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Kannon McAfee
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posted October 23, 2017 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some tips on adjusting your own chart.

I have long encouraged people to trust their own feeling if they don't think that the rising sign indicated by their birth time fits them. As you can read above, Lerena, knew she was not a Sagittarius rising personality and I take her word for it. She's right.

Transits are tricky in narrowing down the correct Asc degree. Planetary transits may often hit their peak in declination for a particular event. Since most people get overloaded with the added information of declinations or don't track them at all, I suggest looking at the transits through the zodiac as framing a degree area of around 5° to start for major transits (conjunction, square, trine, opposition).

Generally speaking a single planets' transit for a particular event will not point out the exact degree of the Asc. For events such as work/career-related matters and moves of residence, you are looking for transits being conjunct, opposite, square, etc, the MC/IC. Sometimes a minor aspect like a semi-sextile will play a role. For example, Pluto or another slow planet semi-sextile natal IC/4th cusp on the date of a move of residence. There will likely be other accompanying transits. I have very often seen planets in quincunx transit to the IC on dates of moves.

Those minor aspect transits will actually allow you to narrow the degree area. Sextiles should be allowed 4° orb to point out natal Asc or MC; Quincunxes (150°), 2° orb; Semi-sextiles, 1° orb or less.

Of course, you may strongly identify with a particular planet that seems to be out of range of your Asc. That could be a helpful hint what direction adjust Asc (to be in aspect with that planet in declination or zodiac). That is not as arbitrary as some would think.

The idea is not to go preemptively changing the chart -- especially because of anything you don't like about it -- but because something about its alignment does not match who you know you are. So long as your level of astrological literacy supports it, then it is your chart and your prerogative to make such an adjustment.

Anything created by humans that is supposed to create or reflect accurate movement or timing may need to be calibrated for better precision. Astrology is cosmic, but our charting methods are human created.

You can always email me through my site and inquire with me by sending your birth data. Over the years I've done quite a few such chart adjustments that did not require full paid rectification efforts.

I know it is difficult to apply both the zodiacal geometric aspects and declinations effectively to do such things. It took me years to effectively apply both. So I don't mind putting that to use for you.

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posted October 23, 2017 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait so are you saying that the birthtime on our birthchart may not be correct? How do we know it is? My birthtime on my birth certificate exactly says 0523 on a 24 hour clock. So 5:23am ? I hope my birthtime is correct...

Also there is a celebrity I wanted to read his chart. I think may have found his birthtime but it isn't official but off someone who got it from a fansite. He's in a boy group and all 7 members times were given but whether or not they are true I cant be sure. They seem accurate to all 7 though! Their chart with the given birthtimes seems accurate so is there anything you can do to see if they are their actual birthtimes? Even though they seem to be rounded birthtimes 😩I dont know how to relate incidents to their charts. I dont want to get excited for nothing 😬

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Kannon McAfee
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posted October 23, 2017 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Wait so are you saying that the birthtime on our birthchart may not be correct? How do we know it is? My birthtime on my birth certificate exactly says 0523 on a 24 hour clock. So 5:23am ? I hope my birthtime is correct...

I assume a specific time like that is pretty accurately recorded. That is a different matter from watching transits through your chart and over the area of your chart's Asc. I don't take factual records as articles of faith to believe, not to believe, or doubt. I focus on the astrological language and how it can be used as a tool.

As to your boyband interests, I suggest not getting excited at all ... except for the music, if that's your thing. You can still study their charts based on planets in signs and aspects. Just because (house/cusp) lines are drawn on a birth chart for someone don't mean they are accurate.

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posted October 24, 2017 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 0 degrees Aries rising.

If you were to ask me to describe my personality, I would say, "Reserved, dreamy, introvert." Which falls to Pisces. But I would also say "ambitious and impatient" which is more in line with Aries.

Sometimes I wonder if my rising is a blend of that space on the chart.

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posted October 24, 2017 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bananaz, that's a great example of a cuspy Asc situation that can be tested and a precise determination made. It is possible in some of those situations that the 1st house holds enough of the sign of Aries (even in a 1st/7th interception) that Aries has to be blended into an understanding of your personality.

But the Asc degree itself is definitely either in Pisces or Aries.

Ambition and impatience could be still evident in Pisces rising person whose chart also shows say Mars/Sun/Jupiter aspects to explain that.

Reserved, dreamy, introverted as an overall description means you're not likely to be Aries rising without considerable aspects involving Moon/Neptune, etc to explain it.

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posted October 24, 2017 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bananaz, I found a copy of your birth chart posted here in LL. Your stellium in Pisces could easily explain how you describe yourself overall, leaving it very possible to be Aries rising.

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posted October 25, 2017 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kannon the stellium does get in the way of me seeing Aries rising. It's probably accurate. With all the Pisces, I guess it's just hard for me to pinpoint the Aries

I'm going to check the peak time of declinations like you mentioned in your earlier post just out of curiosity.

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posted October 25, 2017 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So this is crazy.

The day my brother died I had progressed Mercury (rules my 3rd house of siblings) at 2°48' 0" S and Pluto (rules 8th house of death) at 2°19'37" N

What's it called when they're opposite like that? Contra-parallel?

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Kannon McAfee
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posted October 27, 2017 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, contra-parallel, but with a gap of 29', that aspect of Mercury and Pluto is well away from culmination, probably by many months. Another aspect or set of aspects were more active.

Sorry your brother died.

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posted October 27, 2017 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Yes, contra-parallel, but with a gap of 29', that aspect of Mercury and Pluto is well away from culmination, probably by many months. Another aspect or set of aspects were more active.

Sorry your brother died.


Thanks, Kannon.

Ah, okay. I'm not as versed in this area. I checked when it became exact. The only significant thing I can think of happening around the same time was that my husband and I started trying for a baby.

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posted October 27, 2017 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The closest to being exact I could find were in my transits between Mercury and NN. Fated, maybe?

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Kannon McAfee
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posted October 28, 2017 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bananaz:
The closest to being exact I could find were in my transits between Mercury and NN. Fated, maybe?

I'll bet you there were other progressed aspects near culmination. They may've been 15-degree aspects in zodiac positions. Free to visit my site and email me the natal + progressed chart and/or the data sheet with natal + progressions. It works best when orbs are set to 12%. I can convert the data sheet to an image, mark it, and send it back to you.

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posted October 29, 2017 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll give an example here using the data sheet from Corey Feldman's progressions for 25 October 2017. That is the day his Truth Campaign video was released and he described numerous events coinciding with his publicity for it. First, the progressed planet aspects to progressed planets:

Notice there are three aspects within 05' of exact. That's minutes of arc. The Mercury-Jupiter square relates to dramatic communication on a larger than normal scale, even the big picture thinking leading up to it since you see that is a separating aspect. A minor Mercury-Pluto aspect comes into play as well (also separating). That semi-sextile indicates adjustments and deep thought given to such preparations. Then there is the exact sextile between Jupiter and Pluto, great timing for a campaign to raise money.

Now let's look at the progressed to natal planets aspectarian, which appears at the bottom of the astro.com data sheet:

Here there are also three aspects within 0°05' (not counting prog Neptune conjunct its natal position). First, we see progressed Moon is just about to make an exact bi-quintile (144°) to natal Mercury, indicating the somewhat emotional nature of the communication he's engaging in. Then we have an exact sesquisquare by Mars to natal Pluto (135°, sometimes called 'sesquiquadrate'). That indicates the battle with powerful persons, ego battles, danger, etc. Further down we see prog Uranus is semi-square natal Jupiter within 0°01'. That indicates surprises, accidents, shocks that can be easily turned to personal benefit if he doesn't let them rattle him too much, also aiding in publicity since Uranus deals in mass communication and Jupiter in expansion.

Notice that 4 of 6 of these culminating aspects are minor aspects synchronous with a major effort on his part.

Admittedly, Corey's progressions show a larger collection of culminating aspects for a given event, but this one is big in Corey's life and involves a very concentrated effort and coordination with his fan base and the public, even reaching out to people who may be hearing his story for the first time. It is also stressful in nature with only 2 of the 6 aspects (biquintile, sextile) flowing/supportive.

Sometimes a significant life event, even a death of someone close to us, is accompanied by a single exact progressed aspect. If so, it will at least involve the natural significators for such an event, like Moon/Saturn, etc, or pinpoint the natal Moon or appropriate cusp (houses of endings: 4th, 8th, 12th; house of that person's relation to us: 3rd/siblings/cousins, 7th/partner/significant other, 11th/friend, etc).

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posted November 04, 2017 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Kannon!

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Kannon McAfee
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posted November 06, 2017 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I goofed the first aspectarian image in the above post about Corey Feldman's progressions. Got it corrected now.


I hope that example really highlights the principle about active progressions. In order to know what is really going on in a person's progressions at any given time, we don't overlook these tightest ones in favor of what jumps out at us on the circle chart. Use the aspectarian! It is there to help you.

These very tight progressed aspects are indispensable in rectification because they let you know how close your radix may be to being correct. The Sun moves 0°05' avg per sign over the Asc (every 2 hours or so). So unless a chart has progressed aspects that are consistently tighter than that, there isn't good evidence that you've got the right 30° arc area (sign) over the radix.

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posted September 12, 2018 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a gift to myself, I rectified my chart during my solar return this year. I used many of the tips that were listed in this thread, but it was also pretty intuitive and common sense.

I am in fact a late degree Capricorn rising. This adjusted my birth time by pushing it back an hour, which seems completely reasonable given the circumstances of my birth. More importantly, my own mother affirmed that the new birth time was more in line with her own memory and seemed to match up with events around my birth.

The big changes I noted make more sense to me than not. My Sun and Mercury shifted from the 7th house to my 8th house. My IC-MC axis changed to Taurus-Scorpio. I now have a natal Pluto-MC conjunction. This all fits for more reasons than I could list here or one would care to read.

Let's just say that we all now know where this Virgo gets her stubbornness. As well as her practical, paranoid, secretive, quiet nature.

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posted September 18, 2018 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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Kannon McAfee
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posted September 18, 2018 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well done, StubbornVirgo. I guess there's no point asking you about the details of the chart itself

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