posted September 22, 2017 12:12 PM            

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posted September 22, 2017 01:02 PM            

Why do you think Scorpios are the most innocent sign of the zodiac?

posted September 22, 2017 01:09 PM            

scorpios' awareness and consciousness is mostly int he dark, facing it.

Other people are more subconscious about the corruption (non verbal communication/etc).

You are less of a victim to something that you can control than something that is controlling you.

That is why they are more innocent than others ironically.

They are aware about the dark and taboo things, about the unfairness in the world and all that. They see it. Since scorpio is ruled by mars, it is the sign of survival.

They understand what is power and they understand consciously all the power plays in society because they focus on things that others don't even question.

But to be innocent you need a combination of scorpio and pisces in your chart, because after being aware about corruption, you also need wisdom to be innocent, and that's what pisces does.

Pisces is wise because it is the sign that release you from the corruption and darkness. It's the sign of unconditional love. So despite knowing about corruption, you are not controlled by it because you know it's just out of insecurity. Pisces makes you realize that while darkness exists, darkness is not the truth but the illusion. It reminds you that light is truth. So that you are not controlled by the darkness and corruption and it's not all what you believe in.

posted September 22, 2017 01:26 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
There are million of people born under Scorpios, and I don't think all of them having the rewards. lol.

Why do you think Scorpios are the most innocent sign of the zodiac?

Innocent: "having no knowledge of the unpleasant and evil things in life (of words or an action)" - only a new born baby is innocent until they learn about the world/people/etc.

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I disagree. Innocence is not about being ignorant to corruption. Innocence is about despite finding out about the corruption, not being a victim to it by realizing your true self is more worthy and real and true than any corruption.

You don't become corrupted by becoming aware about corruption outside of you. You become corrupted when you let corruption affect your innocence.

A lot of people believe that just knowing about corruption makes you corrupted but it's because they automatically let it happen to themselves. They adapt the corruption without questioning anything.

We like to be dark/corrupted because we believe it will keep us safe because we become scared and stop believing in unconditional love because we thought it was always supposed to be there and we find this world cruel for how merciless it is with its laws and rules and permanentness.

posted September 22, 2017 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Spica:
I disagree. Innocence is not about being ignorant to corruption. Innocence is about despite finding out about the corruption, not being a victim to it by realizing your true self is more worthy and real and true than any corruption.

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Did you know about the story of "Fruit of Knowledge" or "Tree of the knowledge of good and evil"?

The time they know ALL, why do you think HE expels them from the garden and thereby from eternal life?

posted September 22, 2017 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Spica:
I disagree. Innocence is not about being ignorant to corruption. Innocence is about despite finding out about the corruption, not being a victim to it by realizing your true self is more worthy and real and true than any corruption.

You don't become corrupted by becoming aware about corruption outside of you. You become corrupted when you let corruption affect your innocence.

A lot of people believe that just knowing about corruption makes you corrupted but it's because they automatically let it happen to themselves. They adapt the corruption without questioning anything.

We like to be dark/corrupted because we believe it will keep us safe because we become scared and stop believing in unconditional love because we thought it was always supposed to be there and we find this world cruel for how merciless it is with its laws and rules and permanentness.

Trauma + Pisces + Dignified mercury = Wisdom.

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posted September 22, 2017 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Did you know about the story of "Fruit of Knowledge" or "Tree of the knowledge of good and evil"?

The time they know ALL, why do you think HE expels them from the garden and thereby from eternal life?

They were considered as innocent when they have no knowledge of the good or the bad. They ruined their innocence by eating the "Fruit of Knowledge".

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posted September 22, 2017 02:40 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
That's resilience, not innocence.

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posted September 22, 2017 02:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Spica:
No it's not and I even explained why. Did you read it?

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posted September 22, 2017 03:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Spica:
And why is the story of "fruit of knowledge" an objective truth?

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I'm not saying it is an objective truth as I don't know what you believe in. I only said that, have you read the story? As my responses based on what I believe in about "innocence". I am not trying to force you on my personal opinion.

posted September 22, 2017 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Spica:
scorpios are innocent because of the following reason:

scorpios' awareness and consciousness is mostly int he dark, facing it.

Other people are more subconscious about the corruption (non verbal communication/etc).

You are less of a victim to something that you can control than something that is controlling you.

That is why they are more innocent than others ironically.

They are aware about the dark and taboo things, about the unfairness in the world and all that. They see it. Since scorpio is ruled by mars, it is the sign of survival.

They understand what is power and they understand consciously all the power plays in society because they focus on things that others don't even question.

But to be innocent you need a combination of scorpio and pisces in your chart, because after being aware about corruption, you also need wisdom to be innocent, and that's what pisces does.

Pisces is wise because it is the sign that release you from the corruption and darkness. It's the sign of unconditional love. So despite knowing about corruption, you are not controlled by it because you know it's just out of insecurity. Pisces makes you realize that while darkness exists, darkness is not the truth but the illusion. It reminds you that light is truth. So that you are not controlled by the darkness and corruption and it's not all what you believe in.

Scorpios need pisces energy (ascendant, moon or stellium) so that they are not completely scared or only believe in cruelty all the time, so that they can have compassion for others and themselves and understanding and wisdom and not just focusing on survival and power.

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I agree with your reason.

posted September 22, 2017 06:02 PM            

Besides, I can't forget my Scorpio heavy mother with Pisces Jupiter (supposedly idealistic, spiritual, and prone to martyrdom) when she was about as far from innocent and powerful as you can get. Well in a very twisted way she could be say to be idealistic and prone to martyrdom. She thought all the abuse she endured as model (though she dished it out as much as take it) was an achievement the way some people are proud of the mountain they climb BECAUSE it's hard, and she was self-aware (and liked to share with me) on how vicious she was. The world was vicious, so was she, but she seemed surprised when that blew up in her face. In some cases it was true, but she was like an exile of Tartarus, which was her own mind, it had once been done to her but by then she was doing it to herself. Just as some people being cruel to her made her a cruel person, her cruelty caused the rest of the world to be cruel to her when it otherwise wouldn't have been.

It's just tragic to think about, and also sad when I recall how she was the mother but needed me as a child to be strong for her...guess she was one more Scorpio to lean on me, but unlike the other who hid behind me around the same time, there was no trust, just hopelessness and bitterness. And it makes sense to me that she's punishing herself as much as the rest of the world, but unlike her lashing out at the world, her self-punishment seems to be completely subconscious.

posted September 22, 2017 09:08 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
That's resilience, not innocence.

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posted September 22, 2017 09:22 PM            

To be honest I don't even believe that every pisces has compassion for others.

posted September 22, 2017 11:31 PM            

I hardly consider Scorpio innocent, being nasty or being vengeful would not make you innocent.

My sick and dying grandma is under the care of a Scorpio and Sagittarius.

The Scorpio just uses my grandma for her own personal control and the Sagittarius swears the Scorpio is pure evil.

The only sign I would consider innocent would be Virgo/Aquarius cusp or Aquarius.

An Aquarius would forgive someone 100 times before a Scorpio would ever do.

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