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Topic: Do you hold a prejudice against a specific sign energy?
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 5138 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 07, 2018 08:50 AM
This could be either Sun/Mo/Ven/Mar?Its really silly I know. And I didn't think that I hold any such ill will towards any energy. But yesterday I went on a date with someone. And in between exchanging stories, they revealed they were born under the sign of Pisces. Even giving me birth details. I couldn't help but do a quick scan on their chart when I got home. Because even though the date was not horrible, I didn't feel they were the right "fit" and didn't want to pursue it further. When I checked, Venus in Cap/Mars in Cap with Aqua Moon and Mercury. And I thought "well no wonder they seemed so "chilly". Pisces Sun is to me foreign territory-despite Sun-Nept conj in my chart,I don't meet up with many that draw me in. I quickly overlooked that but was uncomfortable with Aqua and double Cap on Venus and Mars. Too dry for me maybe. Now I wonder if I am not being stupid about this. I mean it was date 1 and it was not horrible. But there was no " connect". Maybe there was shyness on his side eh...I don't know. On the other hand I think my prejudice towards the said energies in the chart,is throwing the baby out with the water? You guys ever experienced this? IP: Logged |
DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 518 From: Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted March 07, 2018 08:58 AM
It goes in cycles for me. I will dispise a particular sign or placement on Monday..then they surprise me next Friday.I'm starting to think every placement has a chance to prove there good qualities and there bad qualities. Just depends on the situation or if the enviroment is there to make them shine or fail. My Planets ========================================= ☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑
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SecretGeek Knowflake Posts: 495 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 07, 2018 09:03 AM
IMO there is nothing in astrology that is positive or negative. All is neutral. The bias and choices make them negative or positive.IP: Logged |
DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 518 From: Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted March 07, 2018 09:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by SecretGeek: IMO there is nothing in astrology that is positive or negative. All are neutral. The bias and choices make them negative or positive.
Yes. But riddle me this if someone has negative transits it will bring all the negative qualities. Then if they learned there lessons a good solar return whould bring out of the best of them!!. My Planets ========================================= ☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑ IP: Logged |
SecretGeek Knowflake Posts: 495 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 07, 2018 09:15 AM
IMO there are no negative transits in astrology. That is bias.IP: Logged |
DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 518 From: Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted March 07, 2018 09:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by SecretGeek: IMO there are no negative transits in astrology. That is bias.
I'm refering to transits that indicate hardships which people have to overcome. If they get throught them they become a better person. If they don't they will have learn them again. I Assume you'll disagree with that too!!! My Planets ========================================= ☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑ IP: Logged |
SecretGeek Knowflake Posts: 495 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 07, 2018 09:30 AM
The flesh is contrary to the human spirit. What may seem negative might really be positive and vice-versa. An example is death of the flesh for those believing in an afterlife outside of the flesh.IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3303 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted March 07, 2018 09:35 AM
It is naive to believe everything will be roses all the time. That will create an imbalance & disharmony.I understand to discourage negative thinking you say, "there is no such thing as bad transits" however, that is not reality.
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SecretGeek Knowflake Posts: 495 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 07, 2018 09:46 AM
If we were not spiritual beings, I would prolly agree with you.IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 253 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted March 07, 2018 11:47 AM
I've never been fond of libras or cancers. I have no libra or cancer in my chart but several capricorn and aries placements. I don't dislike them on purpose. I've just noticed the people who often rub me the wrong way have had libra or cancer or both prominent in the chart. Again, it's not on purpose, it's more like I will not like the way they present themselves to me and then a few months later I'll check their chart for the first time ever and voila there is libra and/or cancer prominent. They just rub me the wrong way and I'm not really sure why. I suppose this is a prejudice but idk.IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 5138 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 07, 2018 12:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by SecretGeek: IMO there is nothing in astrology that is positive or negative. All is neutral. The bias and choices make them negative or positive.
True. Is it also possible that if one has terrible experiences with people who have certain positions I.e Moon in Aqua for instance. That one learns to "zone in" on that placement and avoid relations with them? They may have awful experiences with other placements. But they tend to forget about those experiences and have a particular dislike for only Moon in Aqua. As if all are horrible people that should be held at arms length lol. On the other hand if the same person experienced good relations with say Moon in Scorpio folks. Then they would prioritize people who have that position. I recall my 1st day at work and my colleague asked my zodiac sign. And I said "Libra" (My Draco Sun instead of natal) and she cringed saying "they are the worst." So even with novices, there is some prejudice. And sometimes I resist looking up the charts of people I don't like so that I don't cement preconceived notions of any energy. At other times,I can't resist. In this case I do regret looking because I don't think I can move further from this point because if it turns to isht, a part of me will say " you walked right into that" IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 5138 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 07, 2018 12:26 PM
He called about an hour ago and apologized for being "offish". As he said that he was anxious about something involving work(typical Cap energy)He then asked me to accompany him to a beer festival on Friday. I said yes. He sounded a lot livelier on the phone and we shared some jokes which made me wonder where this personality was when we were on the date? I think I will friendzone this one if the 2nd time spent together is not all that. IP: Logged |
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posted March 07, 2018 01:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by SecretGeek: IMO there is nothing in astrology that is positive or negative. All is neutral. The bias and choices make them negative or positive.
Astrology reflects life. Life is negative and positive. This teaching is extremely unreflective of the real world, in which we live in.IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Sweden Registered: Jul 2017
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posted March 07, 2018 01:12 PM
Yes definiaely aries23degrees, it is like throwing the baby out with the water? I don't know how t formulate myself on this, so I will write it just shortly. There is 12 signs, 8 planets and the aspects they have with each other etc. The thing is as we know it, how a person process, transform and use that energy is up to that person. You know we always say we can't judge all geminis, all libras etc for. So for me, no, I would not react the wa you do. Maybe, if the person showed to be scorpio stellium, then I would be on my watch etc. But well, I would actually be vary with some aspects (not signs maybe), but I don't know nor interact with enough people to know how great this or bad that aspect, sign etc can be. Ah I don't know, this is an interesting question! I will come back with some more thoughts later haha. There is one "sign" I'm vary about energywise, and thats Libra. I have a love hate thing for them. Or, I just like their polite manners ad diplomasy, and thats just bc I have virgo asc . Also I really wanna see neptune-sun and neptune-venus aspects in my friends and family and love interest. Neptune-sun people hasgreat compassion amd empathy towards people (and animals) often, and sice I value EQ so highly, its a most for me. And venus-neptune, is so sacrificing and unconditional love, that I need to in a partner aleastm since I have that aspect myself, and I get so bitter and resentful when I give an give and do not get apreciation the way I wan't etc. also. So, thats my 2 censt for now.
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kirki Knowflake Posts: 266 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted March 07, 2018 02:53 PM
For some reason ,people with moon in gemini make me very nervous and tensed.I cant have a conversation with them for long,simply i cant...and its kind of weird cause i have mercury and venus in gemini,dc in gemini and 3 planets in 3rd house.IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 5138 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 07, 2018 04:49 PM
Thank you guys for the responses. Food for thought I wonder though if astrology only served to "label" the disliked quality through planetary placements? In other words,perhaps even without astrology I would have avoided those I didn't like but not be able to articulate why? So astrology affords me that ability to say "So much Cap in you. You must be slow to warm up to anything" or "So much Scorpio. I am not likely to get far through probing" etc. Astrology may not have created the perception. Maybe it was already there. In childhood before knowing of astrology, I had a distant relationship with my Dad. And later on had a fallout with a supposed best friend who turned cold on me. Both my Dad and past friend have Moon in Cap.Coincidence? I dated a Libra Sun with Cap Moon who just walked out on us. No explanations ...nothing. And my ex boss whom I had an iffy relationship with was also Cap Moon. With all these people I am disheartened by the coldness that I felt when I got too close. Its created an impression in my mind that once I sense the energy,I immediately avoid it. That could be seen as prejudice. True IP: Logged |
Radium Knowflake Posts: 376 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted March 07, 2018 05:01 PM
I really hate it when people don't like or have bad energy with Pisces.We are some very loving people with a great imagination and being the most psychic sign of the zodiac we can feel it when someone has hostility towards us, even if you don't say anything. Just a sensitive sign, so it really hurts us more when there's bad blood against us. We hate drama. Other signs can probably handle it better, but not a Pisces. The hate we get is usually self-induced and it's not due to a something we did but something we didn't. IP: Logged |
jjj Knowflake Posts: 488 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted March 07, 2018 05:06 PM
Personally I am not fan of anything Libra in a man s chart, I have bad experiences with them (Libra sun, moon, mars).Cap moon I like (not so much Cap venus though). But Im Cap sun haha. IP: Logged |
SimplyLuna Knowflake Posts: 155 From: California Registered: Jul 2017
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posted March 07, 2018 06:03 PM
I think it's like that with anyone. We were made to survive and we learn this through experiences. It's a way of avoiding circumstances we went through to ever happen again -- To break that pattern. Letting someone in is very personal... so I can see where it's coming from -- that trustI would be lying if I don't feel taken back with certain signs. I do try to keep a reminder to myself to be de-attached with the charts and see how it goes. 5 Dates rule for me. (Making friends too) My ex, who had cheated, had similar placements as my current bf -- I was also a bit afraid but so far the relationship has been doing well and this guy's sun is afflicted. IP: Logged |
ReachingForTheStars Knowflake Posts: 490 From: second star to the right, and straight on till morning Registered: Dec 2013
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posted March 07, 2018 06:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: I wonder though if astrology only served to "label" the disliked quality through planetary placements?In other words,perhaps even without astrology I would have avoided those I didn't like but not be able to articulate why? So astrology affords me that ability to say "So much Cap in you. You must be slow to warm up to anything" or "So much Scorpio. I am not likely to get far through probing" etc. Astrology may not have created the perception. Maybe it was already there. In childhood before knowing of astrology, I had a distant relationship with my Dad. And later on had a fallout with a supposed best friend who turned cold on me. Both my Dad and past friend have Moon in Cap.Coincidence? I dated a Libra Sun with Cap Moon who just walked out on us. No explanations ...nothing. And my ex boss whom I had an iffy relationship with was also Cap Moon. With all these people I am disheartened by the coldness that I felt when I got too close. Its created an impression in my mind that once I sense the energy,I immediately avoid it. That could be seen as prejudice. True
Yes, exactly! This has been my experience with Leo and Libra moons. It was after learning about astrology that I went back to pull up the charts of people whose vibes had that familiar something that I found off-putting enough to want to avoid. More often than not they’d have a Leo or Libra moon... later I discovered this extended to Aries and Aquarius moons, and cancer ASC but to a lesser degree. There’s just something about the way they are that makes me uncomfortable with who I am. The Libra moon females I know are so soft and dainty; I feel like a monster next to them. It isn’t something I immediately admitted to myself either. When I was younger I’d associate their feminine ways as weak or I thought about them as crybabies. For me, they seriously had an “eww” factor to them. I’ve always associated the placement with the stereotypical prissy girl. Now, when I encounter one, I immediately wonder: “Libra moon?” “Encountering one” means getting the feeling that I am the most unrefined person on the planet! Lol. It was never about them actually being “eww” or anything bad - it was me and perception! The Leo moons I know are much more comfortable with attention than I am and they seek it out. I used to think they were so vain, but that was just my biased perception. I used to think aqua moons were so stubborn and short-sighted. Then, I realized they just wanted things to make sense in an unchallengeable way. They were both way more uncomfortable with ambiguity than I was. Eventually, I came to the realization that I wasn’t that great at handling hard aspects to my Venus (Taurus) trine Moon (Capricorn). It was a valuable lesson for me that changed the way I perceived these behaviors. (Plus, I usually have Saturn, Mars, or Pluto conjunct the Libra Moon. I’m just too harsh and hyper aware of it when a moon is nearby.)
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Nine Moderator Posts: 3303 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted March 07, 2018 08:38 PM
Yes.Aquarius. Suns, moons, and Venus. This is one of the signs I've experienced to be naturally mean spirited....even without provocation. They are good at holding onto their relationships, yet I don't know too many people who are happy to share space with them. It's crazy. While I won't announce I can't stand them, I will generally avoid this sign. I will smile and giggle, but keep you at arms length. Aquarius and Pisces need equal amounts of space. While Pisces is tactful about their needs, Aquarius is quite obnoxious. When you throw ice back at them they have the nerve to be "hurt." They can feel it coming in but not going out. How ironic. I have moon in Sagittarius, which I judge to be approachable, friendly, and enthusiastic. Additionally, I have a conjunction to Neptune, and a trine to Jupiter. I am everything those aspects are meant to be. ....I also have moon square Saturn, exact. There is a part of my that is frigid! Cold, impenetrable, rejecting is not the first things you will notice about me. Moon in Sagittarius, I like being over the top, a little silly, opinionated, open. However, if you stir my emotions in a way I don't like I'll become quite cold with you. Not vindictive, just cold. Rude, uncaring, biting, cold. Many Aquas & Capricorns will tell you how cold I am. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 2734 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted March 07, 2018 09:34 PM
I think we all have prejudice against certain signs or placements—mostly those that clash with our own. For me personally, I can’t stand Neptunian energy. Mercury/Venus/Mars in Pisces feels delusional to me. I have the exception of appreciating Sun or Moon in Pisces because they connect with my Moon and MC. But the rest of the other placements really make me feel uncomfortable. Mercury in Pisces—heavy delusions, hard to understand/communicate with, may have a tendency to lie, but very artistic (this is the only trait I like). Venus in Pisces are too demanding in love and have unrealistic expectations. Mars in Pisces are spineless. At least, these are my experiences in IRL with these placements. Probably not everyone is like this. I also hate Neptune transits to my personal planets. They make me feel lazy and useless. I have dominant Virgo in my chart. I would blame this for the discomfort I feel around certain Pisces placements. I also have a certain dislike for Aries moon, based on my experiences with them (my dad & my sister). One of their worst expressions is being insensitive or inconsiderate of others. Very warm people though. I think to build prejudice towards a placement, your planets need to receive a horrible aspect from them. I also think it could be the natural mismatch in the energy of the planets and signs even if you don’t get aspects from them (ie opposite or square signs/planets). Another too may be energies that you’re not familiar with because you don’t have them in your own chart. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek Knowflake Posts: 495 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 07, 2018 10:26 PM
"Astrology reflects life. Life is negative and positive. This teaching is extremely unreflective of the real world, in which we live in."The opinion is very reflective of a spiritual person. Maybe not so much a worldy person. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek Knowflake Posts: 495 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 07, 2018 10:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: True.Is it also possible that if one has terrible experiences with people who have certain positions I.e Moon in Aqua for instance. That one learns to "zone in" on that placement and avoid relations with them? They may have awful experiences with other placements. But they tend to forget about those experiences and have a particular dislike for only Moon in Aqua. As if all are horrible people that should be held at arms length lol. On the other hand if the same person experienced good relations with say Moon in Scorpio folks. Then they would prioritize people who have that position. I recall my 1st day at work and my colleague asked my zodiac sign. And I said "Libra" (My Draco Sun instead of natal) and she cringed saying "they are the worst." So even with novices, there is some prejudice. And sometimes I resist looking up the charts of people I don't like so that I don't cement preconceived notions of any energy. At other times,I can't resist. In this case I do regret looking because I don't think I can move further from this point because if it turns to isht, a part of me will say " you walked right into that"
If I deny self (soul), I can access my human spirit I was conceived with. They work like master slaves. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 5138 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 07, 2018 10:56 PM
Perhaps it is also my souls intent to be vulnerable, open and emotionally expressive? All of this done with sincerity ofcourse.Now if experiences with certain people hinder that and others extend that. What would the soul be doing with the former instead of the latter. Maybe my "prejudice" are borne from the souls internal sensory perception that says " don't go there. That won't be fun"? Rarely do Cap moons and I get close now. I feel like they think my emotional nature "ridiculous" My Dad and I talk. But its mostly niceties and platitudes. Not authentic or deep stuff. And I can tell he would like "more". But I am weary of him as he changes and really becomes very reserved and closed off. I don't experience this with Pisces,Cancer Moon nor with Scorpio. Lots of anger with Scorpio but its mostly emotional passion. Virgo is the most likeable earth Sun/Moon or Venus position ime. Its just easy how we get on. However there is discomfort if Moon/Venus or Mars is in Cap. It makes relations less smooth. I don't think Aqua moon is all that bad. I do like the clever way he communicates. But my reservations stem from so much Saturn influenced energy on his personal planets. I can already tell that he can switch off. He does have some sensitivity to read the subliminal but can be quite harsh with his opinions. My Moon seems sensitive to energy that seems to have black/white answers for everything. IP: Logged |