posted June 23, 2017 06:29 PM            

Neptune has this trans-dimensional feel to it of a love that transcends this earthly plane, space and time. As someone heavy in Neptune I like that.

Neptune's Discovery Chart has a Sun-Eros-Amor stellium with Eros at the midpoint of Sun/Amor. This Stellium squares Interkosmos, Interkosmos and TARDIS both sextile and parallel exact.

Neptune's Discovery Chart:

Sun stellium
Sun in Libra at 0°30'52
Eros in Libra at 2°30'20 (Midpoint Sun/Amor)
IC in Libra at 2°38 BAM! LOL Beautiful
Amor in Libra at 4°24'56 (Midpoint Eros/Compassion)
Compassion in Libra at 6° 3'18

AGAPENOR in Leo at 3°36 (sextiles Sun Stellium)

Interkosmos in Cancer at 1° 3'28
27° 1'12" N
TARDIS in Virgo at 1°57' 1
27° 8'4" N

Neptune has venus, mercury and mars in virgo which is why Neptune is so picky and idealistic when it comes to love (venus in virgo) and simultaneously why it is a planet that is passionate about serving others as mars in virgo which parallels COMPASSION is at the apex of a YOD with Pluto sextile Saturn conjunct Neptune. Saturn rules work and career and is what we feel a sense of duty for, Mars is about taking action with virgo there the sign of service and since its part of YOD this means this is neptune's purpose (Yod's are known as the finger of God), ADD that Pluto conjuncts the Southnode.

I do feel Neptune's energy is better utilized for serving humanity evidenced by that Yod with Mars in Virgo parallel COMPASSION at the apex inconjuncting Pluto conjunct Southnode sextile Saturn conjunct Neptune.

But that Sun stellium (sun-eros-amor-compassion) sextile AGAPENOR with Sun conjunct Eros square Interkosmos which sextiles and parallels TARDIS feels more like that feeling of unconditional love that transcends time and space that I associate with highly neptunian synastry and composite like the one I have with my ex.

And this is why Neptune is considered the higher octave of venus, its that Sun love stellium sextile Agapenor and that Mars in Virgo YOD. But I get that we keep reading over and over and over again that Neptune is deception so is hard to trust Neptune in spite of the fact is considered by the astrological community as a whole the higher octave of venus.

The irony that Neptune's Discovery Chart has Mercury in Virgo sextile Juno conjunct TRUTH but Neptune is often seeing as deception. Juno is Married to TRUTH in Neptune's discovery chart and it sextiles Mercury in Virgo exalted.

As a neptunian person I am often distracted but that is bc I am in my head reflecting about life and a bunch of things, searching for the truth constantly, lost in my head thinking and pondering and reflecting hehehe..Yes at times I am clumsy too bc I am lost in my head thinking, reflecting, analyzing, searching for the truth...

BUT lets see what LIE is doing on Neptune's CHART and Lie conjuncts Mercury by 3d although the sextile from Mercury to truth is tighter and TRUTH conjuncts JUNO showing a strong commitment and devotion to finding and uncovering the truth. I feel people see Neptune as deception when I don't feel that is the main force behind the its discovery chart at all so its annoying that this is emphasized soooooooo much. In the end that Truth Conjunct JUNO sextile Mercury fits Neptune's reflective nature.

Lie in Virgo at 16°31'54
Mercury in Virgo at 19°13'54
Juno in Scorpio at 18°33'46"
TRUTH in Scorpio at 21° 5'30"

ALL planets operate under 3 different Levels depending on where you are at in your spiritual Journey. Rudhyar says we have to work through the three levels of each planet in our chart, and some days (and lifetimes!) are better than others for each planet. This makes sense to me since every planet has good and bad in their discovery chart.

Then add that Neptune has Nessus conjunct Dejanira which with that Sun Unconditional Love stellium and if you operating at level 1 of Neptune could lead to someone trapping themselves in an abusive relationship bc they love unconditionally the perpetrator. But even nessus and dejanira operating at level 3 would manifest in a healthy way.

posted June 24, 2017 01:54 PM            

Turns out that the discovery chart of Neptune has Altjira and Asteria conjunct its Northnode hence Neptune's strong association with the dream world and psychic phenomenon. Neptune's discovery chart is making more sense.

Asteria was the Goddess of oracles and prophecies of the night, such as prophetic dreams, astrology and necromancy ( communication with the dead).

Great info on Altjira: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/003953.html

posted July 09, 2017 09:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Neptune rules drugs of all kinds.

As fitting, the AMA (American Medical Association) was founded in 1846, the same year Neptune was discovered...

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posted February 02, 2018 12:21 PM            

ADB source notes:

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Wikipedia gives 'Neptune was discovered just after midnight (of the 24th) after less than an hour of searching and less than 1 degree from the position Le Verrier had predicted', with this reference: Kollerstrom, N. (2001). "A Neptune Discovery Chronology". The British Case for Co-prediction. University College London. Archived from the original. In this paper the time 00:00:14.6 (12.00.15 am) is given.

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Therefore, we can take all planet positions as accurate, including the Moon (Scorpio) at 13S18, which was only six minutes arc from exact parallel to Neptune itself at 13S24. Another great example of how bodies in supposedly 'incompatible' or 'square' signs can get together in unision.

Uranus is also the highest planet in the chart, Midheaven applying to it, inferring the implications for astronomy, astrology, etc.

posted February 02, 2018 12:42 PM            

I never know what neptune is about.It seems so spiritual at times,I remember that I have met all sort of spiritual subjects when neptune touched my venus in pisces.That's when I met astrology too.

But to me neptune is that type of thing you can't see but you can feel. You wish you could tell others because but you know they're not going to believe you.

The world is ruled by saturn harsh reality.

The line between two words is thinner to pisces people? or they are just plain crazy?That is that one million dolar question to me when it comes to this planet.

posted February 02, 2018 03:08 PM            

personally for me that chart confirms that neptune is exalted in either taurus or scorpio

people with neptune in taurus:

* very influential neptunian activities

albert einstien - pablo picasso - carl jung - coco chanel - edgar cayce - immanuel kant - jean jaqcues rousseau - helen keller - padre pio - hermann hesse - khalil gibran - rainer maria rilke - le corbusier

infamous:

joseph stalin - aleister crowley - mussolini - casanova

posted February 02, 2018 04:30 PM            

But I dont think anyone expected the discovery chart to be loaded with virgo or to have neptune conjunct saturn, hence why I said bizarre.

The discovery chart definitely invites us to rethink some of the assumptions made about Neptune.

Like I can see in the chart specially if we include the asteroids that neptune is indeed very intuitive, psychic, and rules the dream world but I can also see that neptune is highly analytical and that its compassion comes up to a point from a deep understanding we are all flawed (virgo stellium) and realistic expectations of others (neptune conjunct saturn) fueled by that deep understanding we are all flawed...

But yes not so bizarre if you look at it like that...

posted February 02, 2018 05:33 PM            

On astrotheme, Neptune's discovery has Pisces midheaven 0 degrees with Neptune conjunct the MC. Jupiter, natural ruler of the 12th, is in the 12th itself. Ceres and Part of Fortune are also in the 12th, interestingly. Uranus is in 11th. Neptune is most elevated planet with Saturn closely trailing behind.

On astro, MC is in Aries conjunct Uranus. Uranus is the most elevated and Pluto is trailing.

I checked astrodatabank for astro's source and I don't like how they used Wikipedia for their source. Within the wikipedia source, it quotes this book: Kollerstrom, N. (2001). "A Neptune Discovery Chronology".

I googled it to find the source to see if this book was maybe in pdf format and I found this site: http://web.archive.org/web/20051119031753/http://www.ucl.ac.uk/sts/nk/neptune/chron.htm

If that link isn't working, use this and scroll down to the references page. It's the first link. http://enacademic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/7173572

It's an archive of the book in web format and while it does give a time it's pretty measly imo. Though, for what it is worth, I think they transcribed it from one of the astronomer's old writings so maybe it is actually 12:00 am? But it doesn't clarify.