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hypatia238
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posted December 28, 2017 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
yes, hypatia hahaha...we make a great team, I wish we worked together in an investigation unit, we would be the mental female force. lol.

with this second chart, Moon in Cancer is in his 10th ( that's his profession, career), with MC in Gemini and the ruler Mercury in the 3th house - he made money by being a motivation speaker and a cook author.
and we see Chiron ( pain) and Mars (arguments, violence) in his house of marriage. Ok, ok, wait...ASC is at late degree Virgo- that's what TR Saturn had hit and caused him depression earlier on, it squared his angles back and forth, back and forth three times this year , as well as recently ( last week) conjuncted his IC at maybe late Saggy.


Excellent assessment It would be cool to work together.

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Melinn
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posted December 28, 2017 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Gun control is not the problem LOL, if it was only that simple. All cases of shooters they were taking antidepressants, is a mental health issue which hints to a bigger societal problem. People can always get guns illegally or make a bomb at home or use knifes etc..
Also everyone is Switzerland is required to own a gun and is a very peaceful country with very low crime rate...

Also if only men in uniform have guns that puts the masses at a vulnerable position if government takes over and becomes a dictatorship....


I don't wanna go into political debate about this issue, we all know how fiercely most US citizens feels about the right to own a fire arm and I can understand that! I'm not criticising the normal people who does wanna defend them selves.

No I did not say gun control is the ONLY problem, it just makes it easier for people to commit crimes, menthally ill or not. Hell even small toddlers accidentally kill family members. And sadly the statistics talks for them selves about all the mass killings and other stuff in weapon liberal countries. You are not completely right about Switzerlands gun laws. Only men who have done their military service keeps the rifle after the service is done until they are 34 years old.

And yes its a very harmonic country, in my opinion one could not compare switzerland with usa, in many ways they are not alike, and I'm talking more about the polarizations and other social problems in usa, since its such a big country, so its normal.

[/B][/QUOTE]Also if only men in uniform have guns that puts the masses at a vulnerable position if government takes over and becomes a dictatorship....
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Ok I really don't undestand your statement above, government takes over?! What are you talking about? Anyways liberal gun laws or not, a mentally ill will always find a way to kill if he wanna kill, just by using an axe or knife or something. Or fire so, yeah me mentioning the gun laws is poinless I guess

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hypatia238
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posted December 28, 2017 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don't understand what government takes over means? I am talking about a dictatorship. Someone who has absolute power wants their citizens completely disarmed so they can stay in power indefinitely and so the masses are not be able to revolt and take their power back.

So setting up a situation were ONLY people in power have the right to own guns puts the masses in a vulnerable position.

Also if everyone is armed and trained properly to use arms and a shooter comes along and starts killing people then the shooter can be stopped quickly by an armed citizen instead of waiting indefinitely for a police to arrive resulting in less lives been lost. ALL the shootings ALWAYS happen in a gun free zone, always and by people who are taking antidepressants. Also people are less likely to engage in acts of terror when they know everyone around them is armed.

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posted December 28, 2017 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
I saw his birth info on his mug shot.

He is born on Dec 30, 1971

Saturn was the trigger. It didn't happen any other times but exactly now when Saturn triggered his deep seated anger issues, the report said he was depressed too.
Otherwise you are denying the power of the transits as triggers.


You are correct. Date of birth was 30 December 1971.
http://bustednewspaper.com/az-maricopa-anthony-milan-ross-2017-12-26/

I'm a long-term professional astrologer and fully aware of the functioning concepts of transits.

The point is this terrible incident is what he did with the astrological energies he was experiencing, not what they did to him. If Saturn transits triggered murders every person would become a killer with certain types of Saturn transits.

This is a pivotal shift in understanding you don't have to make, but which is available for those who choose not to live in fear of the next planetary shoe dropping: Planets cannot make you do something that is not already within your consciousness; we choose love or fear. He made his choice. He may not have been able to make that choice with full awareness if he was suffering from some kind of untreated mental illness, but it was still a choice.

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Melinn
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posted December 28, 2017 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You don't understand what government takes over means? I am talking about a dictatorship. Someone who has absolute power wants their citizens completely disarmed so they can stay in power indefinitely and so the masses are not be able to revolt and take their power back.

So setting up a situation were ONLY people in power have the right to own guns puts the masses in a vulnerable position.

Also if everyone is armed and trained properly to use arms and then a shooter comes a long then the shooter can be stopped quickly by an armed citizen instead of waiting indefinitely for a police to arrive resulting in less lives been lost. ALL the shootings ALWAYS happen in a gun free zone, always.


So we should have guns because our government would turn on us? It sounds like a hypotheticall scenario. If they do wan't you down, down you will go as they will have much more fire power then a simple gun :/ Like Syria the last years.

Yeah this happens, military coups for ex. When a countries own military takes over. That just sucks... my home country have had its fair shares of that **** . The last military coup attempt was 2016 and it failed luckily, thanks to the now more aware citizens going out and standing against the military. But they had no guns, only their courage

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posted December 28, 2017 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
So we should have guns because our government would turn on us? It sounds like a hypotheticall scenario. If they do wan't you down, down you will go as they will have much more fire power then a simple gun :/ Like Syria the last years.

Yeah this happens, military coups for ex. When a countries own military takes over. That just sucks... my home country have had its fair shares of that **** . The last military coup attempt was 2016 and it failed luckily, thanks to the now more aware citizens going out and standing against the military. But they had no guns, only their courage


Taking seriously "hypothetical situations" is how we prevent history from repeating itself. Is not that hypothetical, it can definitely happen but it will not in the US that is for sure bc we take the 2nd amendment seriously, at least just enough of the population takes the 2nd amendment seriously to make a difference and prevent something like that from happening. Just courage is not enough, you got lucky if it was, very lucky.

That been said I don't expect you to change your views, its ok to disagree. We have astrology in common so lets go back to the OP and again Orange thanks for posting, it was a good chart to break down and study. I will try to post the transits later.

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hypatia238
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posted December 28, 2017 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tr Chiron on his DC

Here Mirage, the transits!

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