posted July 30, 2018 06:31 AM            

My friend "cuts off" from me very often. Its taught me indifference.

posted July 30, 2018 01:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Its a defense mechanism. Let them be.

My friend "cuts off" from me very often. Its taught me indifference.

I think for you to attract Moon/Uranus, you gotta have strong Uranus in your chart too. Do you?

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I know it’s teaching me how to not have a co dependent relationship and for that I’m grateful. But it’s difficult at the same time. He’s done this before, I go through a mini crisis and then he communicates with me again after some kind of rebirth. For us both.
Yes I have strong Uranus. It conjuncts my ASC. It quintiles/biquintiles my sun/moon/Mercury/mars, it trines my Jupiter. I also have Juno in Aqua.
At the same time I am very Plutonian. Scorpio asc. Sun/Mercury in my 8th trine Pluto. Pluto semisquare moon/mars.
Constant battle between wanting to consume and wanting/giving space.

posted July 30, 2018 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Yep, it is a defense mechanism. Thing with them especially (as with most), is you can't really help them change, or even force them to. They have to want it. Uranus-moon and Aqua moon are often driven by fear in a roundabout way (side ruler Saturn). Their detachment and hypermentalism and intellectualism can make them come up with all sorts of narratives and cover up reasons for why they are the way they are, why they do what they do, etc. Some of them aren't even aware of how fearful they are because they're so detached. That's also why their higher expression is so attracted to truth and objectivity, because they wish to find the truth within themselves, but they have to want it for themselves. Forcing the truth on them will just cause them to answer with more detachment.

There's this thread here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/210161.html

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Thanks Lala 🙏 this is the thing. I’ve tried communicating my feelings to him when he’s done this in the past but he offers numbness. Like he can’t access his emotions. What’s a person to do? I’m a huuuuge advocate of giving space but if only he could COMMUNICATE that to me I’d feel safety in that space you know? Rather than just drop off into silence.

@ sleepydiary - no I haven’t done anything. He’s overthinking things as usual. He’s a scorpio moon conjunct Uranus. Also conjunct Venus/mars. I’m such a patient and understand person believe you me. Almost too much lol. The issue is that he knows my ex husband and is friends with his friends. No one knows about us being in love. He feels a sense of guilt that he’s involved with me (Libra sun) even though he knows deep down we are right for each other. He told me he has wronged them in the past too. I don’t know the exact details of that. We were super close, more than ever before. He’s coming to see me abroad and we have been trying to figure out how to stay over here with visas etc together. He then bumped into them all at a party the other night after a while and since then he’s gone distant. He told me it was uncomfortable when they asked him “so what are you planning to do over there?” He’s battling following his truth.
Problem is if I try and communicate with him when he’s shut down he probably won’t budge. He gets here in 6 days so I guess it’s better to have this conversation in person rather than Snapchat..

posted July 30, 2018 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Its a defense mechanism. Let them be.

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posted July 30, 2018 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

I think for you to attract Moon/Uranus, you gotta have strong Uranus in your chart too. Do you?

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Would having chart ruler Jupiter conjunct Uranus be considered a strong Uranus influence?

Ex-Sun conjunct Uranus in scorpio
Partner-Mars conjunct Uranus on the DC in scorpio square venus
Lover-Venus in Aquarius
Parents-Venus in Aquarius lol
First boyfriend- Aquarius
First lover- Aquarius

posted July 30, 2018 03:33 PM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
I know it’s teaching me how to not have a co dependent relationship and for that I’m grateful. But it’s difficult at the same time. He’s done this before, I go through a mini crisis and then he communicates with me again after some kind of rebirth. For us both.
Yes I have strong Uranus. It conjuncts my ASC. It quintiles/biquintiles my sun/moon/Mercury/mars, it trines my Jupiter. I also have Juno in Aqua.
At the same time I am very Plutonian. Scorpio asc. Sun/Mercury in my 8th trine Pluto. Pluto semisquare moon/mars.
Constant battle between wanting to consume and wanting/giving space.

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I empathize with you. Its easier to be friends with Uranus types than being involved romantically in one.

Could you perhaps be subconsciously attracted to people who pull a "Houdini" on ya?

With Asc/Uranus interaction, closeness /intimacy is NOT your default mode. And these are the signals you project.

I think of this aspect as the "girl who dances on tables at parties" i.e She may be a shy, reserved person internally. But her electrifying image may unnerve more conservative types or make them uncomfortable.

So she will attract those who relate to her energy and eccentric nature. And detract those who find it intimidating. (Barring Moon/Venus or Pluto in hard aspect to the Asc).

Even if she is a lot more grounded or down to earth etc. It is not immediately apparent. Atleast not until one gets to know her better etc.

Your Sun/Mercury trine Pluto wants more consistency. But this is not forthcoming from the mate. And this "open endedness" is attractive until its not.

You will have to learn to be less depended on your mate. Its how the Moon-Uranus thing goes am afraid. Otherwise you WILL go batty. Lol.

No matter how painful it is to you, emotional(Moon) interruption (Uranus) is their modus operandi. And it would be easier to just walk off if they were not so damne interesting.

posted July 30, 2018 03:35 PM            

Detachment is the key. What you do is on your end in relation to your feelings, not some trick of communication or other attempt at reeling them back in.

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts

posted July 30, 2018 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Would having chart ruler Jupiter conjunct Uranus be considered a strong Uranus influence?

Ex-Sun conjunct Uranus in scorpio
Partner-Mars conjunct Uranus on the DC in scorpio square venus
Lover-Venus in Aquarius
Parents-Venus in Aquarius lol
First boyfriend- Aquarius
First lover- Aquarius

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I would say that if there is a Uranus pattern to close lovers. You could have Uranus quietly (or not so quietly lol) operating behind the scenes.

Uranus could be strong by declinations. Or even by midpoint. So take a strong look at that.

I for instance have Uranus/Merc=Sun and Ura/Moon= Sun. Uranus parallel the Mc/Ic axis.

The thing I have always believed is that we always attract that which we are. We can always deny ourselves in the mirror but project what we "fail" to see in ourselves on to others. And the stronger the attraction, the more clear the "mirror".

Uranus to me when healthy infuses excitement and versatility in close relationships. It can certainly help longevity.

When in overdrive, it can stimulate fears of "losing" freedom or being emotionally dependent and vulnerable. Fears that can end up destroying something worthwhile.

It must be borne in mind that all cries for freedom could also be centred around the intrinsic and persistent belief of the individual being "imprisoned".

It rarely has anything to do with the external person. But something the individual struggles with internally(often psychologically).

posted July 30, 2018 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

But one thing you have to eventually decide upon is which is more important to you:an interesting lover who never commits or follows through. Or a serious mate who is a lot less "interesting"?

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You can have both. My partner is very interesting, funny, smart, and relationship material and he has mars-uranus-dc square venus but his big three are all relationship signs sun in libra, moon in cancer, taurus rising. He has juno conjunct saturn and literally does not believe in divorce.

He is not boring and is very interesting...yeah I need interesting, I can't do boring LOL but it has been 11 years so I might be bored at this point although I still care a lot about him.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

I think of this aspect as the "girl who dances on tables at parties"

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Ha I danced on top of a table with my best friend then at Miami Beach hahaha

I am always the one that starts dancing right away, always up for dancing.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

No matter how painful it is to you, emotional(Moon) interruption (Uranus) is their modus operandi.

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posted July 30, 2018 04:06 PM            

It would be helpfull with more information. I know you asked about one aspect only but, well its so complicated with charts, one uranus-moon is not alike the other uranus-moon, really its so many things to concider its super frustrating. I mean, if its about someone going radio silent etc, you can neve take behaviour like that out of context and only focus on uranus-moon. The person surely have a lot more aspects pointing to that kind of behaviour.

But atleast: is it a man or woman?

Does the moon have other aspects aswell other then to uranus?

Is uranus conjunct saturn?

What house are they at?

For me as an uranus oppo moon I would not be your typical uranus-moon person.
Because my moon is with mars and chiron and also saturn is with uranus so it really grounds uranus erratic energy for me atleast.

I don't think detaching is what I do when I cut off or want space. I only would want space for a few reasons:

If I wanna decharge by sitting in my room or being in the nature alone for a few days, thinking about my emotions and feeelings etc. Or just read a book or write or something. I will be ok after some alone time.

If I have invested emotionally and not gotten back anything emotionally in return, then bye. But thats saturn I think.

If the person has done something hurtful or have done something for a loong time and I have tried to keep it together, then it means I'm emotionally drained and wanna have alone time. How much and for how long depends, but durig that period, I really wanna hear from the person! Even if I may not text back answer calls etc telling the peron "I'm not well and wanna rest some", I really would apreciate hearing from the person. Knowing he/she cares warms my heart.

Not hearing at all from him/her would put further wedge into my emotions. As turks say "never let coldness sip in between you and your friend/loved ones, patch things up before it gets too cold! ".

So you see, everyone is different.

posted July 30, 2018 04:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

And so its NEVER the mates fault when the Uranus individual wants to "break free".

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Well sometimes people want to break free bc is time for change and to let something new into in your life and bc the relationship has outgrown its purpose or bc some needs are chronically not been met or both.

Jupiter expands and multiples what it touches and is my chart ruler and conjuncts my uranus exact which is the tightest aspect in my chart, further it sentagon my venus conjunct mars in the 8th (100 degree aspect), I wish I knew more about sentagons, and quindeciles my northnode (165 degree aspect).

posted July 30, 2018 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well sometimes people want to break free bc is time for change and to let something new into in your life and bc the relationship has outgrown its purpose or bc some needs are chronically not been met or both.

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posted July 30, 2018 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
If so please bump for me!

I need help with what to do when they cut off emotionally......

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You have told him how it makes you feel to be cut off emotionally and shown him vulnerability. Now tell him you can sense he needs space and will let him be, tell him he can reach out to you whenever he wants to see you or talk but you are leaving him alone.

posted July 30, 2018 05:55 PM            

It’s not disinterest on his part. As I said above somewhere, it’s him overthinking things with my ex and their friends. He feels guilty about being in love with me because he has wronged them in the past. No one knows about us. So he needs to face this.. he saw them at a party the other night and this is what has triggered his silence.

@hyp 💜
Whenever I’ve left it in the past and not messaged him, he always feels free to return. So maybe I wait it out until he arrives here on Sunday. Or maybe I send him a little love heart and a thinking bubble to show I’m still here... 💭💓

posted July 30, 2018 06:03 PM            

Guilt, fear of what others will say, "over thinking" are all products of this house as it is the house of self doubt and questions that have no clear/easy answers etc.