posted September 21, 2017 10:31 PM            

However I just read one astrologer's take on his experience with it (while it was happening - not sure what he might say about it now in perspective) and it was very disturbing. I've already had an emotionally, mentally painful and physically challenging year, with ample destruction in pretty much all areas of my life. I am also going through a Saturn Return.

Here is what HE said: http://astrohawk11.blogspot.com/2015/06/what-it-means-to-have-transit-pluto.html

posted September 22, 2017 03:46 AM            

At some point or another, Pluto moved through my moon (Which I'm in the process of figuring out exactly where that is with Kannon's help), and with the most likely guesses, it began aspecting my moon about September 2014 and finished in November of 2016. Not to mention, this entire time it was opposing my sun as well (100% sure of that). My natal Saturn was mostly unaspected during the exact conjunctions of Pluto.

I did not experience the same pain he mentioned. I did experience a lot of change, and all it took was a little flexibility and understanding to deal with. The thing is - Pluto will make you understand that you're vulnerable whether you like it or not. It's hard to come to terms with, but it's just true. I have always been emotionally self-sufficient, so Pluto really had nothing to take from me there :/ My best friend had to leave for a year, starting when Pluto began to transit, and my friend groups changed entirely.

You know what? Thinking back, I changed completely. Didn't even recognize it. It wasn't painful. It was completely liberating actually! I became so much more honest with myself at this time, and I brightened my attitude and perspective, making the choice to believe in only the best for myself. Anybody who wasn't in my best interest was cut off. Anybody who I couldn't be myself with was cut off. I did a lot of rearranging of both who I was and who I wanted to be. Looking back, I was rather uncompromising and stepped on a lot of toes, but I did everything in my best interest during those two years. I took that time to be selfish, and it felt fantastic because I had spent my entire life compromising up until then. I wouldn't say I lost anything. I'd say I upgraded.

I did have more fights with my family during this time period, but I'd say that's precisely because I chose to be less compromising and was changing in many ways that my family wasn't accustomed to. I actually moved just around the time Pluto conjuncted my moon on its way out from retrograde. So, my entire family and friend group changed that time.

If you take the route I did and become selfish, get ready to apologize afterwards. I certainly did.

The thing is - don't get too comfortable with what you have, and certainly don't cling to it. When it changes, accept it and move on. Pluto will pull the rug from under you, and you just have to accept and appreciate the new perspective with the world upside down.

Change is not bad, and that's coming from someone with traditional luminaries. It's an opportunity. If it conjuncts your moon, get ready to be flooded with an uncompromising and intense energy. Like everything in astrology, it's a potential, and you have the ultimate decision in how you sublimate that energy.

posted September 22, 2017 11:22 AM            

Right now it is opposing my Jupiter, or closing in on it. I feel it. Everything is upended. After it finishes that it will conjunct my moon, then oppose my Sun.

It's going to be a long several years.
Jupiter 19Cancer
Moon 23 Capricorn
Sun 26 Cancer
*I should add I have a Scorpio ASC so I really like Pluto influence

Good news is that it will be trining my Mars for a lot of this, so that's helpful. And no squares. Oppositions are enough.

I second what was said before. Expect a lot of upheaval and change. I am welcoming the change. It's moving through my @nd house so it's affecting my material belongings and values. I am being forced to move homes and buy one now, which is something I have wanted but was hoping to wait. I have gone without child support for some time and experienced increased responsibilities across several facets of my life at the same time. My values and beliefs are definitely being challenged, but it's strengthening me. As hard as some of this has been, I consistently find myself growing and liking who I am.

posted September 22, 2017 03:22 PM            

I am undergoing the last pass of Pluto within 5° of my natal Moon (12CAP08). The heaviness or intensity of what you experience with this transit also depends upon:

- Where the Moon is in sequence with other natal points. In other words, what did Pluto transit previous to the Moon?

- What you've been doing in the previous years related to taking chart of your life and developing and growing at depth.

The author whose article is linked above has the basic principles right, but is describing personal experience with the frequent reliance on words 'death' and phrases like 'totally destroys' (emotional foundations). That might be true for some, but let's remember the planets do not do things 'to us', but offer windows of opportunity for growth and change. How will we work with them?

I'll give you some examples from my own life.

Using a 5° orb, this transit first started for me in March 2011, the month my wife (then fiancee) and I got our first apartment together. We got married two months later at the end of May. So right there is an illustration of Pluto's reforming action upon my Moon (domestic/emotional life).

My mother has gone through serious health problems during this period and it took redoubling of my efforts to help relieve her pain (with natural medicine) and get her significant relief that MDs could not get her. Also related to Pluto-Moon.

During this period I've had some old emotional baggage come to the surface, control issues (Capricorn), but have also been able to rekindle my writing creativity. However, that is due as much to Neptune transits. Pluto-Moon deals in emotional structures that are hard to get at due to their roots being at the pre-verbal level.

Along with that, gallabladder problems (a polyp I've controlled through dietary change and herbs), and arthritis/rhuematism due to a prior toenail fungus I let get out of control.

I'm not completely clear of this transit yet, so I'm in a learning process that began with a healing process with prior Pluto transits over the previous decade. What is fortunate for me is that the very end point of this transit (17° Capricorn) puts Pluto in transit exactly trine my Asc (17° Virgo). Again, your experience will depend on what Pluto-related process you've gone through leading up to this.

You may think more about death than you normally do. Consider it symbolic of wanting to begin life on new terms and leave behind old patterns of family/emotion. You may find your feelings and reactions getting stronger, more definite. See it as a process of getting in touch with the internal feeling of power of decisiveness. Look at the ugly stuff that comes up, comes out of your mouth, and see it as baggage to let go of.

Robert Hand in his book Planets in Transit describes this transit as being characterized by a sense of regression to an earlier state of maturity, but that is what I mean about old issues coming back to the surface for more permanent resolution.

Probably more than any other transit, this one tests our sense of security and shows us how much fear is still at work within us.

posted September 22, 2017 06:28 PM            

What has been negative/stressful has been the mindset. The #1 thing I'd say to watch for is any sort of fear-based, anxiety-ridden, or emotionally lurching state of mind. For some it may be intolerance and ruthlessness. This period is characterized by emotionally based decisions, sometimes made innocuously and secretly within self.

When I got a break from this transit earlier this year I could more easily see how I'd let fear (after getting hit by a car) turn into an overly-cautious mindset that caused me to stop doing things I wanted to try or that I enjoyed (anything with a perceived added risk attached). What I actually learned from that event is that I'm very capable as a healer and unafraid of what health professionals worry people with. I healed the scaphoid bone in my wrist perfectly and only in a soft cast (velcro) by using homeopathic medicine. The Dr gave me all kinds of bad scenarios and tried to talk me out of the soft cast, but I did it my way and it worked.

The Dr who diagnosed me with the polyp looked like he'd seen a ghost when he told me. I found it amusing, because of course, he was thinking polyp as precursor to cancer. I accepted no medicine for it and have controlled it with herbs I already knew about.

Again, it is all what you make of it. But you will have to deal with your fears -- otherwise you'll be engaging in compensating behaviors that take you into caution or attempt to grab control in a more ruthless way. It doesn't have to be either.

Maintaining balance during this period is difficult, because you are literally learning a new internal/emotional balance that will not make sense according to any previous rationale.

Principles to learn during this transit:

- Forgiveness (as the author of the above-linked article points out).

- If you've already learned forgiveness with parents, family, past lovers, etc, then understand that does not necessarily remove the personal baggage of pain or fear associated with such past experiences. We have to heal from that. Forgiving someone else heals the relationship with them, but it only goes so far in healing ourselves.

- Don't separate power from Love. This is a strong temptation for many people, but especially Capricorn (or control-oriented) types. If you think in terms of exerting power or force, stop and consider if it is in line with the Golden Rule of treating others as you'd want to be treated. If not, you're trying to separate power from Love. That is how all evil begins.

posted October 26, 2021 09:13 PM            

Idk what degree. I might come back and check. I’m pretty sure she has Capricorn Saturn too. Makes sense she she had me when she was 30. And my Saturn is in Capricorn.

She has kind of transitioned career fields right now. OT to notary.

posted November 17, 2021 11:27 AM            

Pluto conjunction Moon:
"Raw and urgent"
Length: ~One year and 8+ months
. .
This influence signifies a time of
extremely powerful emotional change in your life,
which can affect your immediate personal surroundings,
your home and family,
and your inmost psychological development.
. .
The feelings evoked by this influence are raw and urgent.
You may be surprised at the intensity of some of the internal forces that you will discover,
and making yourself deal with these feelings may be the most difficult part of this time.
.. Now this aspect of your psyche is in a state of 'acute' transformation,
and that is what makes this influence so powerful.
The actual experience can vary tremendously
because so many different areas of your personal and emotional life can be activated,
but here are some typical manifestations.
. .
* First of all,
on the innermost psychological level,
this influence can indicate an enormous emotional change that activates complexes within you that have lain dormant since childhood.
You may repeatedly find yourself in situations in which you act as a compulsive child rather than a rational adult.
The problem is that your "rational" adulthood has never dealt with these repressed energies.
You may need psychotherapy or a related technique in order to handle what comes up at this time.

* On another level,
this influence can transform all your emotionally based relationships,
such as those with your partner, family and parents,
particularly your mother.
One of these relationships may 'end completely' for any number of reasons.
. .
Relationships with women in general may become particularly intense,
regardless of your own sex.

* On a more external level
this influence can affect your home in a number of ways.
You may change your residence,
or you may make great changes in your present residence.
Repairs may be necessary in order to prevent serious disintegration of a building.

This influence may be upsetting now,
but in reality it is the preparation for a new stage of development.
Keep yourself flexible
so that the necessary changes can take place with a minimum of disruption.