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Ami Anne
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posted September 14, 2017 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I, always, think about charts–mine, my family and those of my clients. I have an 11th House Pluto. I will not compromise to a group–any group. When I was in college, I did not join a sorority because I did not think I was strong enough to stand up. One of the books that influenced me most was “Last Summer” by Evan Hunter. I read all his books when I was in high school. Books were my oasis of sanity. Authors, usually, tell the truth. If not, they would not be read.

My family lied about everything. “Last Summer” was about teens who compromised in order to be socially accepted. I vowed never to do that.I have run away to avoid it, but I have not done it. I have Pluto in the house of GROUPS. I am strong in groups. I lead several,large FB groups and if you can’t stand up for yourself, I won’t help you,in most cases. You have to learn. If not, you will need someone, always, to be on your side. What if they are not there? My larger point is that I am strong in my house of Pluto and you, likely, are the same. Let’s look at Pluto in the houses.

Pluto in the 1st House
This person looks large and in charge, even if he or she is petite and Southern. There is, usually, the Pluto stare, which is akin to a Rotweiller when you enter his yard. The native may or may not be strong in other life areas, but he will exude a powerful presence which is perfect for a cop or any profession that demands respect. One of my clients is an English professor and she has this placement. Students respect her.

Pluto in the 2nd House

This native will be strong in the area of money. Pluto, also, brings drama to the house in which it resides, so the native may have financial ups and downs. However, lessons of toughness and maturity will be learned in the financial arena.

Pluto in the 3nd House

This native is famous for speaking her mind. I don’t know if Howard Stern has this, but he would be classic for it. I respect a person who can stand up for what he believes and weather the storms from others who do not have the same courage, which is, usually, the place from which the storms arise. This native will get sick if he cannot speak the truth. I have seen this, too. The House of Pluto is a very important part of the chart. If someone is stopped from expressing his strength, he may suffer physical and/or emotional illnes. Problems such as depression may result.

Pluto in the 4th House
This native seems to have grown up in a violent home. That is what I have observed from doing charts. The violence may be overt or a simmering sense of danger. This is a sad placement. The native never seems to really get over it, from my experience. Actually, I think we take many of our struggles with us through our entire life. I know the “good fairy” astrologers think people can overcome everything. I don’t think this is true from what I have observed.

Pluto in the 5th House

This native seems to have mucho drama in romance. In fact, I have never not seen this be the case. Relationships follow a tidal wave pattern of great ups and downs. I am not sure what he learns from this. I just know that this is what seems to happen. If you see a mild mannered dude whom you think would be vanilla but he has this placement, think again.

Pluto in the 6th House

This is not a fortunate placement. I tell it like it is because you deserve the truth. If someone does not like truth, please, be my guest and don’t read me. This placement may bring suffering with illnesses. It does not, always, have to be. I don’t want to say that, but this placement does seem to bring suffering,both emotional and physical. If you have it, please, share with us, so we can all learn.

Pluto in the 7th House

This is one of the harder placements. Marriage seems to be filled with ups and downs, through no fault of the native. The house of Pluto is not something a person can really change. He needs to ride with it. IF the House in which Pluto resides in your chart is not filled with ups and downs, I suspect your chart is wrong. I believe this to be the case with the house of Chiron, too. Will the person learn life lessons from this Pluto placement? I am not sure. Sometimes, our pain, simply, leaves us with pain and little wisdom. I think we can learn wisdom from our pain, though.

Pluto in the 8th House
Pluto likes to be in the 8th House. It is his home. Hence, this native has a dark side which he can use to good advantage. This is an excellent position for a detective, an FBI profiler and an author of dark books, such as Stephen King or Michael Connelly,two of my favorite writers. I don’t know if they have this placement, but their writing would be examples of an 8th House Pluto. This native is likely very perceptive. There is not much downside to an 8th House Pluto. The native will, also, likely, be comfortable with sexuality and his other primal passions.( I am jealous because I have Saturn in Scorpio, which is the opposite, but that is a story for another day)

Pluto in the 9th House

I have a 9th House stellium, so understand the 9th House. It is the house of the intellect. It is the house of higher education, long distance travel and the house of God. For the native with Pluto here, there is, likely, drama in one of the above.The native may drop in and out of school. The native may join a cult. The native may have been a hard core rocker who became a Born Again Christian, like Alice Cooper. How cool is that? I don’t know if he has this placement but the huge shake up in philosophy would be classic for it.

Pluto in the 10th House

This native seems to have career tidal waves, through no fault of his own. He may rise to CEO, lose it all and rise again. He may have a social reputation that rises and falls. Whatever is the case, this native will not, likely, have an easy ride when it comes to his place in society.

Pluto in the 11th House
This is mine, as I said. The 11th House is many different things. It is the house of hopes and dreams, service in faraway places, such as that of a missionary and the house of groups. It seems to be the house of groups in most of the charts I do. Hence, this native will have shake ups in one(usually) of these areas.

Pluto in the 12th House

This native seems to be Shirley Temple with a shiv. I heard that said about a guy who walked around with a plastic smile on his face, but would knife you behind your back. I am NOT saying all these natives are like this. I know many that most are not. I am very close to a 12th House Pluto and she is as sweet as pie.She has never knifed me and I have known her for many, many years. However, they all seem to really repress their primal passions. It is, usually, for fear of these strong passions and what will result if they “let them go”. The 12th House suppresses that which resides within.


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posted September 14, 2017 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, I have pluto in my 1st house conjunct my moon and square my sun . Cancer sun and moon in libra?

I do have the stare or piercing eyes thing, not everyone but other people mention it from time to time.

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posted September 14, 2017 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have an 11th house pluto in Libra, in Placidus. 12th in Equal and koch.

I can compromise, unless I have specific reasons not to. I'm a follower, if I choose to be. I'm not keen on the responsibility of being a leader. Too much pressure. Of course, there's just as much pressure going it alone.

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posted September 15, 2017 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in 11th house.

It brings love and hate to/from the groups.

I also can compromise in the group, and yes, unless I have specific reasons not to.

I always avoid being a leader in a group because I can be too strong for some people and may shake the group up or, hmm, well, love and hate from people/group are strong. The intensity it may bring, I don't like it. So, most of the time I prefer to be a follower.

I was once a leader of a group project and I greatly disappointed with the group although we got an A. I was capable of the responsibility but the feeling of being taken for granted from the group, it sucked. I ended up doing all the project alone as none could deliver their tasks on time although I had given the instructions to each and contacted them regularly to remind them of the project should be sent two days before the deadline. I always had a back-up and I had predicted the situation, but still it sucked when people knew you were good but they took your goodness for granted. I felt cheated. lol.

Pluto in 11th house, the drama often occurs within group of friends. I have read somewhere that this placement can attract a friend who will stab you or plotting something against you behind your back but still in your circle of friends to watch you. It's scary but I have been betrayed by my own friends, the close one or some in the same group, although I don't do anything to them.

I value friendship highly so pluto in 11th house can hurt me deeply but also transforming.

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posted September 15, 2017 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great posts. Thank you, Guys!

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posted September 15, 2017 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me: Pluto 2H Libra sq Sun, Moon, Mercury. Yes, financial ups and downs but I like it because it makes me STRONG and I have learned to survive on nothing. Literally! I am also a sucker for anything "Venus". I cannot stand bad quality clothing, bags, cars. I rather spend a fortune on one thing than many things of lesser quality. I also, always, think about resale value should I need money quickly.

Husband: Virgo Pluto 7H opp. Venus. I do NOT envy this position as he has a tendency to attract absolutely insane people, especially women. His ex wife is a psychopath and I'm not saying that only because I'm wifey numero 2. Her records with numerous shrinks will confirm my thoughts and I only know about them through court order :-/
Like me, he is very "Venus" but in his case it's more about physical beauty which sometime annoys the sh1t out of me LOL
Nothing will pass his eyes and he'll notice even the smallest gray hair on a person.

I also know someone with pluto in 6H which doesn't seem as an altohether pleasant placement. She is obssessed with rituals, cleaning herself to the point of skin bleeding and becoming distraught if everything is not done the exact way she want them to be done.

I am assuming that Pluto is not only negatives though.

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posted September 15, 2017 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 15, 2017 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lion-I     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in 12th house conjunct great attractor and Chiron. The TV show Legion describes me well. I am also afraid of my power and get pushed around a lot even though I am physically imposing. It's a weird sense of compassion for my enemies because I know I could do real damage to them deep down. I woke up to the world since 10 years old and have Been trying to find ways to access my power. I found out the only way to do this is through emotional healing. I have what you might call a superman complex of holding back a lot in my expression.

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Natal Pluto in 7th-Betrayal by a close acquaintance.A spouse cheating on me with someone very close to me. Distrust of those closest to me. Distrust in "love". Keeping people at arms length. Fear of trusting those close.

Pluto transiting the 9th- distrust "God", disbelief, loss of faith in things being divine, doubting religion, doubting what belief is, turning ones back on theories of a religious nature."God" is revisited and re-invented.


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posted September 15, 2017 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, we can see how powerful Pluto is in a house!

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I have a Scorpio stellium in the 6th,
including Pluto.

Jupiter is in Scorpio at 0 degrees on my 6th house cusp conjunct my stellium.

I have a Sun-Pluto conjunction in the 6th in Scorpio.

Libra rules my 6th,
Venus is located in my 6th. In Scorpio.


Pluto rules my 7th.

My life is VERY routine, practical.

I do have a crazy Uranian layer underneath, though.

Uranus makes aspects to all of my personal planets except Venus.


As far as suffering, definitely but I try not to see it that way.

The number 6 also represents equality in its most purest form. Balance. I would think I'm a diamond in the rough.

My life has been full of intense experience but I equate that more with my overly-active mars.

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posted September 19, 2017 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Natal Pluto in 7th-Betrayal by a close acquaintance.A spouse cheating on me with someone very close to me. Distrust of those closest to me. Distrust in "love". Keeping people at arms length. Fear of trusting those close.

Pluto transiting the 9th- distrust "God", disbelief, loss of faith in things being divine, doubting religion, doubting what belief is, turning ones back on theories of a religious nature."God" is revisited and re-invented.


Thank you Aries 23, I forgot about this but a guy I know shows a strong pluto theme. I know my pluto in the 1st gives me the piercing eye thing but they seem like everyone has done them wrong or everyone is against them. I don't see things like this with family and friends , yet I do not know them like they do. I am not saying this is your case but I do wander if this is why he seems like this, not really sure. Thing is I really am for them, they just do all these things that can put me off and although I am honest with them and stand my ground, speak the truth. I would never hurt them intentionally or betray them in the way that they think. Just don't know what to make of everything but nothing I can do about it but love them from a distance and pray for them.

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posted September 21, 2017 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Natal Pluto in 7th-Betrayal by a close acquaintance.A spouse cheating on me with someone very close to me. Distrust of those closest to me. Distrust in "love". Keeping people at arms length. Fear of trusting those close.

Pluto transiting the 9th- distrust "God", disbelief, loss of faith in things being divine, doubting religion, doubting what belief is, turning ones back on theories of a religious nature."God" is revisited and re-invented.


I just ended a relationship with my best friend that has this (Pluto in Scp, conj his DSC, in the 7th)...

He always kept in me an arm's length... completely emotionally unavailable. Always projecting but completely unaware of it... (My Venus in Scp conj this... so I'm ok with the dark side of people)

And I just kept thinking about Pluto in his 7th and thinking pertaining to him... "you are going to alienate yourself" if you keep this up...

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