posted June 04, 2017 07:17 AM            

So the topic is...
I know that we can predict what relationship potential a person can have looking at their natal chart. Is it right?

What houses\aspects we should analyze?
Any other indicators besides 7th house?
Mine is in Aqua, so it means I tend to have partners who value freedom and independent in some way. But it doesn't show the full picture. We can't say what impact it will have on me or will my partners treat me well.

For example, what does it mean when all relationships that someone has are abusive or partner is unfaithful or they are unhappy in any romantic relationship they've had.
What indicates this situation?
Could it be changed?
Or vice versa, what indicates that person can be happy in love? Which natal chart characteristics a person has to have?

I would like to hear from your experience and your knowledge, how to analyze someone's chart whether they can be happy in love or what kind of relationship they could have. Stable\unstable\passionate\quiet\friends-like etc.

Also, I would like to hear your stories
Do you have something in common between all romantic relationships you've had?
What is its dynamics, what do you value in relationship (what do you really need?) and what aspects in your natal chart indicate such relationship nature in your opinion?

Thank you and have a good day

posted June 04, 2017 08:36 AM            

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posted June 04, 2017 11:21 AM            

Imo Neptune/Pluto/Uranus/Saturn and Mars to Sun/Moon/Venus, Dsc/Asc, Mc/Ic and 5th all have their respective challenges to facing up to issues of intimacy.

In my case for instance, Moon/Mars square is very touchy and irritable.

Mars on the Ac/Ic detracts me from coupling.

Uranus in 8th brings disruptions to intimacy . Whilst Moon conjunct 4th, Uranus/Neptune contra-parallel Ic can be changeable emotionally.

Venus/Mars midpoint =Pluto. I do get that i am passionate. But am more suspicious and on/off in love. I am not a consistent lover.

Does this mean i will never marry? Perhaps not comfortably as Juno opp Dsc and Pluto.

posted June 04, 2017 12:04 PM            

Do you have something in common between all romantic relationships you've had?
All my exes have something in common: they would stop talking to me after a while and the relationship would come to an end. Three of my exes have cheated on me, two partners dumped me without being upfront about it, and all my exes didn't spend enough time with me. The pattern of limited communication and being neglected drove me to thinking that I was doing something wrong and maybe I was, because I used to date the first person that confessed having romantic feelings for me and I rarely thought about what kind of person I wanted to be with. Truth be told, relationships weren't my biggest priority in my teens and as recently as 19 years old, I had no idea what kind of man was even my ideal lover. After dumping my most recent ex, relationships seemed impossible to maintain for me and I decided to give up on them entirely since I thought I couldn't find a good man to save my life.

Later, of course, I did give love another chance. I don't regret it, but true to Venus square Chiron, there has been pain in my relationship. Still, for the most part, I am extremely happy with my current partner.

What do you value in relationship (what do you really need?) and what aspects in your natal chart indicate such relationship nature in your opinion?
I need stability and commitment, fun times, tons of communication, and mental stimulation. In a partner, I value intellect, loyalty, humor, and shared interests. Being able to spend a decent amount of time with my partner is a must and he is required to have an appreciation for creative expression. Being able to help me with my creative projects is a bonus, but it is not required. I like partners that work hard and play hard as well.

Placements that indicate these things include...
- Sun in Taurus
- Moon in Gemini
- Moon in 7th house near the 8th house cusp
- Mercury in 5th house
- Venus in Taurus
- Venus in 5th house

posted June 05, 2017 04:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Claudine:
Hello!

So the topic is...
I know that we can predict what relationship potential a person can have looking at their natal chart. Is it right?

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Think about it more in terms of your birth chart being a general template, less in terms of prediction. You are creating your life as you go along. So the outcomes are yours. There are some points of compatibility and an outline of your style of relating and needs there in the birth chart.

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What houses\aspects we should analyze?
Any other indicators besides 7th house?

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Conventionally, in the chart of a woman seeking a man, we look at the first applying aspect the Sun makes and that Mars makes.

Some people will also look at the 5th house, but it is the 3rd, 7th, and 11th that are the houses of relationship.

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For example, what does it mean when all relationships that someone has are abusive or partner is unfaithful or they are unhappy in any romantic relationship they've had.

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In my opinion it means you can do better and haven't found your place of balance in relation to others yet.

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What indicates this situation?
Could it be changed?

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Of course, it can be changed. We create our own relational dynamics. It takes two to tango. If one person doesn't there's no relationship.

I was without a romantic relationship for a long time. I did not find my wife until near age 39. None of us wants to wait that long, but patience may be the first virtue many of us must master to have a good relationship.

While there are some natal indicators of persons who may struggle in relationships until they find balance, this is not absolute, because many of those indicators have to do with how we deal with our emotions and affections -- a personal things, not about the other person. So someone with Moon or Venus opposite/square Pluto is dealing with challenges of intense feelings that go outside the lines of social propriety (or at least out of balance with yourself), and will be challenging until certain lessons are learned.

My wife has Venus tightly square Pluto in her birth chart. The hardest of those lessons are behind her. As soon as she decided she would no longer date jerks and anyone had to first respect her, I appeared in her life.

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Or vice versa, what indicates that person can be happy in love?

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Everyone can be. This is an outcome that is not dictated by a birth chart, but is determined by your approach and choices in relationship. I had to change myself and the signal I was putting out before women started noticing me enough. Then it still took a while.

There is a partner for everyone who wants one. No one is denied a partner or happiness because of what is in their birth chart. Some folks may have more challenges than others and it may take more time to get there than for other people.

A Saturnine person can be happy just as a Jovial can be. It just puts 'happiness' on a different platform.

The Saturnine person is more likely to be happy when they feel that their life is in order and business has been taken care of. the Jovial (Jupiterian) person is more likely to be happy if there is a sense of increase/upswing and they're able to break free of work and duties often enough.

posted June 05, 2017 05:06 PM            

Most of us cannot sustain intense feelings over time, because they just drain us. So we tame our own emotions and/or look for a kind of partner with whom we can be more in balance.

This is a challenge since many of us are carrying years of unmet needs from being raised by imperfect parents. And it is 100% totally unfair to dump that all on another human being.

As to things more specific to your chart, you have Venus 23 Taurus opposite a Moon-Pluto conjunction 20-23 Scorpio. Strong emotions around love, sex, and attachment. Self-awareness and patience will go a long way towards overcoming the challenges. Otherwise, relationships will always be hard fought.

However, Venus is also trine Uranus-Neptune 20 Capricorn, and those planets are sextile Moon-Pluto. So you have potential for trans-personal development will help accomplish this.

Normally, people first go through the hardships of Saturn's lessons and apparent denial until we see it was just delay and we had those lessons to learn. Mostly they are just related to self-worth and patience.

The first applying aspect by Sun in your chart is contra-parallel Uranus. ... Mars = sextile Sun.

So this suggests you like Uranian and Solar qualities in a partner. That would seem to reinforce the relational axis of your chart with Leo rising and Aquarius on the DC/7th cusp.

posted June 06, 2017 05:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Welcome,Claudine.Your English is amazing!

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@Aries23Degrees

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Your relationship potential is dependent on your comfortability in letting another in (intimately).

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@Lerena

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I have Venus square Chiron

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@Kannon McAfee
Thank you for your reply, it is full of wisdom
I agree with your opinion that we can use our most challenging aspects to learn something and to transform it.

It is a gift that you looked at my chart, thank you
I'd like to get more stable relationships, it's true, I feel that too much emotions affect me badly.

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This is a challenge since many of us are carrying years of unmet needs from being raised by imperfect parents. And it is 100% totally unfair to dump that all on another human being.

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I attract many Leos as well x) as you said, it is prominent in my chart.
Leo with whom we have Uranian kinda relationships or my ex-partner has a career in IT (Uranian profession). Now I know.

For me it is an another challenge to have relationships with these freedom-lovers. Personally I want to have relationships that let people to have their own personal lives (and myself), but it's hard sometimes to deal with such individualsm.
So a little bit confused. Still working on it.
Thank you again! I think, I'll re-read your answers for many times

@StelliumH6
I am glad that this topic helped you too