posted June 28, 2017 02:08 AM            

For example, a person with Sun conjunct or parallel Mercury must have their mind involved in their work, their own thinking/communicating. If not, they'll need to pursue it on the side.

The 6th and 10th houses -- of an chart with an accurate, verified Asc -- are the places normally associated with vocation and career. Many persons will not have anything noticeable (other than sign on cusp) associated with the 10th house. Look to the 6th, then the 1st. The other two houses need to always be seen in the context of the 1st house once you know the Asc degree is accurate.

Understand the various rising sign personalities with sign quality and planetary aspect energies, how some combinations show leadership/management potential and some do not (more subordinate). That is the difference between someone going into nursing and someone going into nursing with administrative ability.

Lastly, look for what is implied by the Lunar Node axis. It must be compatible with that.

posted June 28, 2017 04:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Turn the chart around and make the Mc the 1st house, Asc the 4th, Ic the 7th and the new Mc will be the former 7th.

That is why the 7th is also known as "relationships with the public".

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Wow never heard of that kind of method! But how would I interpret the new chart then? Would I deal with this as if my career was a person and this is their astrological profile?

posted June 28, 2017 04:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Look at the chart as is in total. Be sure the sign on the Asc actually matches the person you are looking at. Houses don't matter until you've first looked at aspects. Pay particular attention to conjunctions and parallels, especially to the luminaries, which will always be points of emphasis indicating what a person's focal energies are and which must find outlet in their work.

For example, a person with Sun conjunct or parallel Mercury must have their mind involved in their work, their own thinking/communicating. If not, they'll need to pursue it on the side.

The 6th and 10th houses -- of an chart with an accurate, verified Asc -- are the places normally associated with vocation and career. Many persons will not have anything noticeable (other than sign on cusp) associated with the 10th house. Look to the 6th, then the 1st. The other two houses need to always be seen in the context of the 1st house once you know the Asc degree is accurate.

Understand the various rising sign personalities with sign quality and planetary aspect energies, how some combinations show leadership/management potential and some do not (more subordinate). That is the difference between someone going into nursing and someone going into nursing with administrative ability.

Lastly, look for what is implied by the Lunar Node axis. It must be compatible with that.

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Hi Kannon, thank you su much! Now I`ve done that, but am still kinda stuck..
Can I show you my chart, and you tell me what you see? I`m asking because I think I do have a "strong chart", I don`t know why I struggle so much, career wise. I`ve felt quiet aimless my entire life..

Here`s a link to my natal chart:

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/022702.html

Would you also take a relocation chart into account, when analyzing someone`s career potential? I relocated when I was a child and have lived in my current location for the last 20 years..

I`m trying to follow your instructions, so here`s my take on my natal chart, please correct me if I´m wrong:

Conjunctions: Sun/Mercury in Pisces H4 , Venus/Mars in Aries H6, Asc/Pluto in Scorpio,
Moon/Vertex in Gemini H8

Communication is emphasized. Deep probing questions. Talking about 4th and 8th house issues. The scorpio theme is further enhanced by Scorpio Asc and the pluto conjunction. Emphasis on 6th house.. daily routine, beauty, fitness, health, nutrition..

MC in Leo: square Saturn H1, square Nodes H7, sextile Moon H8, trine Venus/Mars H6, trine Uranus H2

Extroverted expression. Wants to be seen, although this is challenged by self-esteem issues. Supported by H8 Moon (other peoples money?) further supported by daily routine. Uranus in H2 shows unusual rather erratic money-flow.

MC ruler in 4th house

Work from home.. or in real-estate

6th house in Aries: venus/mars conj

Aesthetic and exciting work environment. Short projects.

posted June 28, 2017 04:55 AM            

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Originally posted by ana_bee:
Wow never heard of that kind of method! But how would I interpret the new chart then? Would I deal with this as if my career was a person and this is their astrological profile?

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Right on the money

But 1st start with the chart "as is" and use Kannons suggestion. This method i myself have read plenty before and am testing it.

You can use it for another perspective as it usually highlights whats already there, but from a differing angle.

If you want to know other things, just keep turning.

Your partner? Use the 7th as the 1st
Your Dad? Use the 4th as the 1st
Your Mom? Use the 10th as the 1st

posted June 28, 2017 07:03 AM            

So then my career Asc would be in Leo, MC in Taurus with..
Sun/Mercury in 7th house
Moon in 11th
Saturn in 4th
NN in 10th

posted June 28, 2017 07:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Turn the chart around and make the Mc the 1st house, Asc the 4th, Ic the 7th and the new Mc will be the former 7th.

That is why the 7th is also known as "relationships with the public".

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Never heard of this.

Using this method my former Scorpio MC turns into a Leo MC, which is my VII natal house and also Leo is in VI at its firts degrees. Any suggestion about professions related to the Lion? It good be so nice being the next Queen of England.

posted June 28, 2017 07:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Mariamne Mara:

Never heard of this.

Using this method my former Scorpio MC turns into a Leo MC, which is my VII natal house and also Leo is in VI at its firts degrees. Any suggestion about professions related to the Lion? It good be so nice being the next Queen of England.

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Hi Mariamne,

i do have Leo MC natally, but haven`t yet fully expressed it! Certainly not the way it`s described! Usually it`s someone who`s the center of attention. The star of the show, so to speak. A person who`s generous, warm but also quiet "showy" and vain. Professions related to that are: being a VIP in general, actor, singer, entertainer, producer, director, but also people who are big in business.

But I think this method doesn`t work like that! Your natal MC isn`t in Leo. So you interpret it like.. "your profession will look and seem quiet glamourous to the outside world, whether this is actually the case or not." So you might have a youtube-channel or millions of followers on instagram, living "the good life", and people would be all jealous, while you`re actually working your ass off, and it`s all not that lucrative as it seems.

posted June 28, 2017 11:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Look at the chart as is in total. Be sure the sign on the Asc actually matches the person you are looking at. Houses don't matter until you've first looked at aspects. Pay particular attention to conjunctions and parallels, especially to the luminaries, which will always be points of emphasis indicating what a person's focal energies are and which must find outlet in their work.

For example, a person with Sun conjunct or parallel Mercury must have their mind involved in their work, their own thinking/communicating. If not, they'll need to pursue it on the side.

The 6th and 10th houses -- of an chart with an accurate, verified Asc -- are the places normally associated with vocation and career. Many persons will not have anything noticeable (other than sign on cusp) associated with the 10th house. Look to the 6th, then the 1st. The other two houses need to always be seen in the context of the 1st house once you know the Asc degree is accurate.

Understand the various rising sign personalities with sign quality and planetary aspect energies, how some combinations show leadership/management potential and some do not (more subordinate). That is the difference between someone going into nursing and someone going into nursing with administrative ability.

Lastly, look for what is implied by the Lunar Node axis. It must be compatible with that.

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So Kannon, having Sun exact parallel Venus would mean anything with art/beauty/fashion would be inclined? And Moon parallel Jupiter would mean travels, education, religion??

posted June 28, 2017 02:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Turn the chart around and make the Mc the 1st house, Asc the 4th, Ic the 7th and the new Mc will be the former 7th.

That is why the 7th is also known as "relationships with the public".

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posted June 28, 2017 04:43 PM            

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Originally posted by ana_bee:
@Aries23Degrees

So then my career Asc would be in Leo, MC in Taurus with..
Sun/Mercury in 7th house
Moon in 11th
Saturn in 4th
NN in 10th

How do I interpret that?
I find it so hard, to do interpretations for myself..

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Your natal Mc would be the proverbial 1st house and around the wheel we go to the proverbial 7th (natal Ic) and then the proverbial Mc would be the natal Dsc i.e So the natal Dsc is 10 houses from the natal Mc

To illustrate my point

You want to find out about your career

Mc=1st house cusp of Leo. This is it's nature at "face value".With your NN there, it may serve a spiritual value to you or "calling".

So Leo wants domination or to be seen in the spotlight in some way; either as an individual or as a leader. But visibility is a must. So you want to be the "face" of your career or put your stamp on what you do etc.

Moon is in the 11th and since 11th is 2nd house from the 10th,this is the income /rewards that come from the career.

The income may fluctuate or be susceptible to ups and downs and follow cyclical patterns(esp if Moon is in Cancer).

Your income may be influenced by trends or you may appeal to a certain niche group that waxes/wanes in demand.

Saturn in 4th= Dsc since the 4th house is 7th from the 10th. So this here are your clients/contacts with the public in as far as your career is concerned.

Your clients/contact with the public may require strict professionalism, formality and trust. They tend to be quite difficult/demanding of you.

You may even have older people as part of your clientele who expect outstanding service and are very critical if it is not given(especially if Saturn is in Cap/Aqua)etc.

Sun/Mercury in your natal 7th become your proverbial 10th. Since the 7th house is 10 houses away from the 10th.

This is the area of success and specific attention to accolades and attention that you will want in your career.

You may want to be individuated/recognized (Sun)for your brilliance(Merc)in your career. It may be important to you for you to stand out(Sun) in some way intellectual (Mercury)

If your Sun/Merc is debilitated,you may understate your abilities or doubt yourself. Mercury debilitated can often have you work behind someone who looks good because you are making them look so etc.

I myself have just discovered this and am trying it on for size.

posted June 28, 2017 04:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Mariamne Mara:

Never heard of this.

Using this method my former Scorpio MC turns into a Leo MC, which is my VII natal house and also Leo is in VI at its firts degrees. Any suggestion about professions related to the Lion? It good be so nice being the next Queen of England.

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Hi there,

The way I understand it is thus...

Your Scorpio Mc natal would turn to be your 1st house-as this is what you want to know about.

So your natal 7th will turn into your proverbial 10th(as you put). Since the 7th house is 10 houses away from the 10th.

So with regards to your career(Scorpio Mc), you want to be the boss in charge(Leo).

So yes, your career will involve Scorpio themes and the related ruler attributes.

But you will insist on being the boss(Leo) or have people working under you. You want to stand out as an individual in some way and not be running things from the background. You want to be seen etc.

posted June 28, 2017 04:57 PM            

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Originally posted by areesquivel:
This is very interesting, so if say i turn around starting from 7th to 1st house cause I want to know about my spouse, the 7th house which would be my ASC, what will it be? my spouse's partners? business? or represents me? this is where I have trouble, 8th could be HIS in laws or my family?

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For your partner, the 7th house is usually a signification natally. So in this case , you will turn the chart and make that the 1st

The natal Dsc becomes the proverbial 1st house

The natal 8th is now the proverbial 2nd(his resources). That is why the 8th is often also called "partners resources".

The natal 9th is now the proverbial 3rd(his siblings).

The natal 10th is now the proverbial 4th(his father/your father in law).

And around the wheel we go. So your natal 1st house will be his proverbial 7th(you are his partner) etc.

posted June 28, 2017 05:19 PM            

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Originally posted by ana_bee:
Here`s a link to my natal chart:

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/022702.html

Would you also take a relocation chart into account, when analyzing someone`s career potential?

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No. Stay focused on the natal and understand it fully. Your natal astrological influences were imprinted upon you when your consciousness transferred through the doorway into this dimension in the birth process and are lifelong. Changing your location does not change that imprint.

Conjunctions: Venus/Mars is the one to pay closer attention to because Sun & Mercury are so wide apart (8°). You can see from the cuspy condition of that conjunction that no house placements should be assumed accurate for either one.

We really cannot speak in terms of houses reliably in interpretation unless and until a thorough check has been done on the Asc degree itself above and beyond mere association with a specific time of birth, which does not itself guarantee an accurate Asc or house lines.

The general outline I gave you was just that -- general -- based on the impression that you were interested in learning how to read others' charts, not thinking about a single particular chart. There are some particulars here in your chart that would take me away from that general outline.

Your planets are splayed/splashed out, but not in adherence to either of those chart patterns. That is especially challenging to find a focus, because there is a general tendency with Moon in Gemini to be easily interested in many things, especially considering its sextile to Venus-Mars. So far this looks partly people-oriented, but also creative with the water/mutability.

Moon square Mercury indicates that your mind is pressed upon by cerebral reception and feeling patterns near the surface that you'll want playing into your intellect and communication. This indicates an emotive urge to communicate, not necessarily an ability for controlled reasoning. That is especially true with Moon closely opposite Uranus, which brings me to recommend that you not get involved in other's psychological problems face-to-face. With this aspect one is best focusing on the internal and domestic matters that bring you to good health -- unless you have some specific psychic gift that transcends the mundane problems of others and their potential effects upon you.

Consider the t-square of Mercury in Pisces as stem planet square to both Moon and Uranus. This is actually the standout feature of your chart, which indicates a somewhat varying, even volatile mental/emotional pattern that needs expression. I identify such patterns with urges to creativity -- not necessarily 'art' per se, but efforts in which your impulses have responsive leeway and are not constantly redirected by expectations or irritations from others.

I've taken the liberty to render a clearer version of your chart with these factors highlighted.

Sun [7S47] contra-parallel Mars [7N30] indicates an action-oriented, impulse-driven vitality that needs to move and act in order to stay interested in moving forward. I don't think sitting a lot in an office is necessarily a good thing for you, but that may be a matter of how you go about such jobs, taking breaks often, etc.

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But my NN is in Taurus.. Shouldn`t I move away from all the drama, to a more placid, harmonious existance? At least that`s what`s written everywhere, about NN in Taurus. Don`t involve yourself in other people`s problems and drama.. quit being so intense..etc. Not easy with so much Scorpio in one`s chart!

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This is what I'd like you to consider more. It is worth considering the overall orientation you want your life to be taking, eventually landing in a Taurean/Venusian stable context. That is not a starting place, but an orientation to ...

South Node is not a command to 'not' do something. It shows a familiarity, a strength to draw from in order to move forward. S.Node in Scorpio has a depth that cannot be ignored, and in fact your S.Node is parallel Saturn, so your capacity to take purpose seriously and take on work will help you move forward. Just don't get bogged down there. Let such experiences imply to you what strength you have to carry over into different kinds of efforts.

Taurus as a fixed sign is identified with the slow and long-term, but given your Moon in Gemini, rewards need to be seen in your efforts and enjoyed coming back to you rather than getting bogged down in the promise of a long-term significance that asks you to sacrifice rewards (Scorpio, water). Venus and the Venusian needs to experience goodness, beauty, and outward reward.

Another thing to consider: how you experience the aspect of Jupiter square Pluto. It appears to the second tightest aspect in your chart (after Venus-Mars) and could be very important in developing these insights. It also has an implied relationship to your Asc, at least on the Jupiter end, which was in direct motion on the day of your birth and could be a rectification/validation factor for the Asc.

Jupiter-Pluto aspects like these can give tremendous determination and resolve towards challenging long-term goals and such energies would be wasted if they don't take part in the work you do. It contains the potential to push forward confidently and tap into massive resources for ambitious projects. This points to an ability for risk-taking that is not appreciated in an institutional setting (unless maybe you're a speculative investor), but which is strong enough within you that you'll still act on it, possibly in an unhealthy way, if you cannot find an outlet for it in your work life. If it indeed is closely aligned with your actual Asc, then it cannot be ignored in the work you do. Otherwise, it becomes a fulcrum for drama.

Highlights so far ...
- Do something with creative latitude for your internal mental/emotive responsiveness.
- Do something challenging or something that allows you to set challenging goals, but which does not bog you down too long in the problems of others.
- Do something that allows you variety of movement and impulse.

There are some possible aspects involving the Midheaven, but I'd want full definitive confirmation of the Asc degree before rendering an interpretation upon which you might make life decisions.

posted July 03, 2017 04:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Turn the chart around and make the Mc the 1st house, Asc the 4th, Ic the 7th and the new Mc will be the former 7th.

That is why the 7th is also known as "relationships with the public".

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posted July 05, 2017 06:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Hi there,

The way I understand it is thus...

Your Scorpio Mc natal would turn to be your 1st house-as this is what you want to know about.

So your natal 7th will turn into your proverbial 10th(as you put). Since the 7th house is 10 houses away from the 10th.

So with regards to your career(Scorpio Mc), you want to be the boss in charge(Leo).

So yes, your career will involve Scorpio themes and the related ruler attributes.

But you will insist on being the boss(Leo) or have people working under you. You want to stand out as an individual in some way and not be running things from the background. You want to be seen etc.

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posted July 05, 2017 06:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Hi there,

The way I understand it is thus...

Your Scorpio Mc natal would turn to be your 1st house-as this is what you want to know about.

So your natal 7th will turn into your proverbial 10th(as you put). Since the 7th house is 10 houses away from the 10th.

So with regards to your career(Scorpio Mc), you want to be the boss in charge(Leo).

So yes, your career will involve Scorpio themes and the related ruler attributes.

But you will insist on being the boss(Leo) or have people working under you. You want to stand out as an individual in some way and not be running things from the background. You want to be seen etc.

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posted October 29, 2019 12:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Pereya:
I always look at the Ic sign. It shows the sphere where the person feels the happiest to work in.

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Agree, it'll give a sense of the environment the native is most comfortable working in.

MC points out what the native desires from doing the said work; the motivation, if you will.

I want to very much share from my older thread about careers:

The rulership chain that @Graham so generously showed me in the other thread shows the type of work the native would be a good fit for.

The first one starts in the 10th house. For example:

Leo 10th (Sun is Ruler)--> Sun is in the 10th House under Virgo ---> Virgo's ruler Mercury is in the 10th also under Virgo. There are no more rulerships to follow. Now start the next rulership:

The second chain starts in the 6th house. Example again:

Aries 6th House (Mars is Ruler)--> Mars in the 10th House under Virgo --> Virgo's ruler Mercury is also in the 10th house under Virgo. No more rulerships to follow.

With this basic information, @Graham suggested proof-reading as a job to satisfy the 10th House Virgo Mercury.