

But sooner or later you have to drain out and not absorb other people's pain. That is not your role. I had to learn when I started doing energy healings. At first I was just wiped out from others' disease energy and negativity. I can't explain how I was able to stop absorbing, but it came after a friend and fellow healer said to me that there is a difference between empathy and compassion. Empathy absorbs, takes on other people's stuff. Compassion accepts them as they go through it.

Truth. Somehow it worked for me.


This I will remember. 🙏🏽
*Edit: I sure hope someone can appreciate the irony of this. This quote really struck me because I’ve tried a number of times to have a conversation about empathy vs. compassion with my ex, who pretty much dismissed it as pseudo-intellectual semantic bull. I sent him this quote, and would up in an intense discussion that has left me with a splitting headache and no appetite all day. Clearly I need to work on this. The weird thing is, I actually feel like I used to be better at compassion, but it’s like this particular person almost demands empathy instead— not satisfied with acknowledgment and acceptance, doesn’t think it’s ‘real’ somehow unless the other person actually feels what he’s feeling. (I know that he picks up on other people’s emotions very strongly as well, and doesn’t seem to have developed any good coping mechanisms, but doesn’t seem to feel that it’s a problem worth addressing.)

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Im a Pisces as well, and INFP. I used to be a lot like this when I was younger, I would dwell and dwell on sad or tragic things. I would think a lot at night. I used to feel like I didn't deserve to be happy when I know someone else is suffering, but as I got older I have found myself now disassociated with reality. Maybe it's my medication? or maybe my experiences up til now has changed me for the worst.

My situation is probably a bit different from what you guys are saying, but due to my mental illness I have find I worry about myself doing anything bad even if I know I won't, its an endless cycle. I completely avoid the news.

I dislike the world, at times I just want to disappear. A lot actually. I want my own world like Alice in Wonderland where everything is happy and how I wish it to be.

So what has helped me? Music basically. Without music I wouldn't be able to escape and I think I would be unhappy.
Ive been a daydreamer since I child so it came naturally for me to not really have my feet planted on the ground, and rather not really sink things in because my mechanism is to go in daydream land! Sometimes I want to get away from myself but that's never possible. I don't like thinking about all those horrible things, but unfortunately my mind is corrupted with it already and I only wish I could erase the things Ive heard or know about now.

For me what I told myself is I would actively help those in need that I meet. I don't want to live selfishly, because that kind of life feels quite dreadful. When you help others it also helps you! I feel so good when I do something for someone. So I figure why not I try to do what I can to help someone suffering? I love animals, so in the future once I get more independence and my career started I want to help out animals as much as I can. I might even become a kindergarten teacher. I hope it works out for me and Im capable. Not sure if I am.

But how I see it is if you actively reach out your hand you can make a difference, even if it's just one person you make a difference to.

Buuut Im not the best person to give advice because like I mentioned, Im a bit dissaciated with reality these days. I don't know what's real or not. I don't even know if Im alive, life is pretty scary when you think about it. I feel like Im living life in a haze. Ugh I sound crazy when I read this out loud lol

But I'd rather feel than have to live life in a haze. So I wouldn't consider it a bad thing at all, I mean after all even though it may hurt if you evolve yourself enough you can use that sensitivity for so many amazing things.

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posted January 20, 2021 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chanterelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Music is very good advice.

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posted January 21, 2021 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I withdraw in solitude and think that it's not my fault. People will do many things day by day and I can't start a vendetta against it and it's not on me the consequences that come because of the things they do.
I feel more pain from animal abuse than a human abuse. But still, the latter hurts me too, when I think about it and how some people can be so evil. I don't look up or search it to know what happens, but it gets to me through facebook or friends or at work, it drains me and I feel so sad. That's when I remember the reality of the world and that many bad things happen day by day.

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posted January 23, 2021 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I try to avoid places like the News Channel, Facebook and Instagram. It brings me to tears seeing helpless people or animals, how there are wars and other things happening in the world.

And avoid those who are into talking about these things.

I feel helpless. I am only one person

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posted January 23, 2021 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For self, I have to remind myself that generally there are plans, and that generally most (though not all) suffering serves a deeper purpose. (I do however believe there is a certain amount of chaos and accidents that can happen, due to the nature of freewill. Both we and others can go off those plans. Not even the Source, nor the Co-Creator of this Universe, always knows what a Soul will choose ahead of time).

That deeper purpose though is not one size fits all. There are various variables. It can range from everything from meeting karma, to catalyzing growth in self, catalyzing growth in others (such as little kids developing cancer and it deeply affecting their family or society), etc.

When I was younger, I was completely, and I mean, COMPLETELY wide open to it ALL. Even as a 4 year old, I was very aware of the nature of the world and the degree of suffering in it, as I could feel it, it was like a constant, heavy weight. And I could feel it in all the people around me too. Partly because of this both feeling and intellectual awareness, I was a very odd and intense young kid. Most of the adults in my life, either then or later said I was like a little old man in a child's body. My significantly older cousin that use to babysit my brother and I when were around 7, literally nicknamed me "old man".

Around 4, my parents started to ask me, "what do you want to be when you grow up" and this opened up a can of persistent worms, because I started to insistently tell them that I wanted to and would be, a "doctor" to everyone, and that I would always be there for anyone who needed someone. I was literally empathy and universal love personified at this time (as I grew older, I had to damp down a lot of this awareness to just be in this world, though I'm trying to slowly but surely reopen up as I gain inner strength, balance, and centeredness).

I didn't want to be a literal doctor, but it was the only thing in my 4 year old vocab that came close to alleviating others suffering in an unconditional and universal way. I remember once in awhile hearing about this Satan guy, and I felt deeply, deeply sad and bad for him, and I thought, "maybe he just needs a hug and some love, maybe he will change?" I guess I wanted to retrieve him.

My dad is a musician, and we would have these deep talks about the need for more universal love and care/concern for others in the world, he was deeply moved and wrote a song about it called Dr. Everywhere. This is a friend and I performing it: http://youtu.be/mg43X3A3sZI
(I'm lucky to have a lot of combo musician/artist friends).

Anyways, one of the hardest lessons that I have had to learn, and I feel has been part of moving more into my Capricorn Sun and Virgo North Node patterns, is that of the necessity/need for "tough love" at times. This didn't come easy to me. My first experience of it was in grade school. For example, on our school bus, there was this scrawny, typically nerdy looking kid that was constantly bullied on the bus. One kid in particular would give him bad wedgies and many of the other kids would laugh.

I didn't find it funny at all. It really p!ssed me off, and finally I said, enough is enough. I decided to put some ever loving fear of something into that bully kid and told him that if he ever bothered him again, there would be severe consequences and I made that very clear with very strong body language (held him by his throat up against the school bus wall/window. Though I was/am shorter than average, I was unnaturally strong as a child. Leo Rising with Cap Sun trine Mars Jupiter conjunction and square Pluto. [Interestingly, a kid born the same day/month/year as me in that town, won the state wrestler championship more than once in highschool.] The look of abject fear in his eyes was something, and I ALMOST felt bad for him. Anyways, never did or had to do anything to him again, as at least on the bus, he never bothered that kid again. I had did this after the kid who was being bullied had gotten off the bus, so he likely never knew I had anything to do with the change [unless someone from that bus had told him, but I never saw any of the kids talk to him]. Tough love is sometimes needed and works).

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I posted here before, but what do you do when you pass an extremely long line of cars, waiting for food from a food bank? Or when four of your friends lose someone they love (family member or boyfriend/love of their lives), within a week or two? Three friends of mine lost someone they loved, in the space of a week. A fourth friend lost her mum, right around the same time that I saw the line for the food bank. When you're aware of your friends getting sick with the virus that caused a pandemic, and several who have lost people they love to it.

I have been leaving my phone in a separate room to charge, instead of plugging it in next to me. Paying enough attention to the news, to know what's going on, but not watching it all the time.

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posted January 23, 2021 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you do?

When you realize that for most individuals, death is a welcome release from this very slow vibratory level to much faster vibratory and more joyous levels, then you don't feel bad at all for the individuals whose bodies died, but only for those who are grieving their loss. And yet, is it really a loss, when those individuals are still very much alive, and they will all be reunited in the relatively near future? It is just a temporary move apart for a bit, in the grand scheme of things.

When I went to my grandfather's funeral the June before last, I heard him talk to me telepathically with a definite sense of humor and he stated how silly all this grief was and that he was having the time of his life. My grandfather was a bit of a father figure to me to some extent, though we had an at times difficult/challenging relationship. He wasn't very high on felt empathy, and was very hard headed and a bit hot tempered. He was born in the early 30's and came out of the depression era, and things were somewhat black and white to him--pull yourself up by your bootstraps, make money, be responsible, and you'll be "happy".

Though he kicked me out of his house, though I was paying rent to live there and being, or trying to fairly respectful (I didn't understand why I couldn't eat a bowl of cereal in my room since I was paying rent and also shared a room with my younger brother, for example), and his daughter/my mom had died not long before and he knew I had no place to go, later on after I moved out, I extended olive branches to them and ended up keeping more in touch with them than any of the grandkids, though I was the only grandchild to move out of the state (far away speaking) and I was the least favored growing up.

Anyways, my grandfather was a bit of joker, wise arse, and story teller type. Sag Sun, Leo Rising, Leo Mars in 1st, and Virgo Moon. Apparently that only increased when he dropped the body, as I could really feel a sense of mirth, excitement, and joy from him. He was a bit worried about my grandma and what would happen with her, but otherwise, everything was fine and jolly with him. We both cracked jokes with each other at his funeral. One of the things I admired about him while he was focused in physical, was his ability to go up to anyone and strike up a conversation.

Death really isn't a big deal objectively speaking. It sucks to miss someone that you were very close to, but again, it is a very temporary, only seeming separation. If one worked on opening themselves up, they could communicate more directly with their loved ones in other dimensions.

I feel much more bad for the people lining up at food banks etc, especially those with children. It's also ultimately temporary too, but the suffering goes deeper than the belly. It's kind of an all level suffering, a real ego blow to many people.

And it makes me rather angry that its completely avoidable, but is happening because of the corrupt and self serving policies of those least fit to lead, and who work far more for the plutocrats than for the common people. Death on the other hand, while avoidable, is rather hard for most humans to avoid in this current cycle. It takes tremendous dedication, discipline, and focus to facilitate all the conditions to not appreciably age and become dis-eased.

But the economy and the state of things, is not as beyond human control as death, and it's largely super wealthy, super materially powerful, empathy lacking aholes that make it worse for everyone to make it better for themselves. These are the types of people that I would like to grab by the throat and shove up against the bus wall/window and put the fear of something into them.

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posted January 23, 2021 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a nice song, GCE.

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posted January 23, 2021 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Chryssa. I'll relay that to my dad next time I talk to him.

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posted January 23, 2021 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm saying that you can't escape it, when it's in your world, and not in the news. I'm not going to shut off social media and tell my friends that their grief is inconvenient for me.

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