posted June 28, 2018 06:37 PM              

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Post your chart. Let's see.

My first thought is Neptune in 11th. But I don't want to wing it.

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You probably know more about astrology than me.

posted June 28, 2018 07:45 PM            

There are some transits that present energies promoting and describing change. Pluto has been in transit parallel natal Uranus [21S05] for a few years now (since 2014). That transit alone signifies a period in which there will be transformation in how you connect to group and societal energies.

Also, Uranus now transits exactly parallel natal Sun [11N38]. That is more recent and adds to the Uranian factor in the Pluto to Uranus transit. It is time to shift to a different social context -- based on a more open understanding of yourself and willingness to risk and experiment.

Saturn has been in transit parallel your natal Neptune [22S10] for a while now, limiting the idealism in your perspective and asking that you prioritize practical needs for re-imagining what is best. Mars has recently joined Saturn in that area of 22° south declination, reinforcing.

Progressed Moon nearly exactly square natal Sun + prog Venus's just culminated opposition to natal Moon helps bring into focus your feelings and needs and their relation to your will power towards what you want. This can be a moment of pivotal change.

Prog Jupiter will soon be culminating its trine to natal Mars, allowing for new venues of action with greater confidence.

Neptune's culminated square to natal Mercury indicates the culmination of a pronounced natal issue: confused ideations and communications, a pattern that can change if abstractions are not allowed to paralyze actions.

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts

posted June 28, 2018 09:47 PM            

On my side I would like to say that feeling like you don't belong usually has more to do with you than your friendships.
Something that is changing within you.

I noticed that your Asc/DC is 28Vir and Pisc whilst Mc/Ic axis is 27 Gem/Sag respectively. I am Sun in Sag 29 Deg and I have also been feeling a little sombre.

The "belonging" part for me screams the Ic axis. Whilst the feeling disconnected from others is DC.

The Ic is the core of our emotional shell and its respective affiliation is the Moon(which speaks of closeness).

The DC is our point of connection to others we want to interact with closely. And is the point of relationship building and sustenance.

First off natal Neptune is progressing to conjunct your Ic and square you DSC.

Not only will this reevaluate for you what "closeness" and "family" means from a relative "bloodline" sense(Ic)

But it could also end up with you feeling very confused about the relationships that you have in your life as a whole(DSC)

Neptune confuses and exasperates logic. Its aim is to transcend the realm of the "known" and go to unknown.

Perhaps your loneliness right now will bring you closer to the realization that we are all essentially lonesome at our core but are very good at pretending that we are fine.

And that we use external things i.e friends, boyfriends etc to fill up that void. But essentially it can't be filled by any of these but something that comes from within.

This means that we have to take responsibility of how we feel and begin affirming that from inside out. Instead of wanting it to come from outside in.

It makes sense that you want to retreat and shutdown right now. That is fine. But luckily Neptune has its ebb and flow and so you will not always be feeling that way.

When you do feel more optimistic on some days, continue to maintain contact with those that you feel most emotionally comforted by. They may be more understanding/attentive and not impersonal (which is what you need)

Add to Neptune progressing to your natal Ic/Dsc(which will probably stay moving in the 4th house all your life mind you) transiting Saturn in Cap is in retrograde motion in the 4th house. And may also move ever so closer to the Ic/DSC.

Saturn there emphasises further what I said above. But it adds its own flavour by making things seem very bleak,hopeless and permanent in those respective areas of life(when they are really not)

You may go more inwards right now. But don't believe in the depression too much. It is just time for you to get real about which people you want to be around you and which are "dead wood"

When Saturn is done, you will know which of your group members are true friends and your lonesome feelings will be restored to ones of renewed faith in quality of ties instead of quantity.

Now Neptune progression will stay in 4th. And this may induce a recluse personality as you grow. But it need not be that way.

It could mean that spiritual pursuits may take on more momentum as you bond with like minded people and find a sense of community(4th) with them.

Right now there is a square aspect between your natal Sun/Moon and your progressed Moon. Progressed Venus/Mars join this chaotic buildup by interacting with the Sun/Moon natal as well as the progressed Moon.

So the emotional self(Moon)is feeling conflicted and stressed. There is a fear of taking a firm direction in anything and add to this, the tension of added Mars wants you to act NOW.

You don't have to let Mars destroy your sense of peace. Have the energy work with you by doing something creative(Leo) or find an exhaustive outlet for it etc.

Since you are feeling a little inhibited now, why not invite close friends over for a "chill" session.

This could involve talking about "girl" stuff whilst painting, playing board games watching a live Dvd of a singer or doing something involving crafts.

The irony with your progression planets is that as you feel more introverted, the conjunction of Venus/Mars in Leo wants to pull out all the drama. And so a love interest may pop up suddenly right now or a crush may inconveniently develop on someone.

Just be sure that if it does develop, don't put all your hopes on it to avoid dealing with moving through the temporary loneliness(Sat on DSC/Ic and progressed Nep on DSC/Ic). Because you may take it more seriously than the other person and be devastated when they can't deal with your intensity.

The group bond session thing is a good idea to strengthen the ties that already exist instead of pinning hopes on a new one to pan out.

posted June 29, 2018 06:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Post your chart. Let's see.

My first thought is Neptune in 11th. But I don't want to wing it.

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Why this placement Aries?

posted June 29, 2018 10:24 AM            

Saturn is a close second in heightening the feeling of being "isolated".

If u have Uranus on the 11th house cusp, you have a all types of friends . But are no permanent member of any group. U prefer to go inconspicuously from one group to another-no set alliance or loyalty card.

If you have Moon in the 11th, your friends can be the most awesome people you will ever know on Monday. But come Tuesday or even that same day, they are the most horrible people that you don't ever want to associate with. Ever.

Neptune on the 11th has you " fade away" into the group. You are there physically but the rest of you is mia. And you are often "go with the flow" with a very unclear sense of whom is truly your friend and whom is just an associate.

Saturn in 11th may result in peers ignoring you or avoiding you because you appear so rigid, "stiff" and boring. You are often left out of the fun times but are the first to be called when there is a crises and your level headed nature is needed.

I am the Aquarius on the 11th house cusp with Saturn parrallel the 11th house cusp.

I don't have many "friends". Only two. And most times groups feel more like a burden to me(Sat) so I find myself declining group related stuff if the company therein is going to encourage a night that ends with someone being locked up!

posted June 29, 2018 12:06 PM            

Transiting Chiron, is still new in Aries, and relatively still-new and getting used to being in your 7th House (enemies you know, and one-on-one relationships). You are still 'adjusting' self to that energy. Your perceptions could be 'off', and the way you behave gives off clues to others. A lot of time we can be 'restless' inside our self-- antsy. It can give off totally unintended vibes to others? If they don't already know you, and are familiar with your ways, then you can encounter slight challenges, which in the end, will Serve you.

Chiron Aries will be turning around and once again be conjunct your Descendant later this year.

REF for above thoughts -- You are experiencing "Chiron sextile Chiron." Extra-sensitivity to 'moods' of others for a while.

29+ Leo Sun! wow … ROARRRR. LOL.
Born just before the Full Moon in Aquarius.

Sometimes 'the King' needs the people he associates with (H11) to give him some simple reassurance that people still love him, they need him, and are there for him.

I applaud you for communicating your experience right now, and testing your imaginations?
{Merc{words} square 'Neptune sextile Moon'?}

Consider also....
Whether or not people accept you or don't, is not the most important thing. What is MOST important is how you-yourself judge and value what you FEEL inside about your own belonging.

It is known that people (and some relationships) can be fickle...
In general, they can love you one minute, then condemn you in the next.

Feedback is nice...
And!!!!, YOU decide inside YOU {{ }}

Feed yourself with the thoughts and feedback from people who love you. {Let go of the rest.}

Affirm to self that you Are Accepted, and Valued, and Loved. Get that DEEP inside of you.

You were born under the Royal Star of REGULUS for a special reason...

Take care of that InnerChild.
Be Gentle and Warm with your self.
AND humble.
Gently, learn inner-humility during those times you feel you don't belong anymore, while the spotlight is inward, on your feelings.

Play more …. just play.
Know you are needed very much.
There's A Reason for you to Be Here.

Life can be serious... and people need to Play to be refreshed. Some people can afford vacations to 'get away'.. others do it in their imaginations.

REST when you need to, and SHINE during the times it's needed for you to step-out.

Be there on that stage Leo!
Rely on the people who tell you the truth.
Not just the sycophants.

The tides of belonging and popularity are like waves on the sands. Whenever the tide is out, that's the time to rest and take inventory of what you might do or create, to serve the needs around you better, when the waves are in?

(music) When He Shines (Sheena Easton, 1981) [3:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5r6En6uPtQ

posted June 29, 2018 12:19 PM            

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Neptune on the 11th has you " fade away" into the group. You are there physically but the rest of you is mia. And you are often "go with the flow" with a very unclear sense of whom is truly your friend and whom is just an associate.

Saturn in 11th may result in peers ignoring you or avoiding you because you appear so rigid, "stiff" and boring. You are often left out of the fun times but are the first to be called when there is a crises and your level headed nature is needed.

I am the Aquarius on the 11th house cusp with Saturn parallel the 11th house cusp.

I don't have many "friends". Only two. And most times groups feel more like a burden to me(Sat) so I find myself declining group related stuff if the company therein is going to encourage a night that ends with someone being locked up!

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That's a way of them losing a VERY Valuable person to be part of their life.

posted June 29, 2018 08:01 PM            

It seems many of these influences are not passing by any time soon. Especially progressions. I can't help but wondering is this my live next multiple years or even decades? Especially as im feeling tired of my life,im angry and disappoint about things i didn't get (love, family, normal life.), my inability to get those things,how i have been treated etc.

posted July 03, 2018 10:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
If u have Uranus on the 11th house cusp, you have a all types of friends . But are no permanent member of any group. U prefer to go inconspicuously from one group to another-no set alliance or loyalty card.

Neptune on the 11th has you " fade away" into the group. You are there physically but the rest of you is mia. And you are often "go with the flow" with a very unclear sense of whom is truly your friend and whom is just an associate.

Saturn in 11th may result in peers ignoring you or avoiding you because you appear so rigid, "stiff" and boring. You are often left out of the fun times but are the first to be called when there is a crises and your level headed nature is needed.

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posted July 04, 2018 11:57 AM            

You must feel very vulnerable right now, but... I believe that Chiron rules Virgo. So, your ruling planet which is all about healing and understanding your own 'flaws' and pains in life, is a prime focus in your life path.

Maybe forget socialising in the traditional way for now. What about getting involved with some community activities? Let your Sun-Venus shine out more naturally but find some way you can give back to those who are suffering and need help around you?

You will gain the best sense of self from switching the focus back to giving out, but not wasting this kindness on those who do not need or appreciate it (i.e. the friends you are growing out of).

The way you are feeling is a 'message' from the soul that you need to feel a more clear sense of what you are giving and helping people with.

Even just being a great listener to those who are struggling (and believe me, there are so many people who are desperate to be heard and accepted with no judgement or agenda) will make a huge difference to your sense of purpose. Mercury conjunct ASC brings this to the forefront anyway.

Sending reiki hugs.

posted July 05, 2018 12:42 AM            

Actually i liked to help people but that went sour on me as i noticed it wasn't ever coming back to me. So i forced myself to stop that about 5 years ago. Or tone it down hugely. That decision brought me pain also but its better for keeping self-respect.

posted July 05, 2018 12:44 AM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
Hi. I’m just on here to send you positive vibes. I’m sorry that you have been going through some rough periods. But know that you have my love and warm thoughts being sent to you. ❤️❤️❤️

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posted July 05, 2018 05:44 AM            

With Chiron you will always feel your own pain primarily, but without this you can never really have true compassion and love for others. It’s our own vulnerabilities that cause us to be kind and loving to others. So it works both ways, but often with Chiron in a prominent position, (in your case, as it rules your Mercury-Ascendant you will feel the transits strongly) we will feel ‘unprotected’ in our childhood, and at times during our adult lives too.

It’s not an easy planet/asteroid to integrate. I’m feeling you, I have transiting Chiron square my Moon at the moment and so my own weaknesses and fears have been coming to the surface. As soon as I noticed that was happening though, I also had an influx of people booking me for reiki & readings. Chiron breaks down your barriers to the world.

The truth is you can’t give to receive. It’s not the way it works. When being loving, supportive and kind it is important to only give what won’t deplete your own energy. Loving the SELF has to be the focus, as it makes you the source of your own personal energy.

If you can do some meditations to heal your own energy and work on your forgiveness it will help you more forwards. Your resentment towards others is draining your own personal energy. That’s a waste and effectively you are *still* giving your own energy to others when you are focusing upon them!

Focus on you for now. Do give to those who are needy and also the animals. Animals are the most appreciate of love I find. They teach us the value of unconditional love; melded with a strong sense of the self. Humans are have a lot to learn….

posted July 17, 2018 01:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Valmu83:

Thanks for answering people. I'm just heading home after nightout and i have to say its hard descript the compination of guilt, boredom and sadness i feel when im with people. It's like i feel like outsider and at the same time i don't have enegry or ability to make an effort. I would like to have friendships that are working..but i don't know what is wrong.

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I feel the same way. I feel like I don't belong. I also have moon in Aquarius like you. It's hard you know. I understand. It's like a feeling a bit hard to describe. But it feels like you're on the outside looking in.