posted June 09, 2018 05:00 PM            

I guess I know the answer, but doubt I'm being objective.

There are two leading Aquas in my life, the first is so eager I'm suspicious. The second is playing it coy and I'm hooked and ready to surrender.

Nothing is happening. I've given him the opportunity to drive me home twice, and he's declined. He's the one bringing it up, "How are you going to get home, do you have a ride?...TWICE.

He won't answer me, he walks away from me. I would stop talking to him...but I feel guilty with face he puts out.

Talking to him used to be easy, these days I have to insist to get a response. The last couple days being around him left the impression he wants to be pursued, and fussed over. Is this an Aqua thing? I've seen this in Scorpios, and Cancers...but Aquarius?

posted June 09, 2018 05:58 PM            

It's not really being a player (which can't be ruled out), but think of it as two 8 year old kids. They want to play together, spend time together, have fun, talk - but since they're kids, they're just thinking in terms of friendship, but not romance. Kid's will even "flirt" (non-romantically) by giving compliments, saying and doing nice things, but there's no sexual or romantic subtext to it. Whereas when we're older, if someone is being very friendly, we'll tend to think of it as courting.

So when dealing with Aquas, what must be found out is if they're just being friendly, and only want to be friends (for some Aquarians, friendship can even matter more than romance)
or if they want something else. So with Aquarius, even though they tend to move fast, one would ideally take it slow and try to figure out where they stand.

A good way to do this is to meet them at their level, and show them you can. I.E, be friendly, too. Try and think of them in terms of friendship. They'll feel the pressure if you ask to go out with them, and behind your asking there's the subtext of "ok let's move this courting along and start dating."

Another example is if you say to them "You have beautiful eyes ;D" or something that seems flirty, if there's the subtext of wanting to be more than just friends, they'll likely feel it.

So, the Aquarian you mentioned, the one that didn't take the opportunity to drive you home, it could be that they feel that pressure, and they're trying not to lead you on (possibly).

Aqua can be tricky in this way, but learning to be okay with just being friends first often works best. Show them you're so secure that if they want you romantically = yay! And if they want to just be friends = also yay!

These are all just possibilities I'm throwing out there.

Another thing to keep in mind is that Aquarius is really indecisive. In some ways, deciding things for them, or rather, letting them know what you want, while also not making them feel obliged to give it to you, goes a long way.

Aquarius is in its fall in the sun, so this is exacerbated, and they likely have difficulties deciding what they really want, and will also tend to hide how they really feel. They'll put on an air that's contrary to everything inside them. Even can act "brave" and cocky when they're frightened.

posted June 09, 2018 09:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:

It's not really being a player (which can't be ruled out), but think of it as two 8 year old kids. They want to play together, spend time together, have fun, talk - but since they're kids, they're just thinking in terms of friendship, but not romance. Kid's will even "flirt" (non-romantically) by giving compliments, saying and doing nice things, but there's no sexual or romantic subtext to it. Whereas when we're older, if someone is being very friendly, we'll tend to think of it as courting.

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Thank you LalaFortunaea, this was an excellent analogy. I've had my share of enthusiastic friendliness where the other person was led to believe my interest was romantic. While from my end it was purely platonic...innocent and pure as children's love for each other. I know exactly what you mean.

I used to struggle with Aquarius terribly, so as a general rule I avoid Aquarius and Aqua heavy people. It was my experience that they play hurtful games. It became easy for me to spot and block...but this one is different. He mirrors my color combinations in clothing. Day 1: Aqua wore white, and I wore white. Day 2: Aqua wore white, I was in a rush so threw on black & gray. Day 3: I returned to white, Aqua wore black & gray.

Mirroring is something people who are attracted to you do, subconsciously. A Scorpio tried to mirror me once...consciously. Since Scorpio is on my watch list, so I recognized what was going on instantly and shut it down.

Nine: La la laaaah
Aqua: Nine, who's taking you home?
Nine: I made arrangements with Teofiq.

Two days later.

posted June 10, 2018 07:02 AM            

Start off as friends. Don't suggest anything romantic or something that points to that direction.

I find Aqua energy to work in reverse. The less interested you are and distant you seem, the more they want you.

posted June 10, 2018 12:10 PM            

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I was married to one for 28 years.And a close friend of mine was married to one also..
Through my personal experience. The nicer you are to them the more distant they become..And they are very disloyal.

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posted June 10, 2018 02:05 PM            

As for being mean to people they are close to, I can see it happening. A challenge for Aquarians has to do with freedom and unity. Some Aquarians fear intimacy like the plague, yet secretly crave it, so if they don't manage to sort themselves out and learn to get close and appreciate real closeness and attachment, and understand it's not a threat to their freedom, but an expansion of same, then they could become cranky, and even down right mean to someone who appears to threaten their individuality and uniqueness. (true love is surrender, after all)

posted June 10, 2018 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
My best friend is an Aqua Sun. He also has Aqua Venus and Aqua Mars with Capricorn Asc.

Start off as friends. Don't suggest anything romantic or something that points to that direction.

I find Aqua energy to work in reverse. The less interested you are and distant you seem, the more they want you.

The more available and open about your feelings you get. The less attracted they become.

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I did feel this was the case with a friend, male. Aqua asc, libra Venus sextile Uranus. Maybe not that much aqua energy? Dunno but however this is the case with most males. If you open up emotionally, they seem to feel the oppsoite of "connected". Maybe bc they don't like talking- wenting feelings?

For that they have girlfriends. If there is no sex in the end for them, why talk about emotions? Maybe I'm cynical, but thats the case with males over 28. They talk feelings with the girl they sleep with. That one person is usually sufficient for them.

This guy is communicative loves talking, to learn new stuff. Also he loves when you ask stuff like what his opinion is about things like death sentence, animal welfare etc. He loves talking about surface stuff! And learning new things, he will listen intentely about new research etc, everything that shows what a smart person you are. He is not that smart himself though imo, and will stand his ground on stuff like if one for ex tries to explain why vitamin d3 is important to take as a supplement, (he is against it).

As soon as I try to connect more emotionally and talk about friendship, feelings, how important its to me to do my best to keep my friends etc. He will get disinterested. He has a poker face, he will hum and ask maybe ok why is this or that to be polite etc but won't get involved at all.

posted June 10, 2018 03:01 PM            

Other guys find emotional talk and doing the more "softer" stuff a bone killer. As they fear things feminine will have them "lose" the ghusto of being all "male"

Aqua energy will often be very passionate about things unrelated to them personally i.e an Aqua straight identifying female would for instance fight courageously for LGBTI rights.

Whilst the same female may bypass feeling the equal fervor for her brother's socially imposed on limitations because of his mental illness etc.

My mate also yawns or seems to get bored when I get personal about his feelings. He does not like dissecting himself.

But he will gladly talk about my feelings or project(I suspect) his own feelings on to something impersonal i.e a celeb, a TV character etc.

So when he gets really worked up about a character on TV who is misunderstood. What I read from that passionate reaction is that his identification with that character is that HE feels misunderstood.

But he will not come out and say it like that i.e" I don't think people understand me". But he will live through the character by saying "It is the fault of many to judge___(character)when few take the time to get to know him" etc.

Try talking about personal stuff but project it away from it being about you. Rather take a more philosophical bendnon it i.e

If you want to talk of loyalty in friendship for instance, you could open with "Harvey(character) mentioned in the last scenes of Batman that you either die a hero. Or you live long enough to see yourself become a villain.

And that line alone was enough to see my own friends turn from seeing me as a hero to being a villain. And I don't know how that happened?"

If this does not get your Aqua to get more " emotional", I have lost my Aqua touch

They usually love poetry in conversations. Because in their heads,they are not living mundane everyday lives of mere mortals. Oh no.

They are the Marvel characters with super powers (Uranus and Neptune rules the aforementioned) or Plato/Socrates whom are
contemplating the meaning of life etc.

So most things are impersonal in their minds. That is how they can be properly dissected and observed.

By removing oneself from them(like a scientist would- which is what I imagine most Aqua/Uranus types of people think themselves as being)

You don't have to be superficial. Just turn the conversation and make it more philosophical or "universal" than personal.

If you get the hang of that, you are likely to get a more passionate response from them that may even surprise you.

posted June 10, 2018 06:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Surely he wasn't always like this. How did you get close to him if he was distant with you?

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posted June 10, 2018 11:10 PM            

I recently discovered, with my clever Libra Tropical/Virgo Sidedeal ways, that when someone doesn’t contact you when you are always contacting them; THEY are not your friend.
So it was odd cuz he never contacts me but when I did contact him he said I was his bestie. So I’m a way that counteracts it.

posted June 12, 2018 12:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
I don't know about the full situation, if you've actually shared intimate feelings/confessed to anything. What I do know is that Aquarians are very friendly. So friendly that some can think that the Aqua is hitting on them, or just be enchanted by such friendliness.

It's not really being a player (which can't be ruled out), but think of it as two 8 year old kids. They want to play together, spend time together, have fun, talk - but since they're kids, they're just thinking in terms of friendship, but not romance. Kid's will even "flirt" (non-romantically) by giving compliments, saying and doing nice things, but there's no sexual or romantic subtext to it. Whereas when we're older, if someone is being very friendly, we'll tend to think of it as courting.

So when dealing with Aquas, what must be found out is if they're just being friendly, and only want to be friends (for some Aquarians, friendship can even matter more than romance)
or if they want something else. So with Aquarius, even though they tend to move fast, one would ideally take it slow and try to figure out where they stand.

A good way to do this is to meet them at their level, and show them you can. I.E, be friendly, too. Try and think of them in terms of friendship. They'll feel the pressure if you ask to go out with them, and behind your asking there's the subtext of "ok let's move this courting along and start dating."

Another example is if you say to them "You have beautiful eyes ;D" or something that seems flirty, if there's the subtext of wanting to be more than just friends, they'll likely feel it.

So, the Aquarian you mentioned, the one that didn't take the opportunity to drive you home, it could be that they feel that pressure, and they're trying not to lead you on (possibly).

Aqua can be tricky in this way, but learning to be okay with just being friends first often works best. Show them you're so secure that if they want you romantically = yay! And if they want to just be friends = also yay!

These are all just possibilities I'm throwing out there.

Another thing to keep in mind is that Aquarius is really indecisive. In some ways, deciding things for them, or rather, letting them know what you want, while also not making them feel obliged to give it to you, goes a long way.

Aquarius is in its fall in the sun, so this is exacerbated, and they likely have difficulties deciding what they really want, and will also tend to hide how they really feel. They'll put on an air that's contrary to everything inside them. Even can act "brave" and cocky when they're frightened.

And if they like someone, they could act the complete opposite, like it makes no difference to them.

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posted June 12, 2018 06:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Most guys have learned to simulate emotional connection in order to "get" the cookie.

Other guys find emotional talk and doing the more "softer" stuff a bone killer. As they fear things feminine will have them "lose" the ghusto of being all "male"

Aqua energy will often be very passionate about things unrelated to them personally i.e an Aqua straight identifying female would for instance fight courageously for LGBTI rights.

Whilst the same female may bypass feeling the equal fervor for her brother's socially imposed on limitations because of his mental illness etc.

My mate also yawns or seems to get bored when I get personal about his feelings. He does not like dissecting himself.

But he will gladly talk about my feelings or project(I suspect) his own feelings on to something impersonal i.e a celeb, a TV character etc.

So when he gets really worked up about a character on TV who is misunderstood. What I read from that passionate reaction is that his identification with that character is that HE feels misunderstood.

But he will not come out and say it like that i.e" I don't think people understand me". But he will live through the character by saying "It is the fault of many to judge___(character)when few take the time to get to know him" etc.

Try talking about personal stuff but project it away from it being about you. Rather take a more philosophical bendnon it i.e

If you want to talk of loyalty in friendship for instance, you could open with "Harvey(character) mentioned in the last scenes of Batman that you either die a hero. Or you live long enough to see yourself become a villain.

And that line alone was enough to see my own friends turn from seeing me as a hero to being a villain. And I don't know how that happened?"

If this does not get your Aqua to get more " emotional", I have lost my Aqua touch

They usually love poetry in conversations. Because in their heads,they are not living mundane everyday lives of mere mortals. Oh no.

They are the Marvel characters with super powers (Uranus and Neptune rules the aforementioned) or Plato/Socrates whom are
contemplating the meaning of life etc.

So most things are impersonal in their minds. That is how they can be properly dissected and observed.

By removing oneself from them(like a scientist would- which is what I imagine most Aqua/Uranus types of people think themselves as being)

You don't have to be superficial. Just turn the conversation and make it more philosophical or "universal" than personal.

If you get the hang of that, you are likely to get a more passionate response from them that may even surprise you.

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Thank you so much Aries23degrees for the enlightment! <3

I do understand how you mean now when I have thought about it!

Ironically, he is not that uranian, not compared with me I believe, yes he has Asc Aquarius and uranus is aspecting his asc.
But other then that his uranus is aspecting;
Venus, mercury and jupiter.

I think I'm more uranian because mine is aspecting; Sun-Mercury-Mars-Moon-chiron.
I think especially the aspects to sun and moon makes me a bit more uranian the him. I loove dissecting my emotions and thoughts, and find objective angles to them haha.

With that said, yes I can surely see how you mean, approaching emotions, feelings with a philosophical angle, that his libra side would love aswell!

I think our dynamics are a bit complex (asll human interactions are!) so there is many nuances from day to day on how he acts and reacts to me and my communication with him. But yes thats too much info to share here of course.

Of what I have understood, he never "self-reflects". He never thinks about stuff that much at all. He is all happy go lucky and he says that he never think about deep stuff when alone, or never have to "process feelings" and what not.

Of what I have noticed, he is though moody and under that libra-leo surface, there is a darkness. He has a 12th house Mars, his own anger is hidden from him.
This is not healthy at all, I think he will explode some day!

Sorry I'm of topic, again! What got me thinking is, last month we were talking about philosophical stuff, and religion. And I was asking him the type of questions like you mentioned, and it was a very nive back n forth conversation. It was not a "heated debate" and we both were very calm about it.

After we parted ways that day, I felt so energized! It was so werid to me because I should have felt unsatisfied bc we did not talk "emotional" stuff.

But it suddenly hit me. How my energy is emotionally drained when I try to connect with him emotionally, how exposed I feel afterwards, even though my pluto side does not mind exposing deep feelings. But I feel so tired and always so unsatisfied bc he does not give me the same "emotional" energy back.
But I would go on anyway like that, because its what I crave.

But as said I felt so light and energized. And it hit me, this is why men does not like talking emotional stuff! And they prefer more objective non-emotional subjects, because they don't feel exposed that way! And feeling exposed is draining of ones energy! I got it, finally! Haha

I guess my Uranus-Moon side was nurtured by that energy!