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SecretGeek
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posted February 25, 2018 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was Venus discovered at Taurus 5 degrees? Was it discovered on the North Node?

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posted February 25, 2018 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Surely you know where Venus was when it was discovered. Right? Check the internet.

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posted February 25, 2018 12:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried to find the discovery chart of Venus to no avail. I tried to find the date in which Venus was discovered. I will quote several sources

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Venus is easy to see with the unaided eye. In fact, it’s the brightest object in the night sky after the Moon, so it’s safe to say that humans have been aware of Venus since people have looked to the skies. In fact, there are 5 planets visible with the unaided eye: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. It’s actually impossible to say who discovered Venus, since the planet has been known since before recorded history. Humans have been on Earth for 200,000 years, so maybe that’s how long we’ve known about the planet.

s: https://www.universetoday.com/38143/who-discovered-venus/


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Because of the visibility, the people from the pre-historic times have known that Venus existed. And since the discovery happened before recorded times, there is no data that can say when this bright planet was exactly discovered.

The Babylonians provide the earliest record of observing this planet at around 1581 BC; the Persians in 1032 made a record of the Transit of Venus. Given the designation of the “morning star” & “evening star”, the Greeks had initially thought that these were two separate stars when in fact it was only one


s: http://planetfacts.org/when-was-venus-discovered/

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There is no single person who is credited with the discovery of Venus. Venus is the brightest of the five planets that can be seen in the night sky without the use of a telescope or binoculars. Since Venus is so bright and noticable in the sky, it was probably seen by the first groups of humans.

s: http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/ask/40-Who-discovered-Venus-

So there is no actual date of discovery of Venus. Because Venus was known to humans since the existence of man. There is actually no discovery of Venus known to us like there is with the outers.

And these are just 3 sources. One is an .edu website.

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posted February 25, 2018 12:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So now that I debunked that Venus was discovered in 5 degree Taurus. Where are you getting your 5 degree theory from?

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posted February 25, 2018 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You likely proved my point. We don't know where all the asteroids and core planets were located when they were injected into our consciousness. Pluto is a different story.

We are mostly guessing about the core planets. As we progress in the AI information age, we will know more and more about the likelihood of where all the planets were located when Venus was discovered. But now, we are mostly guessing based upon data when we first learned to write several thousand years ago.

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posted February 25, 2018 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 5 degree theory is based upon experience and my ability to see patterns in data. Likely my Pluto connections (12th House Mercury is one), Pisces Pallas (8th House), Scorpio Neptune (4th House) or could be Minerva on my Regulus North Node are related. Based upon my own chart rectification.

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posted February 25, 2018 12:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You likely proved my point.

I either proved your point or I didn't. I didn't prove your point other than how asinine it is.

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We don't know where all the asteroids and core planets were located

We also don't know where or when Venus was discovered. So none of this is relevant.

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when they were injected into our consciousness.

Injected into our consciousness? Excuse me?


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The 5 degree theory is based upon experience and my ability to see patterns in data.

So anecdotal experience and umpteenth number of charts of people who have no correlation to each other other than being beautiful or famous.. ok

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Likely my Pluto connections (12th House Mercury is one), Pisces Pallas (8th House), Scorpio Neptune (4th House) or could be Minerva on my Regulus North Node are related.

12th house Mercury huh? So you have an afflicted Mercury. That explains a lot.


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posted February 25, 2018 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lerena:
[QUOTE]Did you ever hear of a person with a planet location born on 5 degrees in a sign is beautiful?
I have not heard this.

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How about on 5 degrees Taurus?
I haven't heard this either, but I have Venus in Taurus at 5 degrees. Admittedly, I have a positive outlook in regards to my appearance. I think I'm beautiful.
[/QUOTE]

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww You go girl!

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posted February 25, 2018 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread is a circlejerk for the OP and people with stuff at 5 degrees lol where is the logic for any of these interpretations? I'm not saying you guys are ugly (never met you) but please at least use something LOGICAL to back this 5 degree thing up. Numerology maybe?? Can you use declinations to prove this? Maybe an old mythology story about the number 5 being of importance to some culture honestly I DON'T KNOW. Really anything. Just give me a lie anything really. I can't read this thread without feeling crazy. There are literally 30 degrees in the zodiac. 8 billion alive, billions more of the past. Of course you see degrees in a pattern like wtf....

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posted February 25, 2018 04:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
This thread is a circlejerk for the OP and people with stuff at 5 degrees lol where is the logic for any of these interpretations? I'm not saying you guys are ugly (never met you) but please at least use something LOGICAL to back this 5 degree thing up. Numerology maybe?? Can you use declinations to prove this? Maybe an old mythology story about the number 5 being of importance to some culture honestly I DON'T KNOW. Really anything. Just give me a lie anything really. I can't read this thread without feeling crazy. There are literally 30 degrees in the zodiac. 8 billion alive, billions more of the past. Of course you see degrees in a pattern like wtf....

I know right? Damn.

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posted February 25, 2018 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol

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posted February 25, 2018 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It should come as no surprise that Nikola Tesla's Venus was conjunct the discovery location of 12th house Cancer Pluto. Additionally, his Pluto was on 5 degrees Taurus, which was where the North Node was when Pluto was discovered. He also has BML and Saturn on 5 degree locations. A person can't make this stuff up. It is so obvious this man had a beautiful mind.

"There has been a resurgence in popular interest in Tesla since the 1990s.[11]His intellectual achievements and originality have made him named a "genius".[12][13][14]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

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posted February 25, 2018 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
This thread is a circlejerk for the OP and people with stuff at 5 degrees lol where is the logic for any of these interpretations? I'm not saying you guys are ugly (never met you) but please at least use something LOGICAL to back this 5 degree thing up. Numerology maybe?? Can you use declinations to prove this? Maybe an old mythology story about the number 5 being of importance to some culture honestly I DON'T KNOW. Really anything. Just give me a lie anything really. I can't read this thread without feeling crazy. There are literally 30 degrees in the zodiac. 8 billion alive, billions more of the past. Of course you see degrees in a pattern like wtf....

I understand what your point is. I already considered that before I created this thread. Please be patient and I can try to help you understand.

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posted February 25, 2018 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
lol

Pluto's astrological beauty is power:

"Pluto Is Beautiful, Complex and Thoroughly Puzzling for Scientists"
http://www.space.com/30836-pluto-flyby-new-horizons-science-results.html

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posted February 25, 2018 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pierce Brosnan has Cancer Uranus conjunct the 12th house Pluto discovery location. Within Pluto upon discovery, Venus was exalted and the North Node location was on 5 degrees Taurus. In other words, Pierce got all the beautiful goodies in Pluto just by his Uranus.


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posted February 25, 2018 09:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


OP is still posting nonsense

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posted February 25, 2018 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
OP is still posting nonsense

The ancients knew of the exaltation degrees thousands of years ago. The degrees I am mostly referring to are close to exalted degree locations:

Moon: 3rd degree of Taurus
Jupiter: 15th degree of Cancer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exaltation_(astrology)

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posted February 25, 2018 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is this related to?

Beauty of 5th degree?

OR

You wanting it to be degree of beauty coz u got ur Chiron there?

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posted February 26, 2018 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
What is this related to?

Beauty of 5th degree?

OR

You wanting it to be degree of beauty coz u got ur Chiron there?


The best as I can tell right now, it looks like the 5 degree beauty theory has something to do with whatever is in Taurus around 5 degrees. Maybe the center of the big bang? The Pluto discovery resonates with it. As such, the 10th house North Node location at 5 degrees Taurus when Pluto was discovered seems to resonate with most other 5 degree sign locations usually providing some type of beauty. For example, my 2nd house Virgo Pluto trine at 6 degrees resonates with it.

Pluto's 12th house discovery location in Cancer around 18 degrees seems to invoke the Taurus 5 degree beauty theory.

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posted February 26, 2018 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto seems to be associated with wealth. This small lottery winner has Jupiter, Pluto, and Mars conjunct to the Pluto discovery location in 12th house Cancer. What a beautiful kite formation. The winner also had Saturn at 5 degrees (Capricorn) which is trine to the North Node location when Pluto was discovered at 5 degrees Taurus.

Link to AstroDataBank record: http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Research:Lucky:_Lottery_44284

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posted February 26, 2018 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Warren Buffett is one of the richest men in the world. He has Pluto and Jupiter conjunct the Pluto discovery location in 12th house Cancer. He also has Saturn at 5 degrees (Capricorn) trine to the North Node when Pluto was discovered at 5 degrees Taurus. He also has the Moon at 5 degrees (Sag).


"He is considered one of the most successful investors in the world[3][4] and has a net worth of $87.5 billion as of February 17, 2018, making him the third wealthiest person in the United States and in the world.[5]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett

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posted February 27, 2018 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
George Michael tapped into Cancer Pluto in the 12th. His North Node and Asc were conjunct the discovery location of Pluto and likely invokes the Pluto North Node at five degrees Taurus. You might be able to hear it is his voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve05JTK0MjE


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Oh yeah
Work

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"Boy, everything she wants is everything she sees"
I guess I must have loved you
'Cause I said you were the perfect girl for me, baby

But now we're six months older
And everything you want and everything you see
Is out of reach, not good enough
I don't know what the hell you want from me but boy

Somebody tell me, won't you tell me
Why I work so hard for you?
Give you money
All to give you money

Some people work for a living
Some people work for fun, girl, I just work for you
They told me marriage was a give and take
Well, show me you can take you've got some giving to do

And now you tell me that you're having my baby
I'll tell you that I'm happy if you want me to
But one step further and my back will break
If my best isn't good enough
Than how can it be good enough for two?
I can't work any harder than I do

Somebody tell me, won't you tell me?
Why I work so hard for you?
Give you money
All to give you money

Why do I do the things I do? I'd tell you if I knew
My God, I don't even think that I love you

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posted March 05, 2018 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Pluto threads.

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posted March 05, 2018 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I love Pluto threads.

TY Randall, me also.

Here is a multi-composite chart including the discoveries of Neptune, Pluto, Uranus, and my natal. If energies are additive, then the combined energy's North Node is on the Cancer Pluto discovery location. Also, there are two kite formations. One kite energy target points to Mars and the other to the North Node. The shared Grand Trine is a Grand Water Trine. Pluto is the only listed planet in Detriment and four others listed are in Domicile.

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posted March 11, 2018 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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