posted March 11, 2018 10:10 PM            

Here is Richard Dawkins natal chart. Pretty impressive or is it not?

In my experience, faith and fear are almost identical. Both are the belief that something will happen in the future. Fear is the belief that something negative will happen in the future and Faith is the belief that something positive will happen in the future.

posted March 11, 2018 11:32 PM            

I find extremely fearful situations rather thrilling, like it's present side by side, so I might jump into it, but only if it's
not a stupid thing to do.

I have Mercury and Venus in Pisces just like him, also have Neptune in Capricorn in 3rd but his Neptune conjuncts IC and mine doesn't so it's not exactly the same thing.

posted March 11, 2018 11:51 PM            

You would have faith in finding a cure though, I think. So a potential cure would be like your higher power and temporarily reduce (or remove) your fear?

posted March 12, 2018 02:54 AM            

I think it goes back to early childhood. My (extended) family was big into promoting independence (but then hated it when we kids got too independent of them and thus did our own thing, go figure), and where it really set in was at 5. I tried to wake the hungover 'rents up to feed me and got knocked across the room. The next time I woke up and got too hungry I figured out a way to feed myself that took a little risk and ingenuity but paid off, and after it did a confidence went through me that made me realize that though the adult world was fickle and unpredictable (and sometimes dangerous), I could still take care of myself.

I believe this is why prayers don't work for me (even in an experiment I did when some of the prayers SHOULD'VE, but apparently it created a mystical force against it) but spells (doing it for myself rather than appealing to a higher power) do, at least back in my neopagan days when I was into that. Even when I adopted a pagan view for a few years the divine message was to grow up and learn to stand on my own feet rather than seek to be an eternal child to a god. To petition a god for favors tapped something in me that goes back to asking my parents to feed me only to get knocked across the room while doing spells tapped the part of my mind that made my own breakfast.

Though what's interesting to me is that when I was a 15-year-old runaway living on the streets that joined a krew, there was a 13-year-old boy that was like a bratty brother that I loved (me being like his big sister, nothing romantic or sexual about it). I know very little about what his life had been like at home, but know there was sexual abuse involved, and that he'd been turning tricks off and on since he was 10. He witnessed violence and police corruption, and learned not to trust clergymen. And yet he actually believed that if he slept by a church that God wouldn't let anything happen to him. Of course it would have to be somewhere where we could hide, and because I was protective of him I'd sometimes stay, like in one concrete stairwell that was cold to sit upon and almost impossible for me to sleep (though he did so well enough), and I marveled that there were sheltered, naive little boys who never knew trauma that were scared of monsters under their bed, and yet here a boy who had been through hell could sleep with faith. Though if there was a God then I'd say God was working through me since I was the one watching over him much of the time...just as I'd watch male and female prostitutes service johns from the same hiding place, sitting beside him as he slept. (I still wonder whatever happened to him, but it's probably best that I don't know.)

As for a more specific answer...

At 16 I found myself the prisoner of a psychopath. I could've given up, and yet that's just not my style. I didn't pray...and the idea of a God that was watching waiting for me to beg would've NOT reassured me (and found the concept one woman put forth of God allowing her to be raped and stabbed several times but not allow her to die to be a terrifying concept)...but I did repeat Emily Dickinson's A Tempest over and over as a promise that if I could just get away then I could move on. It turned out more complicated, of course, and had PTSD over it for several years (though I feel I should point out that many at the PTSD support group I used to go to had extra problems because they had faith but were victims anyway, and their family & friends who also believed they were protected by faith then shunned them because obviously the victims did something wrong, or at best it was a reminder their faith was false which they couldn't deal with), but I did get away, and repeating that poem could be seen as being like a prayer, though I was praying to myself to not forget that this, too, shall pass (at least as long as I didn't give up). I suppose you could say I had faith in myself rather than the cosmos or any higher power.

And incidents like that make me appreciate what I have now. I'd react to trauma, be it violence or cancer, the same way, and be glad for what I've already had. This isn't to be mistaken for serenity, though perhaps ironically my attitude is very similar to the Serenity Prayer (just without asking God to help me). Since I haven't read Emily Dickinson in a long time I'd probably hum songs like I May Fall (in the case of violence) or Let's Just Live (in the case of something like terminal cancer). In the case of something like terminal cancer, I'm also reminded of this answer to the question of are we going to do?".

And this is also worth noting, perhaps the best answer that goes on for 3 minutes (with a little on how it applies to a TV show, easily overlooked):
http://youtu.be/KiJ7Kscpyks?t=4m17s

posted March 12, 2018 03:24 AM            

Here is Bill Mahar's chart. Anyone resonate with Bill's chart?

posted March 13, 2018 03:36 AM            

By "relate more" I don't mean that we're alike. I wouldn't let him insult some people I know (not to be confused with saying something they find offensive), and I'm sure he would not have made a Bible study possible for some homeless people as I did. But I still appreciate what he's trying to do as a comedic social commentator.

posted March 13, 2018 09:17 AM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
I would also (have fear) up to a point. Then faith would take over. I don't think it is possible to have fear and faith at exactly the same time, such that they are mutually exclusive.

You would have faith in finding a cure though, I think. So a potential cure would be like your higher power and temporarily reduce (or remove) your fear?

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To be completely honest, I am rather aware of fear of death these days constantly, like the fear of death is present every moment, not easy to handle at all to be honest, like you are dying every moment. I suspect I was left with this feeling after one particular experience in meditation(I meditate regularly). And I don't see the point of putting faith in higher power coz hey, death is certain! might happen now, might happen after 100 years(nah that's too much, I'd be 124 then, don't really see the point of living till 124, like what'd I do with all the spare time in my hands? will I even have hands/hand at that age,LOL).

So would there be some hope in me of finding care?or shall I call it 'faith', yes definitely there'd be. But I'd rely upon my own efforts really, and only then leave things upto higher power, I don't think I'd be left with any faith at that point though, but if something happens on it's own, yes I'd feel very grateful.

posted March 13, 2018 03:32 PM            

The following is only my opinion:

When I write self, I refer to the soul, including mind, will, and emotion. The human spirit seems to be attached to the soul at conception and includes conscience, communion, and wisdom (all three are like pipes of communication). So if I deny self, I can access my human spirit I was temporarily assigned. My human spirit is not in self. It is outside of self. So it can be an illusion that our life is ours. We could choose to live forever (in the flesh) if our human spirit was ours.

So the power lies in "not self" (the compliment of self) because of "not self" being infinite and powerful. Self is finite and powerless. If I were powerful, I could create life. I can procreate life, but not create life.

posted March 13, 2018 10:50 PM            

There are several references but here is one:

◄ Matthew 16:24 ►
"...must deny themselves..." http://biblehub.com/matthew/16-24.htm

The knowledge was likely around way before Bhudda's time. It can be a method to access the facilities in the human spirit, such as conscience. For example, it is possible for me to isolate my conscience.

The timing may not be right for you. When the timing was right for me, I was eventually spiritually awakened. I was a little older than you though. I was not broken at your age yet and some of us never get broken.

posted March 13, 2018 11:11 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Hmm, what do you mean by conscience ?

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posted March 19, 2018 01:02 PM            

Add the ruler of the Draconic Sag Asc is -Jup in Scorpio. And this could explain his passionate responses in interviews.

Maher has realistic Cap as his Draco Asc. And clearly he has some Taurus themes to work through in life because in addition to natal Moon, Taurus is also his Draconic Sun/Merc- making him very grounded and practical in outlook.

Draconic Jup/Plu is in Sag in his chart conjunct. He undertakes exhaustive studying and can also be very passionate. As his Draco Moon is in Arise suggests that he is not scared of confrontations.