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SecretGeek
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posted March 19, 2018 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have North Node in Pisces. I have seen the universe/God save me.....at the last moment!

TY for sharing. I think the ones God eventually uses to help others, screw up the most. It can be a way to align wills up. I admire someone that doesn't have to endure pain to align their will up. I almost lost my life several times.

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posted March 19, 2018 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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TY for sharing. I think the ones God eventually uses to help others, screw up the most. It can be a way to align wills up. I admire someone that doesn't have to endure pain to align their will up. I almost lost my life several times.

I must be an old soul, if I do something wrong, the universe usually punches me in the stomache!

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posted March 19, 2018 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
I must be an old soul, if I do something wrong, the universe usually punches me in the stomache!

That may be a good thing in the grand scheme of things. Does it change your behavior?

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posted March 19, 2018 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could argue we are born with faith too, religion is organized but faith can be an instinct, during times of stress/crisis so many of us choose to have faith that things will work out, even in the absence of a belief in God.

I feel you have to have faith in life whether you belief there is a god or not!

Great post SecretGeek, I like how you view fear and faith as identical like a spectrum or a different side of the same coin.

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posted March 19, 2018 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Hmm I'd personally term that as "trust" rather than "faith".

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posted March 19, 2018 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
I must be an old soul, if I do something wrong, the universe usually punches me in the stomache!

What are your saturn and karma aspects and placements? Do you have karma or saturn in aries or aspecting mars by any chance?

Curious...

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posted March 19, 2018 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ Hmm I'd personally term that "trust" rather than "faith".

Fair enough.

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posted March 19, 2018 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You could argue we are born with faith too, religion is organized but faith can be an instinct, during times of stress/crisis so many of us choose to have faith that things will work out, even in the absence of a belief in God.

I feel you have to have faith in life whether you belief there is a god or not!

Great post SecretGeek, I like how you view fear and faith as identical like a spectrum or a different side of the same coin.


TY. I tried to address having faith in something outside of self (soul) to remove fear. It could be a support group, family, friends, etc. I referred to it as a Higher Power.

If you were on a stranded island and had extreme fear with no cell phone, how could you remove the extreme fear?

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posted March 19, 2018 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ If it was me, I'd just face it, feel it, watch it, and by and by it'd disappear, it will disappear, I know that for certain.

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posted March 19, 2018 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ If it was me, I'd just face it, feel it, watch it, and by and by it'd disappear, it will disappear, I know that for certain.

I would remove the fear. Do you like the feeling of fear?

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posted March 20, 2018 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is definitely something I would do too but hope and faith would also play a role in this theoretical scenario which is only realistic if my survival skills are strong to start with.

Yes I would let myself feel the pain, that is the first step but after I would create meaning of what is happening and find a new purpose. I would develop a deeper connection with nature and hopefully become friends with some animals. I would let my memories keep me company and have faith this is happening for a reason and radically accept my situation. I would have faith that I might come across eventually another human, I would let myself think that is possible.

Honestly though I don't have survival skills to make it alone in a stranded island. I am not naked and afraid material LOL.

Who knows I might surprise myself.

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posted March 20, 2018 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
I would remove the fear. Do you like the feeling of fear?

I hate it, I hope to overcome all my fears so I don't feel fear.Getting rid of fear is about confronting your fears and putting yourself in the situation you fear so it no longer has that power over you.

Honestly, I think that is the only way to really get rid of fear, living through it yet there are a lot of things I don't want to live through but that is were faith comes in maybe, that belief you can overcome anything and heal the worst kind of trauma and hence the power of faith in eliminating fear.

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posted March 20, 2018 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
That is definitely something I would do too but hope and faith would also play a role in this theoretical scenario which is only realistic if my survival skills are strong to start with.

Yes I would let myself feel the pain, that is the first step but after I would create meaning of what is happening and find a new purpose. I would develop a deeper connection with nature and hopefully become friends with some animals. I would let my memories keep me company and have faith this is happening for a reason and radically accept my situation. I would have faith that I might come across eventually another human, I would let myself think that is possible.

Honestly though I don't have survival skills to make it alone in a stranded island. I am not naked and afraid material LOL.

Who knows I might surprise myself.



LOL


"...have faith this is happening for a reason..."

Faith in self?

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posted March 20, 2018 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I hate it, I hope to overcome all my fears so I don't feel fear.Getting rid of fear is about confronting your fears and putting yourself in the situation you fear so it no longer has that power over you.

Honestly, I think that is the only way to really get rid of fear, living through it yet there are a lot of things I don't want to live through but that is were faith comes in maybe, that belief you can overcome anything and heal the worst kind of trauma and hence the power of faith in eliminating fear.



That didn't work for me but I was pretty hard core. LOL

I had to realize I was powerless and had to submit my will to preserve my life. In short, I had to be broken. Then everything fell in place over time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcdsiM69Gd0

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posted March 20, 2018 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
What are your saturn and karma aspects and placements? Do you have karma or saturn in aries or aspecting mars by any chance?

Curious...


Overall, I have a load of Saturn aspects, placements, and my Saturn squares Mars. So yeah, I get an instant lesson!

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posted March 20, 2018 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bill Mahar has them conjunct.

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posted March 24, 2018 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SecretGeek ... I very much enjoy your musical selections.

Also listened to the Trey Smith video.

You made this comment in a different thread--

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In regards to Trey's video, consider DNA. I like this one very much:

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Which came first, proteins or DNA (Revelation 4:11)? For evolutionists, the chicken or egg dilemma goes even deeper. Chickens consist of proteins. The code for each protein is contained in the DNA/RNA system. However, proteins are required in order to manufacture DNA. So which came first: proteins or DNA? The ONLY explanation is that they were created together.
http://www.eternal-productions.org/101science.html

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But for the Grace of God (Keith Urban)

Sending acknowledgment and Love to Pixie Jane, too.

In certain places at LL, I have described my own experiences with God.

God is not DNA .. or anything biological or mineral.

GOD is 'The Creator' of those things that Exist.
DNA and Biology .. are the 'things creatED'.
The visible manifestation FROM a CreatOR.

In one of the least-spiritual times in my life, I was encountered.. during a dream that turned Lucid Experience in 1987. I had a Life transforming Direct experience in the Spiritual realms. Some call it a Conversion Experience.

When I woke up, I was NEVER the same again. Never.

Like testimonies of people who are revived after having a NDE-- Life changed.

And, in the same way when you have sexual intercourse-- you cannot 'un-Know' what you experienced.

So plain actually.

That's what 'I heard' in the Trey Smith vids.

I 'perceived' his Love for God, who is The Creator, of 'us'.

It's a Love BEYOND all the created-Wonderful 'things' ... like Nature, like our biology. It all came from "Something"... and That Something, is in the weave and fabric of ALL things Tangible-- visibly and in-visibly.

EVERYTHING is Held-Together .. because GOD Exists.

God made us 'in his Image' .. in his Imagination, and SPOKE us into Being.

We are His Thoughtforms-- The work of his Hands and Handiwork, like the Cosmos.

We are Waking UP to the Core-Origin of the fact we are in an energetic matrix, a Thought-Field, Originally Intended and formed for the Purpose of Love.

Love Impregnates.
Love Grows.

Love, A Transforming Agent


We have MESSED UP ROYALLY here on this planet.
It's 'gonna take a lotta Love' and Realizations, to try to restore her.

I just hope it's not too late.

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posted March 24, 2018 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
◄ Genesis 1:27 ► http://biblehub.com/genesis/1-27.htm

We are created in God's image (imagination). We don't look like God. We have an imagination like God. Willy Wonka explains it, why we are different: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ-uV72pQKI

Josh sings it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOfagBBxrfs

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posted March 29, 2018 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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