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harmonicvibes
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posted August 09, 2017 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for harmonicvibes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have a history in 2015 short one where we did have sex....he initiated it was the one to pursue. Back then I was mad and said he only used me for sex, I was always on that kick.....

Now 2017 he is back in the country living asks me to come live with him after a year few months I'm over the moon happy to see him again, I know he goes back home in 6 months but want to savor time we have. I know there cannot be any real committment with him having go home again so I figured fun, live together, sex, then that's it. Casual at same time. He is last person I had sex with....

The 1st night was great we stayed up till 5 am had drinks I was laying on couch he did slap my butt, then when bedtime we decided go to bed I asked if he wanted me sleep with him he said obviously so in bed he reached up under my camisole to touch my breast it was quick he said you can touch me too...but I didn't just went to sleep. I felt he should kept it going...I don't initiate or pursue in bed The 2nd night I lay down I tell him goodnight he says whatever in a rude way. Then after that night....I decide to start sleeping on the couch from that point on... the 3rd night I do think he said why you sleeping in here, when I was on the couch.. But I am not sure as I said what he didn't repeat it....


So I'm confused he took initiative before why didn't he now you know? Not only that....this time around I understand this had to be casual thing....back then I wanted the full long term commitment girlfriend title. This I undertook this to be kinda like....playing house but no string attached

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posted August 09, 2017 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by harmonicvibes:
We have a history in 2015 short one where we did have sex....he initiated it was the one to pursue. Back then I was mad and said he only used me for sex, I was always on that kick.....

Now 2017 he is back in the country living asks me to come live with him after a year few months I'm over the moon happy to see him again, I know he goes back home in 6 months but want to savor time we have. I know there cannot be any real committment with him having go home again so I figured fun, live together, sex, then that's it. Casual at same time. He is last person I had sex with....

The 1st night was great we stayed up till 5 am had drinks I was laying on couch he did slap my butt, then when bedtime we decided go to bed I asked if he wanted me sleep with him he said obviously so in bed he reached up under my camisole to touch my breast it was quick he said you can touch me too...but I didn't just went to sleep. I felt he should kept it going...I don't initiate or pursue in bed The 2nd night I lay down I tell him goodnight he says whatever in a rude way. Then after that night....I decide to start sleeping on the couch from that point on... the 3rd night I do think he said why you sleeping in here, when I was on the couch.. But I am not sure as I said what he didn't repeat it....


So I'm confused he took initiative before why didn't he now you know? Not only that....this time around I understand this had to be casual thing....back then I wanted the full long term commitment girlfriend title. This I undertook this to be kinda like....playing house but no string attached


Can I ask what his Moon is in? And what is your Sun and Moon as well? Is there Pisces or Cancer (or Neptune aspects) involved in his chart? Surface wise I would assume he has someone at home, and that is his reason for perhaps being coy. But I have also experienced guys who have (esp) a masculine Sun and Mars (outward expression of being a man) behave VERY differently when feelings come into the equation (esp if the moon is a more docile or sensitive placement). That could explain the difference in behavior from before (pre-feelings to now having feelings) This can be the case as well.

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posted August 09, 2017 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for harmonicvibes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are friends on Facebook his status is single....his ex girlfriend is not in his page he does have an ex in his country.


His moon is in pisces and my moon is in Leo I'm sun saggi

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posted August 09, 2017 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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...[b]something a Gemini Mars would do. Either way if he is not throwing thinly veiled sexual remarks or pushing the envelope[quote] in your talks I would take that as a sign. The key word is he is communicating (Gemini) his desires or fantasies (Mars) in some way or capacity.

This is true, in my experience, of BOTH Mars & Venus in Gemini. Mars, of course, is direct. Venus is indirect almost yielding.

Voice: Think I'll have a Cesar Salad for lunch. I hope it satisfies.

Mars in Gemini: I know something that will satisfy you.
Venus in Gemini: I don't know what will satisfy you, Voice.

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posted August 09, 2017 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hmmm I'm not sure if i agree with the Gemini Mars needs someone to initiate lovemaking. Mars represents what a man is, but is not what he desires (although I do think they are one and the same to an extent).

There was a thread on here called: The Male Organ and Astrology. In that thread researchers sought for correlations between a man's size and his chart. Findings were inconclusive.

Based off that thread I launched my own research, not for size, but for rhythm and overall performance. My findings were that Mars in Gemini were made for the modern take-charge woman who likes being on top.

Mars in Aries is fast and furious.
Mars in Taurus steady, and likes being in charge.
Mars in Gemini has other talents, and is at his best under her.

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posted August 09, 2017 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was testing the waters and you went to sleep. Be bold or forget it. Smack his rear. lol Flirt!!! Be obvious.

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posted August 09, 2017 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for harmonicvibes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He does have mars in Gemini also...moon piscez, mars gemini, sun and Venus libra.


I just can't believe he would not be aggressive as he was before when I knew him in 2015

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posted August 09, 2017 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
awww! You've invoked his moon.

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posted August 09, 2017 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for harmonicvibes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The moon in pisces? Lol how so

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posted August 09, 2017 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mystic Melody:
He was testing the waters and you went to sleep. Be bold or forget it. Smack his rear. lol Flirt!!! Be obvious.

Lol I agree. Harmonicvibes, it actually sounds like he thinks you don't want him!

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posted August 09, 2017 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces men are passive... so if he is responding to you with his moon/emotion now then he will be more passive. When he starts feeling his masculinity again you will get the Gemini Mars.
Mars is also used in fighting though... and as Linda Goodman says, Gemini has this perverse way of pretending like he doesn't like the one he likes the most. Something like that. I think it is in Sun Signs. I'll look.

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posted August 09, 2017 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"An excellent example of Geminian duality of expression is the confession of a
woman who was exposed to it. The Mercury-ruled man was a producer, and the
woman was a famous, dark-haired Pisces actress. After a weekend party with
friends as the guest of the Gemini on his boat, during which he was openly insulting, rude and aloof to her, by turns, the actress was dismayed and puzzled.
Later, she made the remark, "I don't know what's wrong with him. He must hate me.
I've never done anything to him, yet he hardly spoke a word to me all weekend."
Ah, but don't you see, she had done something to him.
She had made him fall in love with her. The emotion was serious enough for him to marry her soon after the incident. But how did he react to his first knowledge of a feeling of tenderness toward her? As though she were Lucretia Borgia.
Her experience probably won't keep you from leaping into a romance with a Mercury man. Still, it might soothe the wounds of a few of you girls who have been suffering from the cold actions of a Gemini who's probably helplessly in love with you and cleverly concealing it for his own, unfathomable reasons. Geminis have an unconscious urge to disguise their true intent, to fence with others verbally and cloak their motives with dual actions. In general, they seek to confuse you. Then with true Geminian inconsistency, they'll turn right around and be so direct, they'll fairly take your breath away with their frankness and bluntness. "

~Linda Goodman's Sun Signs: The Gemini Man


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posted August 09, 2017 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OP, I can't speak to how a Mars in Gem is sexually. The only one I've known in person, caused me a lot of grief for years. His Mars was conjunct my Moon/Venus/SN, and square my Mars. He also supposedly had Moon in Pisces. He would hit on me, even though he was involved with a family member (and they are now married). I don't know why he ever thought I'd be receptive - I'm especially not receptive to someone hurting me, or someone I love (or anyone, really).

I have a lovely friend from LL, who is Mars in Gem, Moon in Pisces, and can't see her ever being that way, though.

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posted August 10, 2017 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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All in all I have no idea how old you are but seriously life is far too short to waste it wondering if a guy wants you or not. I'm sure you're gorgeous so if he doesnt want to partake in the awesomeness that is you and just wants to give you money or whatever, find someone else who will give you what you want. Their are tons of great guys out there. Or if this works for you fine. Cheers!


GG, that's the best advice I've yet to read on this forum.

Time wasted fretting over distressed relationships
is better spent cleaning one's own closets.

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posted August 10, 2017 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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GG, that's the best advice I've yet to read on this forum.

Time wasted fretting over distressed relationships
is better spent cleaning one's own closets.


I tend to agree. But it really does sound like a simple communication issue, which may or may not be worth fixing.

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posted August 10, 2017 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also think people approach life in different ways. Those of us with enhanced Air might find more value in deciphering the psychology of a relationship and determining how to repair and/or create mental (and physical/emotional/spiritual) bonds. Predominantly Earth people might find more obvious value in mowing their partner's lawn. Predominantly Fire might find more initial value in just moving ahead in a relationship and seeing what happens. Water would find initial value in nurturing and demonstrating their care. But entities of all energies seem to benefit from a more holistic approach to relationships where all approaches are used in a more balanced manner. This balance may be the only way to discover the true potential of any relationship. (Says the Libra Sun/Venus/Uranus.)


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posted August 10, 2017 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I also think people approach life in different ways. Those of us with enhanced Air might find more value in deciphering the psychology of a relationship and determining how to repair and/or create mental (and physical/emotional/spiritual) bonds. Predominantly Earth people might find more obvious value in mowing their partner's lawn. Predominantly Fire might find more initial value in just moving ahead in a relationship and seeing what happens. Water would find initial value in nurturing and demonstrating their care. But entities of all energies seem to benefit from a more holistic approach to relationships where all approaches are used in a more balanced manner. This balance may be the only way to discover the true potential of any relationship. (Says the Libra Sun/Venus/Uranus.)



I agree to an extent....BUT I'm coming from this at a perspective of what's actually psychologically healthy in the long run for an individual (not trying to be rude) minus the astrology of it. I have a psychology background and while it is 100% valuable to analyze all situations you find yourself in (like you listed above) to an extent; the only behavior you can change is yours. Analyzing someone else's behavior or lack of is not only a potential self esteem drainer, it keeps an individual focused on things other than the reality of the situation. Or what you can control in a situation.

In the case of this particular woman, he may actually be quite passive due to his Pisces Moon. But let's not discount this is a grown man (I assume not a teenager) who is quite aware of how to go after a woman. I get the approach to analyze things from a balanced perspective (7th house Mooner), but time and time again we as humans (no matter what your sign) tend to display certain behaviors at certain times. Especially in regards to motivation.

At face value his behavior is crystal clear. Obviously we don't know for sure, but this girl being heavily Fire picked up that something is amiss between them and that is not something she should ignore.

All I am saying is she should express her thoughts and feelings to him, trust her gut and go from there. And realize that he may not feel the same, and accept it. Either way I'm sure she is really awesome, and no matter what she does not deserve a guy who makes her question his interest or attraction to the point she posts on an astrology forum (which isn't bad as I've done this many times...but usually when you are posting here it's not for positive reasons even though I wish it was...but even I knew this). And indecisive Libra or not when a person wants something or someone they go after it.

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posted August 10, 2017 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for harmonicvibes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see this forum full of questions...as this so I don't understand girly what your issue is.....if it bothers you what ppl post don't come on here....I like astrology, analyzing it studying it and studying ppl if I want to come here like NUMEROUS others do and ask questions I can.

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posted August 10, 2017 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I agree to an extent....BUT I'm coming from this at a perspective of what's actually psychologically healthy in the long run for an individual (not trying to be rude) minus the astrology of it. I have a psychology background and while it is 100% valuable to analyze all situations you find yourself in (like you listed above) to an extent; the only behavior you can change is yours. Analyzing someone else's behavior or lack of is not only a potential self esteem drainer, it keeps an individual focused on things other than the reality of the situation. Or what you can control in a situation.

In the case of this particular woman, he may actually be quite passive due to his Pisces Moon. But let's not discount this is a grown man (I assume not a teenager) who is quite aware of how to go after a woman. I get the approach to analyze things from a balanced perspective (7th house Mooner), but time and time again we as humans (no matter what your sign) tend to display certain behaviors at certain times. Especially in regards to motivation.

At face value his behavior is crystal clear. Obviously we don't know for sure, but this girl being heavily Fire picked up that something is amiss between them and that is not something she should ignore.

All I am saying is she should express her thoughts and feelings to him, trust her gut and go from there. And realize that he may not feel the same, and accept it. Either way I'm sure she is really awesome, and no matter what she does not deserve a guy who makes her question his interest or attraction to the point she posts on an astrology forum (which isn't bad as I've done this many times...but usually when you are posting here it's not for positive reasons even though I wish it was...but even I knew this). And indecisive Libra or not when a person wants something or someone they go after it.


I mostly agree with you. I knew all of this before, but when I was involved in what was ultimately a demoralizing relationship - not even a proper relationship, I can't explain it - that's what started a downward spiral for me, before other things blew up in my personal life (thanks to that Mars in Gemini that I mentioned).

I remember someone saying that they wouldn't have gone out with their husband, if she hadn't been the one to ask him out, though - at least, not as soon as they did.

I am a fire girl, though, and I know that being in a position where you're questioning feelings isn't a good thing. At one point, I just asked, "Are we going to do this, or not?!"

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posted August 10, 2017 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for harmonicvibes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your a fire sign I am as well fire sag fire leo...so yeah I understand what you are saying...I just did not understand why it had to be so damn difficult...

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posted August 10, 2017 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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your a fire sign I am as well fire sag fire leo...so yeah I understand what you are saying...I just did not understand why it had to be so damn difficult...

I understand what you were saying, too. I've said similar things myself, in the past - but it was more me realizing that people might not listen to certain advice, because they are so entrenched in something emotionally (I was, myself - I still am, only not in a relationship).

If this guy is messing with her head, then she will realize it eventually. Or if there's something there, he's going to have to step up and let her know.

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posted August 10, 2017 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
There was a thread on here called: The Male Organ and Astrology. In that thread researchers sought for correlations between a man's size and his chart. Findings were inconclusive.

Based off that thread I launched my own research, not for size, but for rhythm and overall performance. My findings were that Mars in Gemini were made for the modern take-charge woman who likes being on top.

Mars in Aries is fast and furious.
Mars in Taurus steady, and likes being in charge.
Mars in Gemini has other talents, and is at his best under her.


Omg!!! You had me at research lol!!! Ok now I'm super interested...what were your findings overall? Have you done other studies? Have you written about them...maybe even on here would be great. Are you studying anything else?

I ask because I was wondering about Uranus in relation to Composites. So my hypothesis of sorts is that harsh Uranus in the Composite to multiple planets (for instance Conjunct Sun, Venus and Mercury or whatever) in which the couple is not shocking or out the norm (via either being different races, ethnicities, religions, age, open, etc) tend to dissolve much more quickly than ones in which there is something out of the norm with the couple. For instance I think that a couple who marry and live in the suburbs with a dog and feature Sun and Moon Conjunct Uranus would be more likely to last if they have a large age difference or are of different religions and races. The opposite of that would be if none of those differences are there that relationship is more likely to last a short amount of time.

Anyway I wanted to research this

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posted August 10, 2017 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I see this forum full of questions...as this so I don't understand girly what your issue is.....if it bothers you what ppl post don't come on here....I like astrology, analyzing it studying it and studying ppl if I want to come here like NUMEROUS others do and ask questions I can.

Harmonic, my large response was in very small part about you, but keep in mind I did not quote you. It was in response to Mystic and her whole point made.

Let me be very clear this does not bother me what you are doing. Posting about people is great, to an extent. And I've done it a WHOLE WHOLE lot lol and the others posting in this topic can corroborate that. And yes astrology is a tool and can be great. But don't get bogged down in the factors of his sign to figure out his behavior. And I've done that. But trust me it's not healthy. And I've had some awesome posters on here tell me (more like remind me lol) the same (everytime it happens lol).

I wholeheartedly suggest you either talk to him and express yourself and find out where he is coming from or you accept where you are. And again I'm not trying to come off harsh (my Mer is Square Pluto so I can be quite passionate in speech), but I do come from a psych background and will always be as honest and unbiased as I can be. Cheers!

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posted August 10, 2017 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Omg!!! You had me at research lol!!! Ok now I'm super interested...what were your findings overall?

Findings weren't released. Not sure if my research is complete because I've only looked at men, and I believe both genders should be looked to come to anything conclusive.

*Generally Aqua men were consistently good (irregardless of Mars placement) across the board. With too much Air might be sadistic, especially when paired with Libra.

*If you're looking for a Mars placement that will take charge and have its way with you. Mars in Gemini is not that placement.

*Libra energy has a sadistic side. It is an energy that will take out its frustrations on you sexually, while this can be satisfying with others, with Libra placements things can become quite un-tingly and painful...this, of course, when they're upset. As poised as they are you won't know this until you're in the sack.

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Have you done other studies? Have you written about them...maybe even on here would be great. Are you studying anything else?

Still working on an Astrology of the Lottery experiment.


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posted August 10, 2017 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I understand what you were saying, too. I've said similar things myself, in the past - but it was more me realizing that people might not listen to certain advice, because they are so entrenched in something emotionally (I was, myself - I still am, only not in a relationship).

If this guy is messing with her head, then she will realize it eventually. Or if there's something there, he's going to have to step up and let her know.


This....you're so right in what you're saying. I have a Cap/Aqua friend who is similar but expresses herself a heck of a lot less passionately than I do lol. And I've been where she is literally on here getting feedback and help from you guys either way it either works out or it doesn't.

I also can see both sides, and that it should be easy. I'm also quite fire like with Sun and Mars in the 1st (I want what I want). I solved that issue for me by making what I want known and a man either steps up or I move on...my Mer in Leo and Sun Conjunct Asc refuses to wait after I've made what I want known and he doesn't take the bait lol. Cheers!

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