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sunpixie007
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posted June 08, 2017 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunpixie007     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
are they boring in the sac? I read on another thread http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/203426.html that they can best be described as "repressed nymphomaniacs", is this true?


I know other aspects play role but i'm just talking in general mars in cancer terms. Please share your experiences with them or if you are one, how do you view your sexuality/how do your partners respond to you?

EDIT: Indeed I do have this placement. Hmm... lemme think...Contrary to what our society in the west promotes, casual sex is not my go to. Like I physically cannot get off to unemotional sex. I like a man that takes charge in all aspects of life, but still wildly emotional and visceral in his being. I always dream of snagging a mars in scorpio guy. And I think this way because mars in water signs need an emotional sphere where sexuality can flourish. Not neccessarily love, but emotions. I'm desperate to please, and like other threads have said, I am deeply insecure sometimes about my actions and consequently my sexual expertise as well. I think I do best sexually when I let loose, and literally "ride" the tidal wave my mars in cancer grants me access to. LOL!!

EDIT #2: Hey can you guys please focus on females on this thread, thank you. I'm sure there is other threads for mars in cancer men lol sorry

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posted June 08, 2017 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well you have that placement, pls share your experience too..

I would love to hear about mars in cancer men too... How do they approach sex?

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posted June 09, 2017 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really don't get this rep mars in scorpio has, I have slept with two mars in scorpio males with sun in libra and neither was the type to approach sex as an emotional experience involving two soulmates giving themselves body and soul to each other and this includes my husband who is very cerebral and loves porn. My experience with mars in scorpio men is that to them sex is just sex, they enjoy sex but is just sex.

Now mars in cancer I feel they feel very vulnerable around sex and perhaps are very cautious about giving themselves in that regard giving it like a mars in aspect to saturn flavor bc they are scared and hold back perhaps but would love to hear from mars in cancer men, that is the impression I get anyways.

Now mars in scorpio is not scared, they are in control and in so much control that they have good stamina but don't know how to let go emotionally during sex...

Now Mars in Pisces will just go with the flow and enjoy whatever sexual opportunities present themselves to them lol, probably very intuitive during sex and is easier for them to give their partner what they crave and fulfill their sexual fantasies, they don't have the hang ups of mars in cancer or mars in scorpio but more likely to cheat in comparison to mars in cancer or mars in scorpio..

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posted June 09, 2017 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunpixie007     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I really don't get this rep mars in scorpio has, I have slept with two mars in scorpio males with sun in libra and neither was the type to approach sex as an emotional experience involving two soulmates giving themselves body and soul to each other and this includes my husband who is very cerebral and loves porn. My experience with mars in scorpio men is that to them sex is just sex, they enjoy sex but is just sex.

Now mars in cancer I feel they feel very vulnerable around sex and perhaps are very cautious about giving themselves in that regard giving it like a mars in aspect to saturn flavor bc they are scared and hold back perhaps but would love to hear from mars in cancer men, that is the impression I get anyways.

Now mars in scorpio is not scared, they are in control and in so much control that they have good stamina but don't know how to let go emotionally during sex...

Now Mars in Pisces will just go with the flow and enjoy whatever sexual opportunities present themselves to them lol, probably very intuitive during sex and is easier for them to give their partner what they crave and fulfill their sexual fantasies, they don't have the hang ups of mars in cancer or mars in scorpio but more likely to cheat in comparison to mars in cancer or mars in scorpio..


I think your MIS experiences were lacking because you are/were with libras. Libras are very cerebral and the ones I know with this mars are highly sexed, like you said. Maybe I'm wrong, i just fantasize about MIS, but I have yet to snag one lol. How do YOU view sex/your sexuality as a MIC female? Have you ever been w/ a Mars in taurus guy? I'm with one now and have yet to sexually dive in with him but am curious

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posted June 09, 2017 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sunpixie007:
I think your MIS experiences were lacking because you are/were with libras. Libras are very cerebral and the ones I know with this mars are highly sexed, like you said. Maybe I'm wrong, i just fantasize about MIS, but I have yet to snag one lol. How do YOU view sex/your sexuality as a MIC female? Have you ever been w/ a Mars in taurus guy? I'm with one now and have yet to sexually dive in with him but am curious

I have mars in leo, I was just sharing my instincts about mars in cancer. I have not had the honor to sleep with one I dont think.


The mars in Scorpio guys you know, what are their sun and moon signs?

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posted June 09, 2017 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for sharing your mars in cancer self description, sounds cool. I have a crush in a mars in cancer guy.

Mars in cancer wants to get married early and have kids early, they feel an impulse for this I think...

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posted June 09, 2017 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunpixie007     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I have mars in leo, I was just sharing my instincts about mars in cancer. I have not had the honor to sleep with one I dont think.


The mars in Scorpio guys you know, what are their sun and moon signs?


Hahaha "the honor". IDK why you seem caught up on mars in cancer guys. Come to think of it I actually know many (my cousin, my uncle, a former classmate from high school, etc). They all strike me as extremely passive and un masculine, scared even. I think that they are all lowkey horny though. They have weird hang-ups associated with their sexuality and masculinity, i think. Tough place for mars but esp. for a man imo

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posted June 09, 2017 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunpixie007     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I have mars in leo, I was just sharing my instincts about mars in cancer. I have not had the honor to sleep with one I dont think.


The mars in Scorpio guys you know, what are their sun and moon signs?


As far as mars in scorpio guys, all the ones irl have been libras with fiery moons. But the ones I obsess over are in the celeb world (leo dicaprio scorpio sun/lib moon), paul dano (gem sun/pisces moon) - he's unconventionally attractive but he has MIS energy down to a T and is very sexy I think.

I actually know and have been close to many, many MIS females. They are scared of nothing in life. Very into extremes (exercise, etc). I get along well with them and we go about life in a water sign way, but something always tells me not to trust them 100%. There's always something you will NEVER know about a MIS person, and they like to keep it that way.

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posted June 09, 2017 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sunpixie007:
Contrary to what our society in the west promotes, casual sex is not my go to. Like I physically cannot get off to unemotional sex. I like a man that takes charge in all aspects of life, but still wildly emotional and visceral in his being. I always dream of snagging a mars in scorpio guy. And I think this way because mars in water signs need an emotional sphere where sexuality can flourish. Not neccessarily love, but emotions. I'm desperate to please, and like other threads have said, I am deeply insecure sometimes about my actions and consequently my sexual expertise as well. I think I do best sexually when I let loose, and literally "ride" the tidal wave my mars in cancer grants me access to. LOL!!



Many women on LL are this way, regardless of where their Mars is. Many of them also fantasize of MIS, though it seems to me they often find that wanting is better than having as the reality doesn't quite match the fantasy. Though interesting enough, there's been a couple who admit to hating themselves who also seek the MIS, presumably for the pain...

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posted June 09, 2017 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sunpixie007:
.. They all strike me as extremely passive and un masculine, scared even. I think that they are all lowkey horny though. They have weird hang-ups associated with their sexuality and masculinity, i think. Tough place for mars but esp. for a man imo

Cancer Mars Male here. I've had those momements, but I've had other momements where I'm brave and bold.

I guess that has more to do with my Aries Moon and Capricorn Ascendant kicking into action.

I'm normally either extremely passive, strategizing what to do next or in an "overkill situation" and not afraid since everything is stacked in my favor.

Heck, I wasn't even going to comment on this thread until a few posts came up...figured nows the time!!!, lol.

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Originally posted by hypatia238:

Mars in cancer wants to get married early and have kids early, they feel an impulse for this I think...

I think its one way or the other. I'm strongly against kids and marriage.

I have an old Gemini Friend, a day older almost identical chart. The only difference is his moon is in Pisces and his ascendant is in a water sign, he is way more sensitive then me.

Me and my libra friends used to call him "needy" and make fun of him.

Yet he was dating before us. While my libra bud and I would be playing games all night he was already in a committed relationship.

I thought that was ironic, how did that supposed mars in cancer wimp score?, lol.

The point is he wanted a relationship early, I'm more to myself.

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posted June 09, 2017 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd missed the statement about Cancer Mars males. I only know one well, but he most definitely is not passive, and he has a major sex drive (though worth noting he's an Aries sun, Sag Asc, and his Mars is 8H). But he is loyal to family, and though I could see him as viewed as a "bad boy to tame," he was never a cheater (at least not to my knowledge) and he has a lot of loyalty to family, be it his wife and kids or extended family. He was more of a white knight figure...assuming the knight was laid back and fun loving rather than all formal (and gods, the way he trolled authority figures when he was a kid , and sometimes even as an adult, though it was often meant in good fun rather than to be mean). He also has a strong patriotic streak, at least in a manner of speaking.

Back when we were kids he once told me that no one torments me but him. When **** rumors were spread about me he made it clear he and his friends would do things so horrible to anyone who raped me that they'd commit suicide after, and he didn't care of it the guy was a preacher, he'd both believe and avenge me. I believe he may have very well prevented sexual abuse from happening to me.

As an adult I brought a blasian friend with tribal tats from California who drew a lot of dirty looks from another table, and I noticed it when my Mars in Cancer cousin shouted, "WHAT!?" at them. Other male relatives looked the same direction, as did I, and the guys at the other table turned away. That's braver than most men, and I do think it's his Cancer Mars that makes him care about family.

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posted June 09, 2017 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I'd missed the statement about Cancer Mars males. I only know one well, but he most definitely is not passive, and he has a major sex drive (though worth noting he's an Aries sun, Sag Asc, and his Mars is 8H). But he is loyal to family, and though I could see him as viewed as a "bad boy to tame," he was never a cheater (at least not to my knowledge) and he has a lot of loyalty to family, be it his wife and kids or extended family. He was more of a white knight figure...assuming the knight was laid back and fun loving rather than all formal (and gods, the way he trolled authority figures when he was a kid , and sometimes even as an adult, though it was often meant in good fun rather than to be mean). He also has a strong patriotic streak, at least in a manner of speaking.

Back when we were kids he once told me that no one torments me but him. When **** rumors were spread about me he made it clear he and his friends would do things so horrible to anyone who raped me that they'd commit suicide after, and he didn't care of it the guy was a preacher, he'd both believe and avenge me. I believe he may have very well prevented sexual abuse from happening to me.

As an adult I brought a blasian friend with tribal tats from California who drew a lot of dirty looks from another table, and I noticed it when my Mars in Cancer cousin shouted, "WHAT!?" at them. Other male relatives looked the same direction, as did I, and the guys at the other table turned away. That's braver than most men, and I do think it's his Cancer Mars that makes him care about family.


He probably felt comfortable with you, sorta like the overkill situation I described.

As per getting out of law, mars in cancer males can play the innocent gentle me part pretty good.

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posted June 09, 2017 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the mars in cancer men I know aren't highly sexed and very conservative regardless of their Sun sign.

I've dated a double Taurus and a Scorpio Sun/ Sag moon with this placement.

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posted June 09, 2017 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They say a picture is worth a thousand words.

Mars in Cancer males at there best!

Mars in Cancer males at there worst!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKqXu-5jw60

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posted June 09, 2017 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunpixie007     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Many women on LL are this way, regardless of where their Mars is. Many of them also fantasize of MIS, though it seems to me they often find that wanting is better than having as the reality doesn't quite match the fantasy. Though interesting enough, there's been a couple who admit to hating themselves who also seek the MIS, presumably for the pain...

Maybe on Lindaland, but not in real life. I'm 21 and a lot of girls my age are very into casual sex so thats what I was countering in my explanation.

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posted June 09, 2017 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it would be silly to judge someone's bedroom skills based on their Mars position.

The position expresses the "how" and does not in and of itself suggest that the bedroom skills are inborn.

And besides, bedroom skills are subjective. Some like it rough/versatile whilst others slow and thorough.

The Mars in Cancer woman may prefer the latter to the former. As often times feeling secure and safe is pivotal in helping her relax and explore.

So when someone takes their time with them and gives them the sort of attention a baby would get(even babying them in some ways),then i would guess they would feel more able to bring out the inner freak.

This Mars sign(in both men and women) seems to unwind in the comfort of a long-term relationship and may hold back until then.

Much like Mars in Cap, the more committed to the relationship they feel the better lover they become. Because that relationship doubles up as a nest that they exert a lot of energy into.

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I've had some observations about Mars in Cancer females.

The first thing that was contrary to my expectations is that they actually have moderate to high libidos but they indeed don't like sex just for the sake of sex. People sometimes have this strange dissonance that "romance" is sweet, gentle and frigid but Mars in Cancer proves that it is in fact "romance" and "feelings" that can be very sexual. There needs to be some kind of emotional scenario or "drama" even to make them click. This doesn't necessarily make it good or virtuous - one woman with this placement wanted a man just because he was taken and she wanted to seduce him and see if he'd choose her over his own partner but that's an extreme example. Sex being treated as something impersonal like a psychical need is usually an antagonistic idea for them.

They can be cautious (sometimes cowardly) about who they give themselves to physically. They may be lusty but usually hold out if they had to choose from men who are cold and uncaring with nothing to offer.

They may also have a thing for being "conquered". You can interpret that however you want lol

This may be too specific but I've seen them flirt using maternity-based lines like "I want his babies" or "Have my children" or something like that.

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posted June 09, 2017 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunpixie007     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've had some observations about Mars in Cancer females.

The first thing that was contrary to my expectations is that they actually have moderate to high libidos but they indeed don't like sex just for the sake of sex. People sometimes have this strange dissonance that "romance" is sweet, gentle and frigid but Mars in Cancer proves that it is in fact "romance" and "feelings" that can be very sexual. There needs to be some kind of emotional scenario or "drama" even to make them click. This doesn't necessarily make it good or virtuous - one woman with this placement wanted a man just because he was taken and she wanted to seduce him and see if he'd choose her over his own partner but that's an extreme example. Sex being treated as something impersonal like a psychical need is usually an antagonistic idea for them.

They can be cautious (sometimes cowardly) about who they give themselves to physically. They may be lusty but usually hold out if they had to choose from men who are cold and uncaring with nothing to offer.

They may also have a thing for being "conquered". You can interpret that however you want lol

This may be too specific but I've seen them flirt using maternity-based lines like "I want his babies" or "Have my children" or something like that.


Oh my god you are awesome, its likes you took who I am and put it into words. I always sexualize emotions, etc

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posted June 09, 2017 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

meyrey

This may be too specific but I've seen them flirt using maternity-based lines like "I want his babies" or "Have my children" or something like that.[/QUOTE]

There is a maternal baby fetish or something erotic connected to making babies. Forgot about this

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posted June 09, 2017 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sunpixie007:
As far as mars in scorpio guys, all the ones irl have been libras with fiery moons. But the ones I obsess over are in the celeb world (leo dicaprio scorpio sun/lib moon), paul dano (gem sun/pisces moon) - he's unconventionally attractive but he has MIS energy down to a T and is very sexy I think.

I actually know and have been close to many, many MIS females. They are scared of nothing in life. Very into extremes (exercise, etc). I get along well with them and we go about life in a water sign way, but something always tells me not to trust them 100%. There's always something you will NEVER know about a MIS person, and they like to keep it that way.


Yeah my best friend who is a girl has mars in Scorpio and she does not have a high sex drive at all. I don't consider her very sexual, She dresses provocative and likes the attention but when it comes down to it she is not a sexual person, is more a front, an appearance. She looks sexual although does not "feel" sexual but she is actually a prude IMO, I am way more sexual and emotional when it comes to sex than her by far which I attribute to my venus conjunct mars in a fire sign Leo and moon in pisces square neptune 5H ruler.

Leornadio di caprio is also a sun in scorpio so that is different but we dont know how active his sex life is anyways. He could be an example too of someone that looks more sexual than they actually are as in when you actually have sex with them is good but not the emotional merging experience you thought it would be. However, he has sun in scorpio so that could make a big difference..

Another example you gave is someone with moon in pisces which perhaps trines his mars in scorpio, I feel moon in pisces (me) feels when others are turned on so they get easily aroused too..

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All the mars in cancer men I know aren't highly sexed and very conservative regardless of their Sun sign.

So, why with this cancer mars man that everytime he sees me, he can't hold his pants?

If I say no, he gets even. Once is not enough for him. We can lay in bed for a whole day in a holiday. He looooves cuddling especially after sex and falls asleep while holding me tight like a pillow. If he senses I make a move, he will say, "where do you want to go?" while strengthening his arms.

They may look like a puppy, a shy, a conservative, a low-key horny, but, those images are gone when in bed they are really a freak. I even questioned him if he was a sex addict but he answered, "only with you". I remember that I was scared and thought that I was sleeping with an addict psycho and was thinking how to run away.

I think every mars in Cancer people will blossoms in an emotional fulfilling relationship. Since they are a very insecure people, they need someone who can make them feel confident about themself in a bed room.

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posted June 09, 2017 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So, why with this cancer mars man that everytime he sees me, he can't hold his pants?

If I say no, he gets even. Once is not enough for him. We can lay in bed for a whole day in a holiday. He looooves cuddling especially after sex and falls asleep while holding me tight like a pillow. If he senses I make a move, he will say, "where do you want to go?" while strengthening his arms.

They may look like a puppy, a shy, a conservative, a low-key horny, but, those images are gone when in bed they are really a freak. I even questioned him if he was a sex addict but he answered, "only with you". I remember that I was scared and thought that I was sleeping with an addict psycho and was thinking how to run away.

I think every mars in Cancer people will blossoms in an emotional fulfilling relationship. Since they are a very insecure people, they need someone who can make them feel confident about themself in a bed room.


Does he have mars conjunct venus aspecting his pluto..

Added: I have slept with someone with mars conjunct moon exact, he is the only guy who I enjoy cuddling with after sex, lunar mars are good at cuddling. Normally cuddling after sex makes me feel trapped bc I feel I cant move lol. I am a bit restless...

We are still friends years later and he still wants to see me so I feel lunar mars do get attached when they have sex but I do too, my moon does aspect my 5H ruler and 8th ruler and is in pisces and falls in the 4H.

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posted June 09, 2017 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by meyray:
I've had some observations about Mars in Cancer females.

The first thing that was contrary to my expectations is that they actually have moderate to high libidos but they indeed don't like sex just for the sake of sex. People sometimes have this strange dissonance that "romance" is sweet, gentle and frigid but Mars in Cancer proves that it is in fact "romance" and "feelings" that can be very sexual. There needs to be some kind of emotional scenario or "drama" even to make them click. This doesn't necessarily make it good or virtuous - one woman with this placement wanted a man just because he was taken and she wanted to seduce him and see if he'd choose her over his own partner but that's an extreme example. Sex being treated as something impersonal like a psychical need is usually an antagonistic idea for them.

They can be cautious (sometimes cowardly) about who they give themselves to physically. They may be lusty but usually hold out if they had to choose from men who are cold and uncaring with nothing to offer.

They may also have a thing for being "conquered". You can interpret that however you want lol

This may be too specific but I've seen them flirt using maternity-based lines like "I want his babies" or "Have my children" or something like that.



I know a guy with mars in cancer conjunct venus and he said women just want to have sex with him but he wants romance and to take them out, give them flowers, open the door for them and take his time getting to the sex part.

My best friend from high school has sun and mars in cancer and she was very similar, it was about the romance. The scorpio guys I would go for she thought were pervs... Lol. She didnt have a high sex drive bc sex was not very important to her but I feel she was more in touch with her emotions and sexuality than my other best friend with mars in Scorpio.

My current best friend has mars in Aries and I feel we have similar sex drives.

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posted June 09, 2017 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sunpixie007:
Hahaha "the honor". IDK why you seem caught up on mars in cancer guys. Come to think of it I actually know many (my cousin, my uncle, a former classmate from high school, etc). They all strike me as extremely passive and un masculine, scared even. I think that they are all lowkey horny though. They have weird hang-ups associated with their sexuality and masculinity, i think. Tough place for mars but esp. for a man imo

I think you are right on, truly great observations! I will add a lot of guys with this placement have anger issues and with a leo sun can feel very masculine.

But mars in cancer squares my pluto and forms a grand trine with my moon and AC so I do occasionally come across one that gets my attention naturally, especially if there are other cool synastry and composite aspects..

So I am not "caught up" with mars in cancer, I have had two crushes in total of men with this placement so is not like a pattern lol..but since I have never been with one I am curious to learn more about them..

I think if I want to sleep with someone regardless of their placements it will be an honor to sleep with them, it means they make me feel emotions not everyone pulls out and to me that is sacred (mars in cancer can do that bc of the synastry aspects I explained earlier). Nobody is perfect but if you can make me feel deeper yes then is an honor to sleep with you and you with I, a gift.

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
They say a picture is worth a thousand words.

Mars in Cancer males at there best!


Very hot, yes one mars in cancer I knew is a prosecutor, he helps keep communities save by putting people who commit violent crimes in jail. The other wants to be a firefighter.

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