posted January 20, 2018 07:41 PM            

But I'm currently heartbroken by this scorpio sun boy (he also has a scorpio stellium!) and I am really just blown away right now.

We met, clicked right away, like his vibe was very vibrant and very intense no matter how sweet he acted he was just wildly intense at the same time. Anyways, we dated for about 4ish months introduced me to his mom. I would had consistent dreams about him. Like even now during my waking hours I kind of have visions of him....? It sounds crazy and I don't know how to word or describe these "visions" it's like he's actually there I can smell him and sort of feel him but not really. MOVING ON! just a week before New years, we got together for the first time after a WHILE (we fell out after an argument at my house and didn't speak for a bit) Well anyways, he comes over. He is extremely affectionate with me, giving me a back massage, asking me about my day, we talk about almost everything, we cuddle and just kiss for a while. It was nice.

posted January 20, 2018 09:26 PM            

Sorry you are dealing with this loss and heartbreak. You reminded me of the guy I was involved with last who was a Scorpio with a Scorpio stellium (sun, mercury, venus and pluto) but I am the one that ghosted him and he is the one that kept dreaming about me constantly and the dreams were very vivid and real.

All I can tell you is that I feel plutonic relationships are meant to be brief, they teach you something and transform you and then one of the parties lets go. Usually one of the two gets sucked in by how amazing the connection feels and is not able to let go. However, the point of plutonic relationships IMO is death and transformation, not partnership and the party that did not get the memo and understands this suffers more as they hold on to something that they need to release.

When a plutonic relationship lasts there is usually significant saturn and juno in the synastry and composite cooling things down and giving it that staying power.

posted January 20, 2018 10:02 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Welcome Sweetheart!

Sorry you are dealing with this loss and heartbreak. You reminded me of the guy I was involved with last who was a Scorpio with a Scorpio stellium (sun, mercury, venus and pluto) but I am the one that ghosted him and he is the one that kept dreaming about me constantly and the dreams were very vivid and real.

All I can tell you is that I feel plutonic relationships are meant to be brief, they teach you something and transform you and then one of the parties lets go. Usually one of the two gets sucked in by how amazing the connection feels and is not able to let go. However, the point of plutonic relationships IMO is death and transformation, not partnership and the party that did not get the memo and understands this suffers more as they hold on to something that they need to release.

When a plutonic relationship lasts there is usually significant saturn and juno in the synastry and composite cooling things down and giving it that staying power.

Check out my views on Pluto here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/238075.html

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Thank you so much wow what you said feel accurate. I even rad something right before meeting him for the first time "Getting with a Scorpio man will change you." and I just kind of scoffed at it at first, but now I see why they said that. I do not feel the same. Like I am very heartbroken and have been tossed to the side like this before by people but ended up disliking them, but I can't even dislike him at all, can't even hate him really. I'm thinking of doing a real letting go spell too actually, like to make it stop.

posted January 20, 2018 10:23 PM            

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Alright I'm new to this site...But not entirely. I have been lurking with no profile for a few years now ever since getting more and more sucked into astrology. So...Bare with me I guess? I'm sos sorry this comes off whiny and I do hope it is the right place to post this.
But I'm currently heartbroken by this scorpio sun boy (he also has a scorpio stellium!) and I am really just blown away right now.

We met, clicked right away, like his vibe was very vibrant and very intense no matter how sweet he acted he was just wildly intense at the same time. Anyways, we dated for about 4ish months introduced me to his mom. I would had consistent dreams about him. Like even now during my waking hours I kind of have visions of him....? It sounds crazy and I don't know how to word or describe these "visions" it's like he's actually there I can smell him and sort of feel him but not really. MOVING ON! just a week before New years, we got together for the first time after a WHILE (we fell out after an argument at my house and didn't speak for a bit) Well anyways, he comes over. He is extremely affectionate with me, giving me a back massage, asking me about my day, we talk about almost everything, we cuddle and just kiss for a while. It was nice.
Later we end up getting it on. THAT was fantastic....as always. Moving on we cuddle and talk most of the night away and then he disappears into the night. Days roll on by and he's responsive but not really which is not totally like him, even when he's busy he's cheery talking to me. Then a week goes by, I had already started to give him space and just kept busy. More radio silence. It has been almost a month. He's completely ghosted. I am just like in this depressed phase over him I think, I have been trying to date and ya know meet more people I have been working too. But nothing is helping I can't shake off this short "relationship". Like there is NO closure. And I still dream about him too. Please tell me if this is too long and I will edit it to make it shorter!

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posted January 20, 2018 10:24 PM            

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Originally posted by taurusprettyrising:
Thank you so much wow what you said feel accurate. I even rad something right before meeting him for the first time "Getting with a Scorpio man will change you." and I just kind of scoffed at it at first, but now I see why they said that. I do not feel the same. Like I am very heartbroken and have been tossed to the side like this before by people but ended up disliking them, but I can't even dislike him at all, can't even hate him really. I'm thinking of doing a real letting go spell too actually, like to make it stop.

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yes my ex boyfriend from long ago is a Scorpio too and I could never hate him and will always have love for him in my heart, there will always be a special place for him in there. He is the only ex that will always hold a special place in my heart and be part of my soul. No other Scorpio has had that impact in me in that way, like true lasting love way and I was transformed too by that connection (e.g. met in 2001).

The last Scorpio I was with did facilitate death and transformation although it was not love what I felt...there was an instant connection but I did not fall for him yet I gained a lot from the 3 months we hanged out and learned a lot about myself, he facilitated certain ways of thinking and been passing away for me and I did the same for him, we met to push our personal growth to another level and to help each other gain the insight and clarity that will facilitate this push. Some of it happened indirectly just by been in each other's life around each other's energy, some of it happened directly by having conversations and getting to know each other.

Your connection with him was about helping you gain a deeper understanding of yourself and what parts of you need to pass away and an opportunity to learn to let go and practice detachment. Pluto! What can I say, complicated tough cookie that one...

posted January 20, 2018 11:50 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
The key to letting go is Radical Acceptance, respecting boundaries and self-love, loving yourself even more than you love them and respecting that for whatever reason and it might be a reason they don't fully understand they feel ready for this relationship to end and instead of trying to understand this mystery and obsessing over finding the reason why which leads to holding on and feeling imprisoned simply accepting it and trusting the process and that this is how is meant to play out for your own benefit long term. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you set yourself free from whatever karma you have with him.

It took me years to learn all that but I got there LOL . Some people are born knowing this, some people learn it faster than me. For me it was a process.

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posted January 21, 2018 12:06 PM            

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Welcome, Taurusprettyrising

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posted January 21, 2018 04:43 PM            

This wasn't about Scorpios, since it was just one person and his behavior. It could become about you -- what you learned from this about yourself (not another vaguely defined group of people). Although you may've experienced some relational-emotional dynamics that you'll want to feel your way through and consider for later.

Consider that he considered you attractive and interesting enough to spend time with you and be vulnerable with you, and introduce you to family. For many of us (especially we Taurus types) that can suggest longer-term interest, but if there's no commitment voiced, it is best not to expect any.

Feel free to link us to your chart and post any related questions that come to mind. Sometimes we go through transits that can make any relationships difficult for a while. It can be helpful to understand those and what learning processes are associated with them.

Be good to yourself and do whatever it takes to get your heart back into a good place.

posted January 22, 2018 12:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Welcome to Lindaland, taurusprettyrising. Sorry to hear that you've been left in the lurch.

This wasn't about Scorpios, since it was just one person and his behavior. It could become about you -- what you learned from this about yourself (not another vaguely defined group of people). Although you may've experienced some relational-emotional dynamics that you'll want to feel your way through and consider for later.

Consider that he considered you attractive and interesting enough to spend time with you and be vulnerable with you, and introduce you to family. For many of us (especially we Taurus types) that can suggest longer-term interest, but if there's no commitment voiced, it is best not to expect any.

Feel free to link us to your chart and post any related questions that come to mind. Sometimes we go through transits that can make any relationships difficult for a while. It can be helpful to understand those and what learning processes are associated with them.

Be good to yourself and do whatever it takes to get your heart back into a good place.

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posted January 22, 2018 12:54 AM            

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Originally posted by taurusprettyrising:
Hm I hope this link works
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http://taurusprettyrising.tumblr.com/post/169989111868
^my chart

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posted January 22, 2018 12:11 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You have to have Tumblr to see your chart. A lot of people dont have Tumblr. You should go to astro.com extendended charts and save image, then go to imgur.com to upload image.

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posted January 22, 2018 02:15 PM            

Simultaneous to this, Saturn near 4° Capricorn, has been in transit square your natal Jupiter 4° Libra, so the growth has been limited, especially challenged in outward expression. The growth now needs to be more internal where time's effect upon it is better understood, that steps and proportional expectations at each stage are wise.

Uranus 24° Aries has been finishing up its transit square to your natal Uranus-Neptune conjunction 20-21° Capricorn. That is a challenging transit relating to change itself, and a testing of how well your beliefs and concept of the world are actually working. Neptune is infamous for facilitating fantasy and romantic notions until we wake up to how we can use the power of imagination proactively to envision our happiness and create it without attempting to over-specify what form it must take in the outside world. It holds our inner potentials of vision and visual (or sonic) creativity, but it is easy to get distracted by worldly (external) baubles and lures. Uranus square natal Neptune can be a period of confusion because our experience is not matching with our beliefs (assumptions) about how things work or what is supposed to happen.

Uranus has also been quincunx to your natal Pluto. This transit played the role of unexpected interrupted developments in your relationship with the intense Scorpionic person. These outer trans-personal planets are influences towards being more in touch with the higher self and soul expression than with human particulars. Not an easy lesson to learn. The quincunx aspect, especially when Uranus is involved, relates to changes that arise seemingly without warning that can be upsetting or feel like a serious setback. There is more to learn about detachment while maintaining openness to the whole cosmos filled with wonder and beings with whom we can relate in so many different and astounding ways.

Neptune 12° Pisces transits natal Mars 11° Leo. Neptune-Mars transits relate to disappointed fancies, challenges to ego and drives that may've put you on a presumptive course. There was and is reason to doubt those assumptions and that direction in which your Martial energies were engaged in Leonine romantic or impassioned ways. Don't fall into self-doubt through this, just doubt any assumptions you made and what you thought you'd captured for yourself. Remember, our biggest life lessons come through disappointments and setbacks. Look for more spiritual insight (superconscious). Hypnosis can be an effective tool used during such transits so long as there is an intention to heal not use it as a sensational fishing expedition or fantasy session.

Maybe more importantly, Neptune is in transit square your natal Nodes 12° Sag/Gemini. That alone indicates that it is not a good time to move forward with plans based on apparent circumstances as you described in this brief relationship. When Neptune aspects the Nodes, it can take quite an effort to clarify what is of spiritual-emotional importance to you and to take hold of the feeling and vision, rather than absorbing it from some fantasy or romanticism already in place in society and applying it presumptuously to your own life. This is not denial of your hopes and dreams -- quite the contrary. It is time to emphasize getting more in touch with what yours really are, a process that is about internal development, not plans for external arrangements. In other words: a clear vision that comes from your own true self. There must be some clues about that somewhere in your life so far, your past dreams, etc. Did you give up on them? If so, no one else can make you happy.

Reinforcing this, and possibly most important of all, Pluto 19° Capricorn is in transit up high in your chart applying conjunct natal Uranus-Neptune. This is a transit that I've talked about recently with others who have posted here, because they're about your same age. It is a transit of transformation of your conceptual framework, life philosophy and life vision, belief system, etc. You'll have to understand the necessity of change, changing your life for more freedom, changing your belief structures for more clarity and understanding. People experience it different ways, but with Pluto conjunct but Uranus and Neptune, it can be trying, as if the circumstances are unnecessarily disruptive -- but that is only if you assume that your life should not be dramatically altered now so that you can have greater freedom and interaction with both the outer and conceptual worlds. You need more tools of experience in which your concepts of life and yourself are going to be tested a couple more years. Use it as a period in which you don't make assumptions about the way things should develop and make no particular far-reaching plans or decisions. Just keep experiencing and learning, only making changes as needed with each experience and each lesson you learn.

So where you are now ... what have you learned and what changes is your life calling for?

Certainly it seems healing is called for so your heart can be in a good place again with joy, hope, and love.

posted January 22, 2018 09:51 PM            

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Originally posted by taurusprettyrising:
https://imgur.com/a/XC1C9

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{Remove the 's' from 'http' to energize links.}

chart for LL taurusprettyrising

http://imgur.com/a/XC1C9

posted January 23, 2018 01:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
So what we can see looking at your chart is that Jupiter has been in transit through the 7th house of relationships, facilitating growth and confidence in that area of your life. Jupiter is now 20° Scorpio, so it transits conjunct your natal Pluto 23° Scorpio. That can mean dramatic experiences in relationships, particularly where it seems the 'other' has the power. However, it is also a transit that can allow you to find a new start of [b]empowerment by learning from persons of depth.

Simultaneous to this, Saturn near 4° Capricorn, has been in transit square your natal Jupiter 4° Libra, so the growth has been limited, especially challenged in outward expression. The growth now needs to be more internal where time's effect upon it is better understood, that steps and proportional expectations at each stage are wise.

Uranus 24° Aries has been finishing up its transit square to your natal Uranus-Neptune conjunction 20-21° Capricorn. That is a challenging transit relating to change itself, and a testing of how well your beliefs and concept of the world are actually working. Neptune is infamous for facilitating fantasy and romantic notions until we wake up to how we can use the power of imagination proactively to envision our happiness and create it without attempting to over-specify what form it must take in the outside world. It holds our inner potentials of vision and visual (or sonic) creativity, but it is easy to get distracted by worldly (external) baubles and lures. Uranus square natal Neptune can be a period of confusion because our experience is not matching with our beliefs (assumptions) about how things work or what is supposed to happen.

Uranus has also been quincunx to your natal Pluto. This transit played the role of unexpected interrupted developments in your relationship with the intense Scorpionic person. These outer trans-personal planets are influences towards being more in touch with the higher self and soul expression than with human particulars. Not an easy lesson to learn. The quincunx aspect, especially when Uranus is involved, relates to changes that arise seemingly without warning that can be upsetting or feel like a serious setback. There is more to learn about detachment while maintaining openness to the whole cosmos filled with wonder and beings with whom we can relate in so many different and astounding ways.

Neptune 12° Pisces transits natal Mars 11° Leo. Neptune-Mars transits relate to disappointed fancies, challenges to ego and drives that may've put you on a presumptive course. There was and is reason to doubt those assumptions and that direction in which your Martial energies were engaged in Leonine romantic or impassioned ways. Don't fall into self-doubt through this, just doubt any assumptions you made and what you thought you'd captured for yourself. Remember, our biggest life lessons come through disappointments and setbacks. Look for more spiritual insight (superconscious). Hypnosis can be an effective tool used during such transits so long as there is an intention to heal not use it as a sensational fishing expedition or fantasy session.

Maybe more importantly, Neptune is in transit square your natal Nodes 12° Sag/Gemini. That alone indicates that it is not a good time to move forward with plans based on apparent circumstances as you described in this brief relationship. When Neptune aspects the Nodes, it can take quite an effort to clarify what is of spiritual-emotional importance to you and to take hold of the feeling and vision, rather than absorbing it from some fantasy or romanticism already in place in society and applying it presumptuously to your own life. This is not denial of your hopes and dreams -- quite the contrary. It is time to emphasize getting more in touch with what yours really are, a process that is about internal development, not plans for external arrangements. In other words: a clear vision that comes from your own true self. There must be some clues about that somewhere in your life so far, your past dreams, etc. Did you give up on them? If so, no one else can make you happy.

Reinforcing this, and possibly most important of all, Pluto 19° Capricorn is in transit up high in your chart applying conjunct natal Uranus-Neptune. This is a transit that I've talked about recently with others who have posted here, because they're about your same age. It is a transit of transformation of your conceptual framework, life philosophy and life vision, belief system, etc. You'll have to understand the necessity of change, changing your life for more freedom, changing your belief structures for more clarity and understanding. People experience it different ways, but with Pluto conjunct but Uranus and Neptune, it can be trying, as if the circumstances are unnecessarily disruptive -- but that is only if you assume that your life should not be dramatically altered now so that you can have greater freedom and interaction with both the outer and conceptual worlds. You need more tools of experience in which your concepts of life and yourself are going to be tested a couple more years. Use it as a period in which you don't make assumptions about the way things should develop and make no particular far-reaching plans or decisions. Just keep experiencing and learning, only making changes as needed with each experience and each lesson you learn.

So where you are now ... what have you learned and what changes is your life calling for?

Certainly it seems healing is called for so your heart can be in a good place again with joy, hope, and love.

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posted January 23, 2018 01:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
If you are Taurus rising, his Scorpio stellium is activating your 7th house big time so you would naturally feel he meets all your soulmate wishes.

Do you have any strong planet squaring or opposing his stellium?

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hmmm..
I have to upload his chart but Idk which folder I stuffed it away in!

posted January 23, 2018 01:27 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Yes the 7th house is like another Venus so his stellium on your 7th will make you very attracted to him.

Thanks Kannon for taking the time to see her chart and provide an analysis.

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thank you I didn't know that! I seem to attract this sign quite often more than others and I didn't know why. my best friend of 7 years is a Scorpio. I don't approach them at all they wander to me but I like their energy a lot...

posted January 23, 2018 01:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
If you are Taurus rising, his Scorpio stellium is activating your 7th house big time so you would naturally feel he meets all your soulmate wishes.

Do you have any strong planet squaring or opposing his stellium?

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posted January 23, 2018 01:52 PM            

You also have your Chiron square this stellium. Again, the orb is wide but I will allow it for stellium.

posted January 23, 2018 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
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Your moon in Taurus is opposing his stellium. The orb is not tight, but since it's a stellium (therefore the heat of the planets together is greater), I will allow for wider orbs.

You also have your Chiron square this stellium. Again, the orb is wide but I will allow it for stellium.

The main problem I see is that his ascendant is Sagg, so his Scorpio Stellium falls in his 12th house. Can't get into too much details but this is not an ideal combo for a relationship. His is loading up your 7th house with his stellium, but you're not putting any planets in his 7th house. The result of this imbalance is that you will be more into having a relationship with him than him with you.

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posted January 23, 2018 02:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
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Your moon in Taurus is opposing his stellium. The orb is not tight, but since it's a stellium (therefore the heat of the planets together is greater), I will allow for wider orbs.

You also have your Chiron square this stellium. Again, the orb is wide but I will allow it for stellium.

The main problem I see is that his ascendant is Sagg, so his Scorpio Stellium falls in his 12th house. Can't get into too much details but this is not an ideal combo for a relationship. His is loading up your 7th house with his stellium, but you're not putting any planets in his 7th house. The result of this imbalance is that you will be more into having a relationship with him than him with you.

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