posted January 23, 2018 03:06 PM            

Unfortunately, I couldn’t find his chart on Astrodatabank. Maybe he would object to it.

posted January 23, 2018 03:19 PM            

You could compare the charts yourself in order they are listed, that way they're kinda random. Look at the aspects. I think you'll find Saturn, Jupiter, Neptune worth attention.

posted January 23, 2018 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Just entered search term "atheist" in the ADB search tool.

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posted January 23, 2018 05:20 PM            

I have seen a solo Uranus in the 9th is also pretty common with atheists and others who question religion. I have this myself.

The 9th house rules over philosophical thought so it would also have a place somewhere in deciphering spiritual people and religious people from those who do not believe and etc.

I checked his chart, he has a lot of PIsces and Taurus there. While I am not sure what his rising could be, I would assume his Uranus in Taurus could be in the 9th or 11th whereas the Jupiter and Saturn in Taurus could be in the 8th or 10th. A similar situation could be occurring with his Moon, Mercury, and Venus in Pisces (depending on the degree of his ASC). It's possible that Mercury in PIsces is in the 9th!

I don't think Neptune or the 12th house has a part in this man's chart (religion wise) as Neptune in any of the houses I mentioned is common in monotheists or those who are open to religious thought. The same with the 12th house, I don't think any of the aforementioned planets would be in the 12th as that typically heightens spiritual beliefs rather than making someone a questioner.

posted January 23, 2018 05:49 PM            

I told you any aspect/placement that has to do with Neptune and Jupiter because I think they have to do with religion and faith.

I think Uranus in 6th H conjunct 7th H cusp
and opposite Sun has something to do with me being atheist..
But the main culprit should be my Mercury in 1st H in conjunction with South Node.
Someone told me that I am very logical person and it is true and I was wondering why I have such a strong logic especially when I am so emotional and I have so much Pisces and Cancer in my chart.

I can not believe in something that is not practically proven.. And whatever I learnt about God when I was in school it sounded like a tale. I remember myself thinking as a kid that no one really believes in God and it is just like a tradition.. I was shocked when I realised that people indeed believe in God.

I believe in astrology because it is practically proven to me that it works.. so something is definately right about it.. I have made so many people believe in it when they thought that it is pure **** and the only reason they did is because it got to a point where they couldn't practically deny it anymore, otherwise no one woyld believe no matter how much I told them about personal predictions or how astrology really works.

People are kind of forced to believe in God
I find it wrong that parents and teachers brainwash children like that. I remember a girl which grew up with her grandma who read tarot cards.. It was like a hobby for her.. The girl had realised since she was 6 yo that her grandma's predictions never came true.. Despite of that she came to believe in tarot cards just because her grandma did although it was practically proven a hundred times to her through all those years, that it didn't work.
It is a different thing if tarot cards work or not.. it may even depend to the one who is reading them.. let's say that her grandmother had not the charisma.. My point is that the girl still believed in tarot readings although practically in her environment it was proven that tarot cards didn't really work.
Similarly if a family believes in vampires the children will believe in vampires..
If you tell anyone though that Vampires exist he will think that you're crazy.. because he hasn't seen any.. the exact same thing would happen with God if people weren't brainwashed since a very young age to believe in him.
And somehow if many people believe in something it automatically becomes true..

I haven't seen or felt God, but let's say God exists and created us.. I can not find a reason to believe/love him.. He does nothing to guide/protect/help us somehow. It is like a mother who gives birth to a child and then she abandons it only to show up years later and say to her son that she loves him and expects him to love her just because she gave him birth. That woman is a total stranger to her son who has no reason to love her and believe her since she wasn't there to nurture/protect/guide/love him..
Same goes for God..

When my dad dies my grandmother told me that God knows and has his plans. If a person though had killed my father and told her "trust me I killed because I have a great plan.. I know what I'm doing" she would have killed him at the same moment and would hate him for the rest of her life.

Even if God exists (I an open to that idea but I won't ever be able to believe in God's existence if it is not proven) and even he has a bigger plan.. how can I believe in him or his plan when he hasn't show me anything?
Would you believe that someone who has never known or seen you loves you and cares for you? Of course not. He has to prove to you that he lives you practically.

Anyway I'll stop here.. That is just my opinion and below is my chart just in case

posted January 23, 2018 06:12 PM            

Sun is also conjunct the ASC and the ASC ruler is Moon in Pisces in the 9th. Pisces is known for being the most spiritual and religious-inclined and the 9th house is the natural friend of Pisces (and Neptune),.

However, in this case, Moon in PIsces in the 9th
is ruler of the ASC and trine the planet closest to the ASC (ironically, the planet of the ego and the personality) AND also opposite Uranus (planet of free thought and destruction or organized belief systems) and Neptune (planet of religion), there is clearly some conflict happening here.

I don't really see what the nodes have to do here, but since you brought it up I think it's interesting that your NN is conjunct Uranus and Neptune also opposite the Sun in the 12th. From your own words, you clearly do not fully believe god is not real but you are also quite reasonably skeptical. This is an ongoing conflict that is apparent in your chart. You have the open-ended faith of your Sun in the 12th and Moon in Pisces in the 9th but Uranus, Neptune, and the NN (karmic destiny) all in logical Capricorn AND opposite the Sun causes you to be highly skeptical of what is the truth.

posted January 23, 2018 08:52 PM              

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I am an atheist but I don't have any idea what causes it..
Pisces Moon in 9th H
Cancer Sun in 12th H
Neptune in 7th H cusp
Neptune opposite Sun
Jupiter square Pluto
Cancer Mercury

I told you any aspect/placement that has to do with Neptune and Jupiter because I think they have to do with religion and faith.

I think Uranus in 6th H conjunct 7th H cusp
and opposite Sun has something to do with me being atheist..
But the main culprit should be my Mercury in 1st H in conjunction with South Node.
Someone told me that I am very logical person and it is true and I was wondering why I have such a strong logic especially when I am so emotional and I have so much Pisces and Cancer in my chart.

I can not believe in something that is not practically proven.. And whatever I learnt about God when I was in school it sounded like a tale. I remember myself thinking as a kid that no one really believes in God and it is just like a tradition.. I was shocked when I realised that people indeed believe in God.

I believe in astrology because it is practically proven to me that it works.. so something is definately right about it.. I have made so many people believe in it when they thought that it is pure **** and the only reason they did is because it got to a point where they couldn't practically deny it anymore, otherwise no one woyld believe no matter how much I told them about personal predictions or how astrology really works.

People are kind of forced to believe in God
I find it wrong that parents and teachers brainwash children like that. I remember a girl which grew up with her grandma who read tarot cards.. It was like a hobby for her.. The girl had realised since she was 6 yo that her grandma's predictions never came true.. Despite of that she came to believe in tarot cards just because her grandma did although it was practically proven a hundred times to her through all those years, that it didn't work.
It is a different thing if tarot cards work or not.. it may even depend to the one who is reading them.. let's say that her grandmother had not the charisma.. My point is that the girl still believed in tarot readings although practically in her environment it was proven that tarot cards didn't really work.
Similarly if a family believes in vampires the children will believe in vampires..
If you tell anyone though that Vampires exist he will think that you're crazy.. because he hasn't seen any.. the exact same thing would happen with God if people weren't brainwashed since a very young age to believe in him.
And somehow if many people believe in something it automatically becomes true..

I haven't seen or felt God, but let's say God exists and created us.. I can not find a reason to believe/love him.. He does nothing to guide/protect/help us somehow. It is like a mother who gives birth to a child and then she abandons it only to show up years later and say to her son that she loves him and expects him to love her just because she gave him birth. That woman is a total stranger to her son who has no reason to love her and believe her since she wasn't there to nurture/protect/guide/love him..
Same goes for God..

When my dad dies my grandmother told me that God knows and has his plans. If a person though had killed my father and told her "trust me I killed because I have a great plan.. I know what I'm doing" she would have killed him at the same moment and would hate him for the rest of her life.

Even if God exists (I an open to that idea but I won't ever be able to believe in God's existence if it is not proven) and even he has a bigger plan.. how can I believe in him or his plan when he hasn't show me anything?
Would you believe that someone who has never known or seen you loves you and cares for you? Of course not. He has to prove to you that he lives you practically.

Anyway I'll stop here.. That is just my opinion and below is my chart just in case

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You sound like every "spiritual but not religious" person in existence. Your "atheism" is generational not individual.

posted January 24, 2018 03:24 AM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
You sound like every "spiritual but not religious" person in existence. Your "atheism" is generational not individual.

You sound very full of yourself too, please tone it down.

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Hi KarkaQueen
It's totally ok if I sound like EVERY spiritual but not religious person, I wish I could meet as many as you since you sound like you know too many of them.

I can't understand how I am full of myself though, I am analyzing my thoughts and feelings and posting my chart because it may help even just one person to understand/find out something astrology wise. And it will be worth it. That is the way I learnt most of the things I know about astrology and that is why I am doing it as a "thanks" to those people who unknownigly helped me. The more general an explanation is the less helpful.
I am not interested in commenting or letting others know about me since I naturally like hiding things and I find it a disadvantage in astrology forums. It is a conscious effort I make whenever I can offer a tiny something. Otherwise it is boring for me and more time consuming considering I have to think in a language I am not perfectly familiar with.

So I could be an atheist because I never really learnt about God or just because my family members/friends were atheists. It makes a huge difference astrology wise.

Anyway I am not sure I get the meaning of "being full of yourself" but it feels like someone who talks a lot about himself?
That is why I gave the above explanation.

posted January 24, 2018 03:38 AM              

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Hi KarkaQueen
It's totally ok if I sound like EVERY spiritual but not religious person, I wish I could meet as many as you since you sound like you know too many of them.

I can't understand how I am full of myself though, I am analyzing my thoughts and feelings and posting my chart because it may help even just one person to understand/find out something astrology wise. And it will be worth it. That is the way I learnt most of the things I know about astrology and that is why I am doing it as a "thanks" to those people who unknownigly helped me. The more general an explanation is the less helpful.
I am not interested in commenting or letting others know about me since I naturally like hiding things and I find it a disadvantage in astrology forums. It is a conscious effort I make whenever I can offer a tiny something. Otherwise it is boring for me and more time consuming considering I have to think in a language I am not perfectly familiar with.

So I could be an atheist because I never really learnt about God or just because my family members/friends were atheists. It makes a huge difference astrology wise.

Anyway I am not sure I get the meaning of "being full of yourself" but it feels like someone who talks a lot about himself?
That is why I gave the above explanation.

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They're all over the internet. Lol sheesh. It's most people in Western countries these days.

It's just not important or a big deal anymore

posted January 24, 2018 04:44 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I am an atheist but I don't have any idea what causes it..
Pisces Moon in 9th H
Cancer Sun in 12th H
Neptune in 7th H cusp
Neptune opposite Sun
Jupiter square Pluto
Cancer Mercury

I told you any aspect/placement that has to do with Neptune and Jupiter because I think they have to do with religion and faith.

I think Uranus in 6th H conjunct 7th H cusp
and opposite Sun has something to do with me being atheist..
But the main culprit should be my Mercury in 1st H in conjunction with South Node.
Someone told me that I am very logical person and it is true and I was wondering why I have such a strong logic especially when I am so emotional and I have so much Pisces and Cancer in my chart.

I can not believe in something that is not practically proven.. And whatever I learnt about God when I was in school it sounded like a tale. I remember myself thinking as a kid that no one really believes in God and it is just like a tradition.. I was shocked when I realised that people indeed believe in God.

I believe in astrology because it is practically proven to me that it works.. so something is definately right about it.. I have made so many people believe in it when they thought that it is pure **** and the only reason they did is because it got to a point where they couldn't practically deny it anymore, otherwise no one woyld believe no matter how much I told them about personal predictions or how astrology really works.

People are kind of forced to believe in God
I find it wrong that parents and teachers brainwash children like that. I remember a girl which grew up with her grandma who read tarot cards.. It was like a hobby for her.. The girl had realised since she was 6 yo that her grandma's predictions never came true.. Despite of that she came to believe in tarot cards just because her grandma did although it was practically proven a hundred times to her through all those years, that it didn't work.
It is a different thing if tarot cards work or not.. it may even depend to the one who is reading them.. let's say that her grandmother had not the charisma.. My point is that the girl still believed in tarot readings although practically in her environment it was proven that tarot cards didn't really work.
Similarly if a family believes in vampires the children will believe in vampires..
If you tell anyone though that Vampires exist he will think that you're crazy.. because he hasn't seen any.. the exact same thing would happen with God if people weren't brainwashed since a very young age to believe in him.
And somehow if many people believe in something it automatically becomes true..

I haven't seen or felt God, but let's say God exists and created us.. I can not find a reason to believe/love him.. He does nothing to guide/protect/help us somehow. It is like a mother who gives birth to a child and then she abandons it only to show up years later and say to her son that she loves him and expects him to love her just because she gave him birth. That woman is a total stranger to her son who has no reason to love her and believe her since she wasn't there to nurture/protect/guide/love him..
Same goes for God..

When my dad dies my grandmother told me that God knows and has his plans. If a person though had killed my father and told her "trust me I killed because I have a great plan.. I know what I'm doing" she would have killed him at the same moment and would hate him for the rest of her life.

Even if God exists (I an open to that idea but I won't ever be able to believe in God's existence if it is not proven) and even he has a bigger plan.. how can I believe in him or his plan when he hasn't show me anything?
Would you believe that someone who has never known or seen you loves you and cares for you? Of course not. He has to prove to you that he lives you practically.

Anyway I'll stop here.. That is just my opinion and below is my chart just in case

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god is real, he's not a human he is the living life force in us, he is our spirit

you can't find god because he's already with you...he is everywhere, he is everything.

the fact that we are living in a floating ball (earth) that is sitting in a void of darkness should be enough to know he's real. he gave you free will to either believe in him and do what he put you here to do or you can denounce him and say he's fake/nonexistent

I mean **** guys. Just look at the Earth. It is spinning around the ******* sun and we can't feel a thing. The Sun and Moon always rise and set accordingly. I mean if you've ever felt true contentment you would know he's real. Bad things happen because of humans, not God. He simply creates and gives us personality (our Sun); and like I said you can blame everything on him if you want but all he loves us and continues to give us life. Humans have free will, you can do what you want with it but look at our world. Society isn't geared the best. Money - you don't even take it with you when you die. You don't take **** . Just your spirit. Look beyond the facade and actually try to picture nature and the world itself. God didn't make guns, nuclear weapons, Nazis, Slavery, Disease... he just made the people who chose to perform these acts. God will not interfere with the human world when it comes to our own conscious sin. If we choose to question him he doesn't care. He still loves you, but he won't show himself if you don't believe he's EVERYTHING. From the energy and the cosmos.

I have a hard time believing the galaxies and solar systems just formed out of nothing. Something had to create it, that energy that made that planet is God himself. God made Earth, he was the star, the sun, everything that composed our planet. He IS the big bang theory. He IS the light. He IS the sun. He is even us, this is why no one has the same personality. If God didn't give us free will would act just like the birds - completely present in the moment. Animals don't know death, money, or any of that **** . They just live, which is how humans are supposed to be. There is honestly no reason why our society is so ****** . Why is Trump the ******* president. Why is music so crap now. Why is everything manufactured. God just wants us to love one another, be present in his spirit, and live to the fullest. He didn't make any of the **** that has corrupted our minds for centuries. Humans did because we sin and truly only care about our own well-being. This laptop I'm using was constructed by a human not God. God just creates and it's simple as that. He is a spirit and once you pass I'm sure there will be something waiting for us on the other side. It is difficult to have faith and belief in a society now that is so advanced. Most people probably don't even think they need him. Our world is slowly killing itself. Literally all we have to do is get together and show love to one another. Life is so complicated for no damn reason. If you ask me the animals got it right. We will eventually have to pay for all this damage and I don't know when but that will probably be Judgement Day were God finally cleanses Earth for the better.

posted January 24, 2018 07:10 AM            

You don't really have to be upset about it
It is natural that someone being an atheist tells you something about his personality, same goes for me.
It seems you didn't read that I believe in humans and unseen floating energy.
From your description of God we may even believe in the very same thing but you name it God and I name it unseen energy.
For me God has to do with Jesus Christ and his mother and all the tales that we were teached in school which are ridiculous.

You say that we should love each other yet you accuse humans for everything bad that happens while everything good is thanks to God.
Don't you find that a bit unfair to humans that we should love?
If God created everything then he created the bad things too.. If humans do the bad things then they are also the ones we have to thank for the good things. If everything good achieved by humans is because God gave them existence and their brain.. then everything bad has come from that very same brain that God gave to humans.
The example with the mother that abandons her baby after she gave birth to it is the best I can think of. Humans are like an abandoned baby. They had to learn how to survive on their own, exactly like an abandoned toddler who found a way to survive on its own till he became a grown man.
You say that everything gets worse.. it is again of the idealisation of the past.. Ask women who were treated like objects to please men and have children. They couldn't work they couldn't have an opinion they were treated like garbage and they were killed by their own parents if they ever dared to think about divorce. We have so many options and freedom compared to them and we don't appreciate them.. Ask my grandmother though.. Telling how lucky are women nowadays and that they wish they could just have the option to follow their dreams at least choose their life partner.. You know girls were raped and then their parents killed them because they felt ashamed that she was raped? She was considered a sl*t. Can you believe this?? It still happens to some countries.. It is because their brain which according to you God gave us is still undeveloped. Their God says that men can rape women and can kill other people..

Anout music being crap.. just because you do not like it or you haven't searched enough to find something that you like doesn't mean that others do not like it too. That is your opinion and as you said everyone is different so having more options is always better.

Have you ever talked with very old people?
I have and what I am listening about how people were exactly if not worse that what they are now in many different ways.. The difference is that at that time people were secretive and there was no way to communicate with so many different people and learn about what was happening in other places of the world or even better in other regions of their own country.. Today we have internet and we learn about everything that is happening to the world in an instant.. We have a way to anonymously express ourselves.. this combined with the freedom we have to express ourselves is what makes you feel that people are getting worse.. Just because we know about it now it doesn't mean that it didn't happen in the past. Earth was supposed to be flat because that is what people believed yet earth was always spherical wven when the whole world believed that it was flat. Yet a person was killed when he expressed his opinion about earth being round. Go figure.. people were getting killed just because they had the guts to express a different opinion.. No wonder that everything was done in secret.

I believe that everything has a logical-practical explanation, so many things have proven to be logically explained but it takes many years so many people are not even alive in order to see that what they believed at some point to be a mystery created by God has a logical explanation..

Nice if you believe in God or anything else really, if you respect humans and show some understanding and respect and try to be the best version of yourself then it's fine even if you believe in vampires.
Many people say that they believe in God and they go to church but in reality they are disrespectful to others and they are trying hard to play nice.. That is hypocricy. I prefer a bad person who shows his true self instead of a hypocrite playing nice and all.

posted January 24, 2018 10:03 AM            

My partner has Neptune Retrograde, although he has moon in Sag, he's not that spiritual or religious. He also has mercury in Cancer.

He processes those things in a logic way and sometimes he questions me to the point that sometimes I feel he's trying to change my views into his, which of course it's impossible as my mind is fixated.

The thing that I've learned from him and one of my friend who claims that he is an atheism is that they come from some disappointment in early of their life (it's run deep) or maybe later in their mid life, OR maybe lack of some directions in the early of their life. Both can be very open minded but at the same time has narrow view on certain things.

posted January 24, 2018 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Pisces is quite spiritual by default, so they could easily naturally reject a religion that they feel limits them. Neptune would/could be indicative as well.

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posted January 24, 2018 03:10 PM            

Or is atheism the disregard of religious dogma whether christian/Hindi/Islam/Jewish etc?

What I have come to know is that very few people are indifferent to consciousness and the subsequent role that it plays in their life.

Whether this awareness may be to deny the existence of such a being on one hand or to be impassioned enough to spread the "good news" to all on the other.

Sometimes spiritual awareness is brought on by trauma or as a result of many upheavals in life etc.

The 9th house cusp/planets therein- especially the planet that conjunct the 9th house cusp often denotes our attitude towards our perception of this external force or presence in the universe.

@Plut0nian2

From what I read on your experience, your perception of a higher power is cynical. But I wouldn't say that that would make you an atheist.

It seems to me that you are searching and wanting to understand. Though thus far your approach has been largely defensive(Moon).

Would you say that your experience of consciousness is subject to up/downs(Moon). And also that you may see godhead as a maternal figure whose purpose is to console,comfort, nurture, help and be that feminine force in life?

Moon in 9th places a higher level of importance to find the meaning of things and the thread that connects us all.

It may even encourage one to travel and make the world(9th) their home(Moon) in an effort to find what connects us all. Especially when Pisces is the Moon, the energy drive could be to merge with everyone's experiences and see the world through their eyes.

So far your experience and what you perceive Godhead to be are at odds. As if god is "cold" and does not match at all what you project unto the being- hence the disbelief that the entity exists or is even real.

I myself have Jupiter on the cusp of the 9th in Sag. And I wouldn't say that my relationship with the existence of Godhead/consciousness that is said to exist in the world is any easier.

I perceive Godhead to be open-minded, benevolent, generous,wise, chilled, laugh a minute, joiedevivre inducing presence etc.

But life has not always shown me this consistency. And with my stellium(Sun/Mercury incl) in 9th, the true identity of whom Godhead is and what their nature really is, is a lifelong question that I will forever ponder on.

I feel like my being(Sun) is connected to coming to an answer so as not to be afraid of the constraints of living.

With Sagittarius Jupiter and on the cusp of the 9th, the energy is likely to help me realize my own subjective truth through adopting a more eclectic point of view of Godhead. And like Pisces, I will try to find the common thread.

The only difference being that in my case, I may be inspired(fire) to spread the finding through writing, speaking or putting it out there(Sagittarius).

posted January 24, 2018 05:33 PM            

Developmentally, in the latter teens to the 20s, there comes a point-of-realization that there might be 'more' to life than "just" the routine, and the mundane rote of things.

Works incredibly SLOWLY... or can come suddenly.

There have been MRI 'brain studies' done that attribute the ability to perceive non-local realities to certain places/functions in the brain.

You have to have these places engaged or nerve-wired, in order to Perceive "non-local" realities... IN which, GOD moves, lives, and has a kind of tangible subtle-Beingness.

When a person is in their younger teen years, there's a transit of "Saturn OPP Saturn" that begins to DROP some of the brain's wiring-connections that are not being used.
(~ages 13, 14, 15)

{{I think it's cool that some of you can 'think' in astrology-codes. }}

DURING those years, the brain starts to 'dissolve' certain capabilities and wirings, to make you more 'focused' in your life pursuits and studies. Narrows the field of options FOR us.

There are lots of 'psychic perception abilities', gifts of exceptional human abilities, that some DO have inherently-- but because they never consciously 'discovered' those gifts, these go "latent." .. That is, to go 'missing' during those times. They ARE still there, just disengaged.

It IS possible for those gifts to be RE-AWAKENED during some "transits" --- YES. And sometimes too, some abilities you had might fade into the background ... for a while.
This too shall pass...

Just look at it as being able to exercise a different part of your gifts and abilities.

There are books written on spiritual transits.
(And some day!!! I'll be able to purchase and study them.)

I've already left my 'stories' all around LL.

For me, I've been through an entire 'array' of believing-states.
A few times around the spiritual 'hood!

I had a POWERFUL Lucid-Dream Experience in April 1987, DURING an Eclipse TO my Neptune-rx Libra conjunct Ambrosia-Urania and SPICA.

I was FAR from being in a 'religion' at that time. I was an earthly nursing-mommy of a baby and young toddler. Way TOO busy. Way too tired.

GOD put me into a supernatural realm in my sleep, DURING the Eclipse... over 30 years ago. Nothing can beat Direct-Experience.

It's similar to NDE's. Some people come back WITH "non-local Reality" experiences that re-arranged their Priorities in life.

Yes.

God Exists..... and WE are God's physical Hands and feet, and Heart-Connection TO and ON this planet.

It's not the lack of religion, philosophy or spirituality, dogma, you have--- It's 'how' you express that IN this world.

There are lots of expressions---

Do you 'Make A Difference"?

Can you Connect and Share... in Common-Humanity with an other?

posted January 24, 2018 09:55 PM            

7H Pisces Moon
11H Cancer Saturn
3H Scorpio Mercury opposite 9H Taurus Mars

Compassionate skeptic, absolutely.

posted January 25, 2018 09:23 AM            

I don't know if I am right about atheism but since the world comes from my mother language
it means someone who believes that no God exists. I believe that even religions are just popular enough opinions.. everything is an oponion until it's proof practical of existence, it then becomes a fact.

From my understanding if God was a planet it would be Jupiter for you. On the other hand I feel like God would be an invisible male entity who listens and sees everything and has the power to do whatever he wants, but is choosing to be the troll and has fun by making especially good people suffer. God for me would be Saturn himself. He should be like a father for all of us practically guiding us and being responsible when it comes to his role.. If you have ever seen any of my posts in here it is pretty obvious that I have a huge problem with whatever Saturn represents.. and I feel like his supposed gifts in the end are a tone of ******* to make people have false hopes in order to not lose their minds. Saturn gives duration only to bad things. Pluto is a sexy playful sadist enjoying mind games and power.. Saturn doesn't have a gram of a good quality in him he is an old man that never dies who choses to pass his time by making others suffer endlessly without any particular reason. Thee worst of all is how heartless he is.. he doesn't have an emotional need or a reason to want something like this he does it for swallow purpose.. like "let's **** people's life because I am bored".
I saw a picture some days ago of Saturn as a disgusting old man eating his children. I felt like that picture expressed how I see Saturn better than I could ever do.
God chose to be more like Saturn in Aqua when he was able to be Moon.. Definately though he would have Neptune conjunct 1st H cusp.
So even if God exists he doesn't care about us, he doesn't love us.

If God had to be and abstract powerless all over the place energy then it can not be called God, according to religionGod was the father of Christ and send him to earth to do his magic and stuff so according to that God appears like a conscious entity with super powers or something like that.

That is why I don't believe that God exists.

The first time I learned about our galaxy being the only one something inside me felt so wrong and I was very dissapointed, I felt so sure that there are other galaxies and not just unknown lifeless planets in the dark.
So I didn't really searched much about it until some years ago (maybe 3 or so) someone told me that multiple galaxies have been discovered. It blew my mind.. I always felt like I already knew it and in the end I was right about that feeling.

This opens up at least hundreds of possibilities if not millions.

What if we exist in all these galaxies at the same time but we make different choices in each of them so we end up living completely different lifes?

What if we go to other galaxies after our death?

What if there are human beings who are immortal or have supernatural for us powers?

What if there are human beings who are at the stage we were thousands of years ago and we could understand how the first human was created.

What if there are completely different creatures? How their life is? What do they look like?

Endless mindblowing possibilities

I don't really feel the need to travel arpund the world, I don't think that I will find the trith like that.
I feel the need to travel in other galaxies..
In a million years that may be a child's play.. in a million years or maybe even earlier the earth might have been destroyed.. if not humans may not look like what they do now..
Have you ever thought that tiny creatures like dust mites for example might see us as huge moving objects? As we see planets.
Those millions or billions of galaxies may be a tiny part of something other bigger that we can not even imagine at this point.. and that something bigger may be a part of something even bigger and it goes on like that.
I honestly feel that all the people of this world together are so tiny like a dust might is compared to our galaxy.

And then after so many mind blowing thoughts I am landing back to earth.. Because what we are sure of is the boring routine.. So no matter what the truth is our lives remain the same.

posted January 25, 2018 10:26 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
I think it may come from natal [b]Neptune Retrograde.

My partner has Neptune Retrograde, although he has moon in Sag, he's not that spiritual or religious. He also has mercury in Cancer.

He processes those things in a logic way and sometimes he questions me to the point that sometimes I feel he's trying to change my views into his, which of course it's impossible as my mind is fixated.

The thing that I've learned from him and one of my friend who claims that he is an atheism is that they come from some disappointment in early of their life (it's run deep) or maybe later in their mid life, OR maybe lack of some directions in the early of their life. Both can be very open minded but at the same time has narrow view on certain things.

I have read that Neptune Retrograde people have a lack of deep faith, regarding of what I'm not sure.[/B]

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I don't know if your boyfriend is similar.
In my case I am stating my opinion in hopes to have an interesting conversation, a mental stimuli, I don't really care to make someone believe in what I believe I am interested in seeing how his brain operates (if it operates at all hehe, you know what I mean?) It is a way to have fun and to know the other person and to understand him better in general.

posted January 25, 2018 10:27 AM            

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"I don't have the need to spread the truth.
I will share it but as in a matter of fact thing. I won't go out of my way to make others believe it. It is their choice."

To me, this whole believing and not-believing is very much like believing or not-believing "Astrology".

Trying to get someone interested, or to Believe astrology works?

FIRST, They have to be willing to 'want' to.
THEN, They have to own and put in 'the time' and 'discipline'.
FOR A WHILE, They have to 'work it' for themselves. Watch how others do it.

Then suddenly, there's a 'moment' that comes when they Choose---
Does astrology work, or not?

Saturn is actually 'time' itself?
Without the borders and walls, we wouldn't be able to know where we are in space and time and Light.

It distinguishes you from me. Just the skin, the cell-wall where the sense-receptors are.

The other night (I hadn't thought of it), I suddenly realized that my father had a Saturn Aquarius.

Yeah, he (authority) was incredibly detached-aloof, yet was 'present.'
I felt I didn't count for anything to him. He ignored me for 'being a girl'-- preferred his sons.

But he actually had shown up in silent support ways I hadn't truly thought-about, until I after I reviewed my life events, decade after he died.

He felt like a silent "missing-father."

posted January 25, 2018 11:06 AM            

retrograde jupiter

jupiter in gemini or capricorn

neptune in sagittarius (and maybe virgo or gemini too but I haven't met anybody of those generations to know enough)

* chances would be bigger when the person has a couple of these together, also when saturn is in a hard aspect to jupiter or neptune, although in many of these cases the person would not be an atheist at all, but even very religious and God-fearing, or perhaps religious because of a fear of the hell rather than a love for God and his worship