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bananaz
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posted September 22, 2017 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I change my natal chart by 1 minute, I end up with Pluto on the cusp of my 8th instead of the last degree of my 7th. This makes more sense to me.

Many of you here know my brother was killed last year. What you don't know is since it happened, I have become obsessed with death.

Is this typical of an 8th house pluto?

Every night I listen to or read near death experiences. Sometimes I am so jaded by life, I want to be dead, but not in a typical suicidal way. I have experienced depression and this isn't it. I just can't connect with earth and life anymore with the exception of my daughter. She is the one thing that ties me here (moon in the 5th). I love {certain parts of} life because of her, but without her, I think I would be lost.

I also have 4 planets in the 12th which adds to the dissonance.

When I tried to research this placement, I read that most of these natives will experience an event that will impact their lives in a huge way, and I believe that. I mean, everyone goes through stuff, but not everyone changes this drastically. I guess I just dont know how to work with this energy.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted September 22, 2017 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the 4 planets being in the 12th may be the culprit.

Death is "escape". And Neptune/Pisces/12th can be the eternal escapist. Ever elusive. Ever transcending. Ever wanting to go into nothingness.

People often think it depression. But is it really when people fantasize and write poetry about endings and leaving their whole lives?

Pluto in 8th may suggest being an addict of adrenalin. So perhaps extreme sports, things that make your pulse beat faster? Pluto is not about spacing out or escaping but feeling everything fully and deeper still.

Unless you mean coming close to death and then being re-awakened like that old movie with Julia Roberts and Kiefer Sutherland called "Flatliners"? If not, I would look to the 12th.

I have Neptune-Sun-Jupiter conjunct and Neptune parallels additionally to this. I dream about escaping life a lot. I don't think its suicide that i want because i don't want to self harm. But self release.

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juliagarfield
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posted September 22, 2017 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juliagarfield     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm very sorry to hear about your brother, and can only imagine how that may be effecting you.
I don't have Pluto on the cusp of the 8th, but I o have Mars at the end of the 7th, conjunct (by 7 degrees) a Pluto farther back in the 7th. Both in Scorpio. Plus I'm a Cap sun with a lot of Saturn and Cap energy, and Pluto has been in that sign for some time. So I may relate to this placement of yours.

An astrology teacher once pointed out the closeness of my Mars (and conjunction to Pluto) to the 8th house in Scorpio, asking the question of how that might be significant. He was suggesting it was. I thought... it was a sign of approaching a new level f intimacy and connection and understanding with intensity, death, psychic ability, and everything else scorpio rules. Though it starts in Scorpio, much of my eighth house is also in Sag. So I do explore lots of this, maybe increasingly as I grow.

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bananaz
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posted September 26, 2017 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you both for replying.

Aries23 You're probably right about it having more to do with 12th house. You described it the same way I feel.

I have no fears of death except possibly the act itself and if it will be painful.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted September 26, 2017 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its interesting because my Uranus is in 8th. 8th is the house of things that are eery and go bump in the night.

Its not a lightweight house and so a planet(more especially personal planets) in that house do feel "deep". Like its a house where mortality is tested....emotionally,psychologically,physically etc.

Uranus in 8th feels like being struck by lightening in broad daylight. And sometimes I feel like I have to avoid being outdoors when it rains

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bananaz
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posted September 26, 2017 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Its interesting because my Uranus is in 8th. 8th is the house of things that are eery and go bump in the night.

Its not a lightweight house and so a planet(more especially personal planets) in that house do feel "deep". Like its a house where mortality is tested....emotionally,psychologically,physically etc.

Uranus in 8th feels like being struck by lightening in broad daylight. And sometimes I feel like I have to avoid being outdoors when it rains


Thanks for describing that placement Aries! My daughter has it so I was curious what it will be like. "Struck by lightening in broad daylight" is an interesting analogy.

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Spica
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posted September 26, 2017 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto is trauma and complete powerlessness and surrendering to it in order to survive. But after you do that you may not die technically, but something in you always dies. Something that used to be innocent before.

Pluto in the 8th house makes you wise and enlightened, it makes you understand what life is all about.

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bananaz
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posted September 27, 2017 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Spica:
Pluto is trauma and complete powerlessness and surrendering to it in order to survive. But after you do that you may not die technically, but something in you always dies. Something that used to be innocent before.

This is EXACTLY how I feel. It also feels like I needed that part of myself to enjoy life.

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