posted June 11, 2017 06:18 PM            

Likewise, I've known a Cappie Mars who had higher sexual ethics than average despite how they tend to be described as perverts (one site even referred to them as the "devil" who'd find a way to enact their perverted desires on about anyone careless of the pain it caused).

posted June 12, 2017 04:55 AM            

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Originally posted by meyray:
I swear I entered another dimension opening this thread.

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posted June 12, 2017 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Snow Dragon:
They are getting money.

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Laughing! .... Actually, that's not too far from the truth, in my own experience.

My 2nd husband had been a Cappy ~4-1/2yrs older.

Talk about a 'goal orientation'?

During that time of my life, I was all-in FULLY involved with a Pentecostal church. I was extremely popular and well-loved in that mega-church. I was what you'd call a 'platform' person, out in front of 2,000 people, singing on the microphones helping to lead worship services. Was also in the process of completing a year of bible-college, and doing other ~feats!! LOL

We had both belonged to this church for 4 or 5 years.
He 'decided' he wanted me.
When I was kind-of-not accepting his moves, he found 'another way' into my life (via my kids). I guess he was thinking that if my kids liked him, then he had a closer place to my Heart.

ref the Romance?
He send a GIANT HUGE Bouquet of flowers on Valentine's around two weeks after he formally introduced himself--- I did recognize his face in the congregation (since I was up on the platform). I LOVED the flowers.... but with that, he was pushy. I liked the alpha energy part of that? ... I have an exceedingly Romantic nature. But I was involved heavily into my work, then my studies, at that time. His attention was appreciated but I really didn't have the time in my busy schedule, and with being a single mom.

Later on, he told me that when he had shaken hands with me that certain Sunday after a concert we attended that 3rd week of January, he did it with the energetic 'intention' that he was going to 'take me to the altar'.

After I graduated (diploma) the first year bible college, it freed up my time slots. He made his move.... By that August he had captured my full attention.

Since we were older (above 30yo) our friends (and ministers) started considering us to BE a 'couple'... He was a single man. I was a single and a mom with two kids, needing some added support in life. {They put 2 and 2 together.... yada yada.) I was pleasantly overwhelmed by the glitz, the idea, the romance. The validation of my friends 'seeing' us as a couple.

Thing is??? Just before I 'fell for it', I had been thanking GOD for my Singleness. I was satisfied. I was on a good track. My girls were good (although, missing-out having a good male relationship in their life-- their bio-dad/ex1 had completely abandoned them).

What 'flipped' it for me (from being independently single and happy), was that I 'felt guilty' for my daughters NOT having a male role model in their life. And I dissolved my resolve, and subconsciously 'fell' for my own sense of guilt.

I wasn't worried about getting along with him. I could just about adjust to any person, as a 'companion' (and those were 'thoughts' I had, thinking about the girls being grown and having left the home).

I "Believed" what I saw.... and my Heart took the Leap.
I Believed every gesture, every word, every promise, all the Images he presented. I believed he was a True person. That he was telling me the Truth about who and what he represented.

When we got engaged at end of that October, we planned on wedding a year later. Then moved it up to August. Then moved it up to March. Then---- my own Cappy-like business side said 'Hey! I have 10,000 dollar deduction on my taxes that will go for naught, unless I were married by Dec 31. I 'figured' how that would 'pay' for our wedding. How it would be the ideal time to switch the girls' schools (out of state move, to a more rural part of US).

I discussed it with him, practical. Not wasting money-- having the wedding and costs 'paid for' by moving the date up?

We decided to take the plunge.
I did all the wedding plans myself (people were freakin' amazed!! LOL)
It was set for the Day after Christmas.
The church hardly needed decorations, as there were Christmas trees, Beautiful lights and wreaths, and poinsettias all over...
(Which also saved on costs! ? *penny-squeaked?* LOL)
Father-in-law gave gift of honeymoon.

Now...... The closer we were getting to the week of the marriage itself, he was acting soooo fearful. I was immensely engrossed in doing all the final details of the wedding reception, the hall, the caterers, etc.

Workwise, I was also finishing up editing a manuscript for someone (for them to publish), beating a deadline for that TOO!

It was almost an experience of being really super busy and absorb in the details on the outside of me.... and suddenly kinda slo-mo 'seeing' his fear, dealing with my own reactions to it?

I decided to let HIM and his groomsmen 'take responsibility' for HIS fear. I thought it could 'just' be wedding jitters.

Cutting the story to the chase---

I found out ON the Wedding Night--- that I had just married someone who was VERY different than what he had presented. He basically ADMITTED he had lied...
(And we had saved 'sex' for the wedding night--- and he admitted to thinking he was impotent-- which!, I proved him wrong??)

He had hidden some things about his finances. I had TRUSTED him at his word.

It ended up, that I had been what you call 'a trophy'.

When the vows were said, done, and Legal-- I 'found out' (saw under the cover) what I had done with my Decision to give up the track I'd been on, and committed to a 'liar'.

He was a spendthrift. He spent most of his time alone, by himself--- I had WANTED someone I could talk to, be intimate-friend with, SHARE life together.

It was DRY. It was cold, forlorn.
My friends were long-distance from the rural I relo'd to. They 'went away'...
I was left in a place without outside contacts.
The grocery store and shopping was a 45 minute drive.

He ended up being an abusive man.
I remember what a 'coward' I became in front of him.
My daughters had been used to seeing me as a powerful female...
One day, my oldest daughter witnessed a very cruel verbal attack from him towards me. I remember her demanding strong tone at me--- saying, "MOM. DOOOO Something!!!." Meaning, that I should have DEFENDED myself. Gotten into his face, told him off.
He abused me.
The 'ideal' role model I thought he would be, ended up with my daughters NOT only having been abandoned by their bio-dad, but witnessing what little-girls should NEVER be taught about .... they WATCHED 'a coward' rather than the Strong Woman they had known since their birth.
I Failed them.
Things just went downhill.... from that point on.

So.
Yes.... He was looking 'guilty' during the whole Wedding Ceremony.
I found out The Truth, on the wedding night.
My cappy... was actually an abuser.
When I wound up at a women's shelter for safety, he fit the 'profile'... including the way he had gone after my Children in order to gain favor with me.

This DOESN'T mean that YOUR Cappy would be like this man?

If you are 'sensing' the guilt in him... find out WHY.
If you go further and start being too serious about him, HIRE a Detective!!! LOL!!!

I have a Mercury Gem H7 trine my Neptune-rx Libra H10.
I have a Mars Cancer H7gem trine Neptune Libra.

That's a Mercury-Mars conjuction, different elements, trine the Neptune.

I tend to Believe in the Fantasy.
Your words (Merc) and deeds (Mars) get 'Believed' because My HEART totally has FAITH in you....

You'd better be telling me Truth...
I LIVE with a Truthful Soul, and a Spiritual Ideal.

Maybe I should let the Vedics and astrologers choose my partners???? LOL

My HEART has been able to be deceived and broken... too many times.

I BELIEVE,
and I have FAITH....

I've just sucked at having good discernment when Love has touched my Heart.

I HOLD people to their WORD.
I MAKE them Accountable for WHAT they say....
because I LIVE what I Believe in. I say the truth, and I tend to believe that others won't lie to me (especially my closest friends and partners). I LIVE that Ideal IN and with my Heart.

I DESERVE Honest partners... who don't rip me off.
I DESERVE Friends, who TELL me if they 'suspect' the person I'm getting close with.
(After the fact, I had some friends who told me they 'questioned' my cappy's honesty-- to which I told them that they SHOULD have told me this, BEFORE the vows.)

Been financially ripped off, too many times.

I attract Wealth into partnerships. (My Chart DOES THAT, in partnering relationships.)

I need HONEST people who MATCH my level of Integrity, AND Spiritual Ideals.

I deserve people who match and can EARN the Trust I give.

My TRUST has Value.
I deserve to feel Protected.

(music) Early one morning (Nana Mouskouri, Songs of the British Isles, English folk song, 1976; lyrics) [2:34] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIhu990krQ0

** Old wounds, exposed... for Healing*

posted June 12, 2017 06:28 PM            

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Maybe he just likes you and is why he is been swwwet. Caps tend to be genuinely nice and uncomplicated people, they are the type that are just nice to people so maybe that makes you suspicious but that is just the way caps are typically, they really are just nice and loyal, I feel is part if their philosophy of life to be kind to everyone.

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posted June 12, 2017 06:32 PM            

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My 2nd husband had been a Cappy ~4-1/2yrs older.

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posted June 12, 2017 06:37 PM            

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Have you had experience with a Capricorn man being really nice to you after he did something that is making him feel bad? He hasn't exposed what he's done, perhaps feels guilty. Or am I jumping to conclusions and he is being genuine? Would a Capricorn hide behind the sweetness?

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posted June 12, 2017 11:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
What were his other placements? Mars & Moon.

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MARS Aquarius 9.40
MOON Leo 3-14

posted June 13, 2017 12:33 AM            

7th HOUSE: Individuals with a 7th House stellium as the least likely to marry or stay married. So many energies come out in a relationship that they feel swallowed up by other people in close relationships. They are often loners or they suddenly end relationships to break the relationship obsession. Libran traits manifest in relationships, specifically indecision when dealing with others. It is excellent for work in counseling or consultant occupations. These de-personalize the one-on-one relationships. The many planets in the 7th can describe many types of clients with whom the individual would deal. This is excellent for a lawyer, arbitrator, psychologist and business consultant.

I have observed this stellium firsthand. The individual complains that the relationships takes up so much of their energy that they lose their own identity. It is easier to be a loner. However, upon closer inspection, I observed that, when involved in a relationship, the individual obsesses upon that relationship to the point wherein he or she loses perspective, becoming oblivious to anyone or anything else. A friend with such a stellium visited the United States. He stayed in Baltimore for 2 weeks and then he stayed with me. When he was with me, he forgot all about his friends in Baltimore. And, when he left to stay with one of my students, he became oblivious to me and certain obligations that he had to me. He focused in on the person he was with and lost sight of everything else. If I had not seen this myself, I never would have understood this phenomena. A very independent friend with such a stellium would always lose herself in a relationship, devoting all of her energies to what the partner needed without regard for her own needs To end this obsession, she would just run away from the relationship.

posted June 13, 2017 10:13 AM            

Stellium and the Goat Man PLACIDUS Synastry - http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/004568.html

posted June 13, 2017 11:18 AM            

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Originally posted by StelliumH6:
hypatia~ Could your explanation be the answer with what I have been struggling with for over 2 years? At the end of last year, he said he wanted a "break from this" and I told him to take some time. We spoke every so often, then got back together about a month later. He told me then that he gets overwhelmed. I try my best not to pressure him with my actions. How can I help him not get scared in our relationship? What can I do to make him feel that we will be okay?

He does not display any emotions that he is feeling swallowed up in the relationship nor obsessed. In fact, it is the complete opposite. He keeps his distance for quite some time. But then when we are together it is out of this world. The mental stimulation, the enjoyment, the love is all there. Afterwards, he pulls away and it leaves me so confused. On one occasion he told me - You will be in my life, but you will not be my life. I always have taken his behavior as detached, but is this his coping mechanism? Advice please to secure and further our relationship? I want him to know I understand.

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With caps you cannot go by what they "display" always as they internalize a lot and so a lot of times what they are feeling is not something you can actually "see." They have a rep for been stoic for example so they can feel depressed but won't show that to the world. It sounds like he fits well the 7H stellium description as he has told you things like "I need to break from this" and he told you he gets "overwhelmed." How relationships feel to him is not something you or I can understand bc we dont have a 7H stellium but to him is a real challenge and a serious barrier.

Its sad bc you two I feel have a nice composite and synastry but his natal is overriding whatever good is there. Love is simply not enough, I don't doubt you both love each other, he must truly care about you, its truly not you, it really is him.

I have an amazing synastry and composite with my ex, the most intense love I have ever experienced but love was not enough.

posted June 13, 2017 11:23 AM            

The thing is that with his moon intercepted he probably has a hard time expressing his feelings but is worth a shot to have that conversation..

It might be that there is nothing you can do on your part, maybe taking medication for anxiety could help him feel more in control bc I bet he feels a strong anxiety around relationships since he fears completely losing himself in them..

Intercepted MOON: