posted June 07, 2018 01:03 PM            

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Originally posted by areesquivel:
Mom is a Sag Moon with Sun in Pisces, Aries ASC and she's a boss lady in every single way, she speaks her mind and she's one of the most intelligent woman I know.

My mom is on the spiritual side, she's been cultivating that over the years, her mom was a teacher so Sag Moon is a good description on her mom too.

She has a Sun/Neptune exact trine so I can't lie to her and she tells me things I don't see, super intuitive.

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Very Cool, thanks for sharing.

posted June 07, 2018 02:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
You and I agree on plenty

As a Scorpio Venus, I can concur that passion is kept at bay and inhibited. There is an innate fear of betrayal here. So the passion comes off as defensiveness

I was involved with a Scorpio Moon & felt like I was on trial for saying a random "hi" to people that I didn't tell him about.

He would say isht like "Your boyfriend is on the phone" to my ex colleague calling or ask "what did you two get up to?" suggestively when my best friend would visit.

I thought as a Scorpio Ven I was jealous. I ain't got nothing on Scorpio Moon. Nothing!!!

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hahah yes venus in scorpio is not that jealous but is interesting what you said about venus in scorpio struggling with defensiveness.

posted June 07, 2018 08:09 PM            

Wish I was born under Sag moon.

posted June 08, 2018 05:25 AM            

Too true. Too true.

I have spent the better part of my life on the defensive. Fearing being "overpowered"
But the overwhelming need to have that "all consuming" love gets more urgent the more it is denied.

This is why Venus in Scorpio often find themselves in very dangerous and often highly tumultuous relationships later on in life(if this need goes unquenched).

The momentum is so great that one(Ven Sc) often confuses drama/jealousy and stand offs for the type of love they have been looking for since forever.

A very damaged Cancer Venus I was involved with could make me feel so loved. So understood. But the manipulation tactics, the underhanded emotional blackmail made the long term prospects of our relationship difficult.

I am not sure I will experience that intensity again nor he for that matter-because it was so involving.

posted June 08, 2018 05:26 AM            

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Originally posted by SunAscendant:
A Sun in Virgo, Moon in Sag man I know is a feminist and very annoying about it. He's self-righteous as f*ck too.

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posted June 08, 2018 12:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes! These are the Sag Moons I know all too well. Very preachy & self righteous!

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Yes I can see that about them but IDK I like the honesty, courage to speak their mind and passion they have.

posted June 08, 2018 01:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
@hypatia238

Too true. Too true.

I have spent the better part of my life on the defensive. Fearing being "overpowered"
But the overwhelming need to have that "all consuming" love gets more urgent the more it is denied.

This is why Venus in Scorpio often find themselves in very dangerous and often highly tumultuous relationships later on in life(if this need goes unquenched).

The momentum is so great that one(Ven Sc) often confuses drama/jealousy and stand offs for the type of love they have been looking for since forever.

A very damaged Cancer Venus I was involved with could make me feel so loved. So understood. But the manipulation tactics, the underhanded emotional blackmail made the long term prospects of our relationship difficult.

I am not sure I will experience that intensity again nor he for that matter-because it was so involving.

I don't know if I was in love or in heat

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I feel this placements has many flings/casual sex or friends with benefits arrangements throughout their life. When you ask them about love there is usually one person they feel they truly felt in love with all the way that they put in a different category to everyone else. Usually they self sabotage that relationship themselves bc of their strong desire nature or other reasons, e.g. inability to remain faithful. They are very attracted to the idea of open relationships because of this. I feel they are unlucky in love but I feel that they bring that to themselves, there may be a compulsion to self-sabotage good things maybe coming from a place of feeling they don't deserve good things subconsciously since Venus rules self-worth and does not feel comfortable in Scorpio. I feel this placement is prone to self loathing at least subconsciously.

Also since Scorpio rules death I feel part of the reason they self-sabotage and are on the defense is bc they know everything comes to an end more than other Venus placements giving them a dark outlook on love to start with. They associate love with trauma to some extent, with death, loss, betrayal, longing/pain, forbidden love etc. Love is associated with crisis or barriers and feels unpredictable, they are always waiting for the other shoe to drop.

posted June 09, 2018 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I feel this placements has many flings/casual sex or friends with benefits arrangements throughout their life. When you ask them about love there is usually one person they feel they truly felt in love with all the way that they put in a different category to everyone else. Usually they self sabotage that relationship themselves bc of their strong desire nature or other reasons, e.g. inability to remain faithful. They are very attracted to the idea of open relationships because of this. I feel they are unlucky in love but I feel that they bring that to themselves, there may be a compulsion to self-sabotage good things maybe coming from a place of feeling they don't deserve good things subconsciously since Venus rules self-worth and does not feel comfortable in Scorpio. I feel this placement is prone to self loathing at least subconsciously.

Also since Scorpio rules death I feel part of the reason they self-sabotage and are on the defense is bc they know everything comes to an end more than other Venus placements giving them a dark outlook on love to start with. They associate love with trauma to some extent, with death, loss, betrayal, longing/pain, forbidden love etc. Love is associated with crisis or barriers and feels unpredictable, they are always waiting for the other shoe to drop.

In a sense love activates their fight or flight mechanism!!!!!! Hence the hot and cold, back and forth issues famous with this placement. Their body is saying "danger! this is not safe, you can get hurt, better run and hide, you need to protect yourself." The interesting thing is that when the Venus in Scorpio individual does not run and actually sticks around I think the intensity of this placement ends up activating the fight or flight mechanism of the other person instead. Their lover ends up playing out the shadow side of this placement.

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Preach!

Maybe look at Draconic. You could have Venus in Scorpio or natal Pluto in aspect to dr Mercury. You phrased that so well.

My ex also had Ven in Scor but conj Ura. He is also Moon in Cap with Saturn square Sun and Moon.

I feel for him. I think he is emotionally a very implosive person. And when he left me abruptly I asked him why he did that. To which he replied "I got scared. It wasn't you. I felt loved. I just got scared."

How can someone sabotage the one thing that made him feel safe and loved? My Cancer Moon battled to understand it. Then I remembered when I did the same thing (only waaay younger in my teens).

Another Venus in Scor showed me my own reservations that I dealt with (luckily).

Now I am not so scared of being "left" more than I am of not ever loving anyone. So I try to be as understanding as possible. But I also know that one can't love someone whom is not ready to receive it(nevermind reciprocate).

posted June 10, 2018 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Preach!

Maybe look at Draconic. You could have Venus in Scorpio or natal Pluto in aspect to dr Mercury. You phrased that so well.

My ex also had Ven in Scor but conj Ura. He is also Moon in Cap with Saturn square Sun and Moon.

I feel for him. I think he is emotionally a very implosive person. And when he left me abruptly I asked him why he did that. To which he replied "I got scared. It wasn't you. I felt loved. I just got scared."

How can someone sabotage the one thing that made him feel safe and loved? My Cancer Moon battled to understand it. Then I remembered when I did the same thing (only waaay younger in my teens).

Another Venus in Scor showed me my own reservations that I dealt with (luckily).

Now I am not so scared of being "left" more than I am of not ever loving anyone. So I try to be as understanding as possible. But I also know that one can't love someone whom is not ready to receive it(nevermind reciprocate).

And I find many Venus in Scorpio's sexy facade as a faulty disguise of this: an inability to let love in.

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My Draco Mercury trines under 1d my natal Pluto but I dont know if that counts. I do have mercury parallel pluto, and mercury novile pluto though.

"I got scared. It wasn't you. I felt loved. I just got scared." How beautiful he was able to be authentic and honest with you and express this to you.

The guy I was seeing he had moon in aries quintile saturn, moon quintile mars and moon square his Uranus in addition to having sun conjunct venus in scorpio; talk about the placements/aspects of someone who is guarded, on the defensive and who finds it easy to cut people off, survival mode. What you said about having an inability to let love in that truly describes him. He couldn't even receive it nevermind reciprocate it as you are right that is the first step, to allow yourself to receive it.

I remember him mentioning he was in foster care as a child, I feel he has an avoidant attachment style. He described what he was feeling with a word that indicated an internal struggle/conflict involving his feelings for me. He is very bad at expressing himself but I gather part of him wanted to explore this and give into it but part of him wanted to protect himself as I am married, the risk was not worth it for him from the start specially with all those placements strongly reinforcing strong boundaries and a need to stay guarded and in control, he has that instinct very strongly ingrained. Further Tr saturn is doing so much in his chart right now, I feel the timing was far from ideal too for this to flourish. Add that a few months ago his fiancee left him etc..I wanted him to just let himself be loved unconditionally, but my moon in pisces square neptune ruler of 5th house is been too unrealistic and romantic perhaps LOL. I wanted to model an open heart and give him all the love he never received. I feel so much empathy for him.

I do resonate with this placement for whatever reason, like I weirdly understand it.
I have Psyche in SCORPIO, psyche means soul so I feel I have the soul of a scorpio. Come to think of it, I have Venus in Leo square Psyche in scorpio exact! Bingo, is like my venus has a venus in scorpio influence.

My wedding song screams Venus in Scorpio actually. Bjork sings it who is a scorpio with moon in scorpio and venus in capricorn, the song is called:

"All is Full of Love."

You'll be given love
You'll be taken care of
You'll be given love
You have to trust it

Maybe not from the sources
You have poured yours
Maybe not from the directions
You are staring at

Twist your head around
It's all around you
All is full of love
All around you

All is full of love
You just ain't receiving
All is full of love
Your phone is off the hook
All is full of love
Your doors are all shut
All is full of love!

All is full of love, all is full of love
All is full of love, all is full of love

posted June 10, 2018 03:48 PM            

The video features two humanoid robots having a moment.She is kissing herself. Sorta giving love back to herself and breathing life into an otherwise robotic form.

I got it the moment I saw it and my cousin thought me weird by liking the song and understanding the theme. She found the video disturbing

Have you heard the live version? So beautiful. I think she performed it in Finland (not sure).

Those placements you mentioned do count BTW. The Mercury parallel Pluto is a gift. It gives you an ability to verbalize the secretive Pluto energy in a very loving way.

People who fear trust or have trust issues usually also have colorful Uranus in the mix.

Uranus is exalted in Scorpio- so things here definitely fall apart,are lost or get very complex. The two connect strongly on a cosmic level.

Does he have Uranus on Moon? Or perhaps Uranus on Ic? Or maybe even Moon/Mars square?

posted June 10, 2018 04:45 PM            

My ex has Sun conjunct Uranus in scorpio but he received all the love I gave and gave it hard back but I messed up and he stopped feeling safe with me I feel. He had nice moon aspects.

This last lover has DC in Aquarius with Moon square Uranus in Capricorn and Sun conjunct Venus in Scorpio.

My first lover has sun in aquarius square Pluto. Moon in Aries rules his DC and trines his Saturn and Uranus.

My first boyfriend has sun in aquarius, moon in Scorpio, Venus in Capricorn.

posted June 11, 2018 06:40 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well my partner has Mars conjunct Uranus on the DC in Scorpio sesquisquare his Moon.

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Mars/Uranus is quite an erratic natal placement. When in the 7th house, it suggests someone who doesn't like people or can be easily irritable when around people for a long time.

My sister has Mars/Uranus opp and Saturn opp Mars. She is easily irritated and her approach to people can sway between being vivacious to being outright rude. Even to her closest friends(which I find odd)

Mars/Uranus can insist on complete independence and doing things on their own terms. Quite tricky to be in a relationship with-unless you agree with them all the time.

There is a strong impulse towards acting on strong feelings-mostly anger or feelings of passion. So break-ups to make-ups characterize the nature of relationships (when in 7th)

posted June 11, 2018 11:26 AM            

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Mars/Uranus is quite an erratic natal placement. When in the 7th house, it suggests someone who doesn't like people or can be easily irritable when around people for a long time.

My sister has Mars/Uranus opp and Saturn opp Mars. She is easily irritated and her approach to people can sway between being vivacious to being outright rude. Even to her closest friends(which I find odd)

Mars/Uranus can insist on complete independence and doing things on their own terms. Quite tricky to be in a relationship with-unless you agree with them all the time.

There is a strong impulse towards acting on strong feelings-mostly anger or feelings of passion. So break-ups to make-ups characterize the nature of relationships (when in 7th)

The "gentle" approach to partners is unlikely. Unless your partner has mitigating factors with Venus/Moon or Venus/Sun. As Mars/Uranus is brusque.

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"Mars/Uranus is quite an erratic natal placement. When in the 7th house, it suggests someone who doesn't like people or can be easily irritable when around people for a long time." Its right on top of his DC, its a very tight stellium.

^^hahahaha that is something I noticed early on in our relationship when we started dating, he gets irritated easily and is even sensitive to touch which is problematic bc I am very passionate. When I try to give him more of me and go there with him which is the only way I can fall in love with someone, I have to give it all, he reacts like its too much for him, he feels overwhelmed. So much for mars in scorpio, the uranus I feel alters its expression greatly.

"My sister has Mars/Uranus opp and Saturn opp Mars. She is easily irritated and her approach to people can sway between being vivacious to being outright rude. Even to her closest friends(which I find odd)"

^He has Sun in Libra which is in mutual reception to his Venus in Leo and he has moon in Cancer, He hates been rude, if anything I am the one that can be a little rude at times. But yes part of the reason he does not have a career, is because he has a very hard time working with others and dealing with interpersonal dynamics at work, he gets irritated, he starts to obsess and can't let it go, his anxiety goes up.

"Mars/Uranus can insist on complete independence and doing things on their own terms. Quite tricky to be in a relationship with-unless you agree with them all the time."

^^hahahahhaha no we don't agree all the time hahahaha but I have moon in pisces and sun in virgo so I tend to let him be and give in to a portion of things he wants ect but we use to have very epic fights, toxic, there was a phase in our relationship that was bad. We have come a long way, living with my parents for a few years helped a lot in changing our dynamics.

"There is a strong impulse towards acting on strong feelings-mostly anger or feelings of passion. So break-ups to make-ups characterize the nature of relationships (when in 7th)"

He never broke up with me, I broke up with him a lot and he hated it, his moon in cancer did not appreciate this.

"The "gentle" approach to partners is unlikely. Unless your partner has mitigating factors with Venus/Moon or Venus/Sun. As Mars/Uranus is brusque."

^^Well I can handle intensity and brusque but I also need sweetness and he has that as he is a libra with moon in cancer and venus in leo.

posted June 11, 2018 11:48 AM            

So that’s why I believe in vedic.

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Tropical Sun Libra/Moon Sagittarius/Ascendant Gemini