posted July 18, 2017 02:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Hemilla:
i have all omentioned and i am....not a nihilist

Not related but i like melancholy i enjoy the idea of melancholy, i am not melancholic but i just like melancholy as a concept and emotion

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posted July 18, 2017 07:13 PM            

There is a lot of wisdom in many of his quotations. I especially like this one:

"It is not a lack of love, but a lack of friendship that makes unhappy marriages."

It was the syphilis that really messed up his head and colored his writings so heavily later in life.

The origins of nihilism are so Russian that it is hard for westerners to get a good clear view of it unless we study Russian history. You could think of it as a product of the tensions of the last society to leave feudalism. For the serf or lover of justice and beauty who is beaten down by every ruling institution wherever they turn, it is understandable how nihilism could be born.

Note: this preceded the discovery of Pluto, so I think there is some room for debate as to its astrological significator. Some might argue it should be Uranus. It seems to have been born c. 1862 when Saturn was square Uranus.

posted July 25, 2017 11:11 AM            

Hypatia, why the moon in particular? What is it about that placement do you think that causes it?

posted July 25, 2017 12:52 PM            

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Originally posted by bananaz:
Interesting topic.

Hypatia, why the moon in particular? What is it about that placement do you think that causes it?

I have Neptune in Cap. My sun is in Pisces, along with 3 other planets, but not my moon. But I have total opposing views. I look for the meaning in everything. Just wondering what it is about the moon in Pisces. I'm curious to know if it has something to do with maybe Cancer since it rules the moon?

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I have met a number of people with moon in pisces and neptune in cancer that have such views so I started to notice a pattern and wanted to see if other people with these two placements feel this way. I have only noticed this pattern with this particular combination only.

posted July 25, 2017 12:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Yeah, Nietzsche was iconoclastic, but not really a nihilist. He gave off different impressions to different people, but he was far less cynical in his core perspective than many people think. He was pretty optimistic on a personal level, but threw such criticism at both modern science and religion that many are left with a much different impression of him.

There is a lot of wisdom in many of his quotations. I especially like this one:

"It is not a lack of love, but a lack of friendship that makes unhappy marriages."

It was the syphilis that really messed up his head and colored his writings so heavily later in life.

The origins of nihilism are so Russian that it is hard for westerners to get a good clear view of it unless we study Russian history. You could think of it as a product of the tensions of the last society to leave feudalism. For the serf or lover of justice and beauty who is beaten down by every ruling institution wherever they turn, it is understandable how nihilism could be born.

Note: this preceded the discovery of Pluto, so I think there is some room for debate as to its astrological significator. Some might argue it should be Uranus. It seems to have been born c. 1862 when Saturn was square Uranus.

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Very interesting, Russion origin!...

posted July 25, 2017 05:47 PM            

I respect all religions and different philosophical views. I have strong sense of moral and ethics.

posted July 25, 2017 08:12 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I meant Nihilism! LOL Typo, darn it!

Do all people with Neptune in Capricorn have nihilistic inclinations in their view of life? or is it just folks with moon in pisces and neptune in capricorn?

Do you consider yourself a nihilist and is your 9th house ruler neptune in capricorn? Or do you have moon in pisces with neptune in capricorn?

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No.

Not everybody with Neptune in Capricorn is a nihilist, as that would mean everyone born from late 1984 through early 1998 would be one, as well as people born in the first half of 1984 and the fall of 1998. Neptune in Capricorn does come off as extremely serious, but it is not nihilistic (I have it and while I'm not religious, I don't reject moral principles if they align with natural law). Here's a theory on nihilism:
http://pdftreatment.com/r/richardpublishing.com1.html

This guy attributes nihilism to a feminine Mars and masculine Pluto (from his book), though some of the most religious members of my family have that. However he mentions that having strong charges in other categories outside of judgment can neutralize those innate impulses (one of those family members has Sagittarius Moon, which definitely has some religious tendencies), which he explains when he talked about Chiune Sugimara, who has the "nihilist" pattern, yet allowed Jews to escape the Nazis.

posted July 26, 2017 12:52 PM            

Further my findings are that there is some correlation between Moon in pisces plus Neptune in capricorn and nihilism, naturally this does not mean everyone with this two placements are nihilist by any means and you still have to look at the rest of the chart. They were rhetorical questions to get you thinking socratically, not statements.

My responses clearly show I never thought everyone who has these two placements are nihilists, I was talking about an increased probability in it occurring with people that have these two placements and exploring that theory.

Perhaps this combo with a strong pluto influence can generate nihilistic views at some point in your life as people are always changing and evolving.

I am leaning more towards Kannon's finding that nihilism was born when Saturn was squaring Pluto than the theory you are talking about, a feminine mars and masculine venus.

posted July 26, 2017 02:05 PM            

I suppose there is a spectrum in nihilism. People can have some view of it, or an extreme view of it.

I don't like the idea of superiority. Who am I to decide what it means to be superior or inferior than something else.

posted July 31, 2017 04:55 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
^^ You can be a nihilist and have morals though. Is like that thinking that if you are not religious, you don't have morals. One does not negate the other.

Further my findings are that there is some correlation between Moon in pisces plus Neptune in capricorn and nihilism, naturally this does not mean everyone with this two placements are nihilist by any means and you still have to look at the rest of the chart. They were rhetorical questions to get you thinking socratically, not statements.

My responses clearly show I never thought everyone who has these two placements are nihilists, I was talking about an increased probability in it occurring with people that have these two placements and exploring that theory.

Perhaps this combo with a strong pluto influence can generate nihilistic views at some point in your life as people are always changing and evolving.

I am leaning more towards Kannon's finding that nihilism was born when Saturn was squaring Pluto than the theory you are talking about, a feminine mars and masculine venus.

Again nihilism does not equal "no morals" but since people are reacting like its an insult it makes me like nihilists more at least they don't look down on others and think they are better bc they "have morals." From my experience observing and studying human behavior everyone has a dark side, just some people are less aware of it and repress it more and it comes out in other ways like feeling superior to others for example...

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posted August 03, 2017 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by moongaze:
Pisces Moon sextiles Capricorn Neptune. Also have a tight Moon/Mercury/Pluto Grand water trine.

I suppose I have nihilistic tendencies, but I wouldn't say I currently am one or ever was one to begin with. I was much more cynical as a teen compared to now, but was never totally nihilistic. However, I do believe life has no meaning and also do not believe in a higher power of any kind. I do think it would be best if people create their own meaning in life and enjoy their time on Earth while they can. I guess I would consider myself more of an Existentialist in that case if I had to give my philosophy a label.

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