posted October 12, 2011 02:17 AM            

I also have a Sun in Cancer, Asc in Aries, Venus in Gemini and Mars in Cancer. So maybe those aspects to Uranus also have an impact.

Here's what the article says:

The Moon is the heart of the natal chart. When a person needs security, they turn inward to its familiar, intimate energy. It represents childhood and mother. Its element is water. Any feelings (or lack thereof) in love relationships will be decided by the condition of the natal Moon.

Uranus in the natal chart is responsible for upheaval. Its energy comes from a distant place, blasting away the things that need to be changed. It represents anything new, innovative or shocking. Its element is air. It is the universal alarm clock.

Anytime the Moon makes an aspect to Uranus in the natal chart, the emotional and the detached are combined. A good illustration of this is the moment of birth: the infant is yanked from its safe, watery environment and feels the awakening slap of cold air. What does this mean for the Moon-Uranus person in a relationship?

It helps to understand where the Moon-Uranus person is coming from. The Moon in any hard aspect (conjunction, opposition, square) to Uranus can indicate a traumatic event in childhood where security was ripped away. A quick word about aspects: I am focusing on hard aspects because they indicate trauma more than the harmonious trines and sextiles. Although all Moon-Uranus aspects will have a similar theme, the way the energies interact will vary according to the aspect. In a square, the two planets are butting heads. The opposition has the two planets at opposite ends of a table shouting at each other. The conjunction is the two in an uneasy dance where both partners try to lead.

The Moon-Uranus child’s response to trauma was deciding not to trust in emotional safety ever again. As an adult, this memory is carried into relationships. The Moon-Uranus person feels and acts like a detached outsider, reluctant to form any long-term bonds. They can develop an uncompromising attitude in relationships as a way of protecting themselves, deciding on the level of freedom and commitment without discussing things with their partner.

Their approach to committed relationships varies from restlessness to outright panic. What the Moon-Uranus person fears is being trapped and hurt. Someone with a Moon-Uranus square may be continually attracted to unreliable types. The energy of the square causes open tension which drives them forward to do something now. They can throw themselves into destructive relationships which they know, on some level, will not last. Or they may abruptly end a relationship if their partner (usually without knowing) restricts their freedom in some way. Someone with a Moon-Uranus opposition may dither for years over committing to anyone. The opposition causes a hard-to-define underlying tension. With a conjunction there may be less tension, but the energy of Uranus will still be prominent. They will stubbornly insist that the relationship operate according to their idea of commitment, which will not be typical. It may range from having an open relationship to simply needing more alone time than most people.

Moon-Uranus is not an emotionally stable combination. By itself, the energy of the Moon is constantly changing (reflecting its phases in the sky). Uranus has an erratic energy that can flare up and die quickly. Moon-Uranus people are drawn to whatever is new (Uranus is responsible for love or lust at first sight). But new fades quickly, and as a relationship settles into routine, the Moon-Uranus person finds their interest waning and finally disappearing. Sensations feel dulled, as if they were wrapped in a thin sheet of plastic.

Being involved with a Moon-Uranus person can be bewildering. The relationship starts with a glorious rush. The partner is flattered and overwhelmed by the attentions of this fascinating outsider. Over time, the partner notices how the Moon-Uranus person flatly refuses to do certain things (like making plans more then a few days in advance). The partner wonders how someone so apparently free-spirited can be so rigid at the same time. During conversations, the Moon-Uranus person will suddenly switch off: they’ll continue to talk, but emotionally they’ve left the room. Attempts to build intimacy cause them to distance themselves further.

Many Moon-Uranus types may be perfectly aware of the roots of their behaviour. Uranian detachment brings insight, so they are able to stand back and observe themselves. They may even offer helpful explanations to their partners. While this sounds healthy, it’s actually another way for the Moon-Uranus person to escape. For example, a Moon-Uranus person discovers that their partner is cheating. They will feel hurt, but the instant the hurt becomes apparent, they jump back to a safe distance. Whatever feelings they had for their partner have been replaced with numbness. Their reaction, depending on the rest of their chart, may range from, “No worries, it happens,” to, “Right. I’m leaving now”. Either way, it’s unlikely that they will be intimate with their partner again. The partner, expecting a display of hurt and/or anger, is confused. The Moon-Uranus person may calmly explain that they feel numb, and this reminds them of the time when they were six and their Dad walked out. Rather than feeling what’s happening, they describe the absence of feeling.

But before we write off Moon-Uranus folk as being condemned to a life of watching from the sidelines, remember that everything in astrology has two sides. The insight these people have into their emotions is a powerful tool. They’ve already covered the territory that others spend years in therapy trying to work through. They are not possessive, and they give their partners just as much freedom as they ask for themselves. They don’t hold grudges: these are the people who remain friends with their exes. And let’s not forget the power of Uranus as the great awakener. If you’re involved with a Moon-Uranus person, you’re involved with an innovator and rule-breaker. Get ready to toss any stale ideas about relationships out the window.

The key for the Moon-Uranus person is compromise and patience. With compromise, they will find that the freedom they have been guarding so closely is actually more available to them. If they suggest rather than insist, they will find that their partner is usually open to giving them the space they need. With the right partner, they will also find that the switching off of emotions is not a permanent condition. If they wait out the numbness, it often fades and the feelings they had for their partner are still there.

posted October 12, 2011 07:56 AM            

I've also always thought that moon-uranus aspect means the person is not stable; especially if the signs involved are mutable.

I still have a friendship/ don't know what to call it- relationship with a Gemini who has his moon in Virgo squaring his Uranus.

When we first met, I thought the idea of us being together was ridiculous and ironicaly, the relationship became one of my longest lasting.

But I don't know hey, I found him to be exceptionally clingy but, paradoxically, very emotionally cool and unavailable.

I'd try to get in touch with him, well atleast my moon in Cancer would, but I'd
always feel that , even though he would stare at me with those soft eyes, he had no idea what I was talking about.

He often said :"All I know is that I love you." For me, I guess, that simply was not enough.Though I loved him too,I couldn't see a future for us.

Its possible that he feared the ruin of his relationship that he did all he knew "technically" to keep it together?

But I think he left out the most important part;himself.In the end, you just can't sustain something from a distance without letting yourself get "dirty", no matter how perfectly you've followed the recipe.

Another one with this position is a friend of mine. He has his moon in Pisces squaring his Uranus and he hasn't had the most stable home life.

His father left his mother when he was very young and, as a result, he's always wanted that feeling of being part of a family.

Even though he is a Gemini, his involved with a Taurian and they've been together for years now, too long to remember, but it hasn't kept him from having "adventures" outside the relationship.

He is also a very demanding friend and can be awfully clingy. At some point, I've had to distance myself away from him because he started to involve me in his domestic issues and I just felt that that was too much.

posted October 12, 2011 09:14 AM              

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Being involved with a Moon-Uranus person can be bewildering. The relationship starts with a glorious rush. The partner is flattered and overwhelmed by the attentions of this fascinating outsider. Over time, the partner notices how the Moon-Uranus person flatly refuses to do certain things (like making plans more then a few days in advance). The partner wonders how someone so apparently free-spirited can be so rigid at the same time. During conversations, the Moon-Uranus person will suddenly switch off: they’ll continue to talk, but emotionally they’ve left the room. Attempts to build intimacy cause them to distance themselves further.
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this describes me to a "T".

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Many Moon-Uranus types may be perfectly aware of the roots of their behaviour. Uranian detachment brings insight, so they are able to stand back and observe themselves. They may even offer helpful explanations to their partners. While this sounds healthy, it’s actually another way for the Moon-Uranus person to escape. For example, a Moon-Uranus person discovers that their partner is cheating. They will feel hurt, but the instant the hurt becomes apparent, they jump back to a safe distance. Whatever feelings they had for their partner have been replaced with numbness. Their reaction, depending on the rest of their chart, may range from, “No worries, it happens,” to, “Right. I’m leaving now”. Either way, it’s unlikely that they will be intimate with their partner again. The partner, expecting a display of hurt and/or anger, is confused. The Moon-Uranus person may calmly explain that they feel numb, and this reminds them of the time when they were six and their Dad walked out. Rather than feeling what’s happening, they describe the absence of feeling.
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I always wondered this about myself. I feel that even though I have emotions, I feel that I bury them under a bunch of numbness. This isn't the most healthiest thing to do, I know, because it's like a dormant volcano. Eventually it is all going to need to come out and it ends up being a big mess. I can articulate my feelings when given the opportunity & explain my actions & emotions but it kind of hardens me against the person that I react to. I become distant from the person and actually can turn my feelings off.

posted October 12, 2011 10:52 AM            

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Originally posted by TrueTaurus:
I thought to myself that in life nothing is everlasting. Love, to me, is like holding a pigeon in your hand that wants to fly away.

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posted October 12, 2011 12:02 PM            

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Many Moon-Uranus types may be perfectly aware of the roots of their behaviour. Uranian detachment brings insight, so they are able to stand back and observe themselves. They may even offer helpful explanations to their partners. While this sounds healthy, it’s actually another way for the Moon-Uranus person to escape...Laki

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posted October 12, 2011 01:54 PM            

the other two were sweet.

one has repeatedly bailed.

the other one? very warm and caring though then they'd detach.. and i wouldn't hear from them.. i would then somehow bump into them or something and kinda try to say hi while they finished up on their phone and the tension i'd feel was like two magnets repelling one another.. it's like they tried to focus on the phone for as long as they could hoping that i'd just go away.

we started talking and they eventually warmed up again but then we sat down to have dinner with some of their friends and it was almost as if i didn't exist and all the attention was on the friend.. flirting was all over the place, it was ok because it was just innocent flirting no harm, no foul, but then the chart person would act as if i was some kind of virus and the most evil thing in the world..

the person has mars in my twelfth house and i would just not get it and i'd let it slide, taking it for what it was and then we went out to another place afterward with the same friends.... turns out that they're quite the social butterfly... all was ok.

no pressure, no demands.. my flirting, though? was not welcomed!

after watching them go around and chat up everyone, i figured ok, this is what they're like and i don't think they'd care if i end up talking to anyone either (i didn't know anyone there and i was just standing there, actually; didn't mind it but was getting bored) well... i was bought a few drinks.

they snapped.
they snapped and then they detached.
later only leaving with a hug and a bye and not so much as looking at me twice.

i texted them to ask what happened and they said nothing til the next day when they said they felt as if they were being smothered.

that they like being alone
nothing more
nothing less
and that that was it.

i said nothing else.

there's nothing for me to cry about anymore.

it's been three times that i've experienced something like that and what the moon/uranus folks might not seem to be able to understand, is that they undermine all trust and confidence not to mention intimacy and if they think they're capable of detaching and that no one else can, they've got another thing coming... because they're often going to get back the very same thing that they put out to those other people and when they want some nurturing and comforting, it'll just reaffirm that innate belief they refuse to let go of that no one will be there for them and that they're all alone and ok with it.

posted October 12, 2011 01:57 PM            

what did it accomplish?
i don't know.

posted October 12, 2011 02:06 PM            

if they do decide to keep em around, all of the uneasiness they have with their own emotional needs and requirements will be projected onto the other person and then they'd be reprimanded for being 'human'..

all human things are things they don't acknowledge or accept within themselves and thus, they will never accept them in another human being.

posted October 12, 2011 02:16 PM              

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
i think that for anyone dealing with someone who has a placement like that, should be aware that thye're not to expect any sort of equality in the relationship.. to the native, all partners are pretty much toys to be dismissed once they've fulfilled their purpose and nothing else.

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they don't fall in love with people
they fall in love with ideas
with entities
so if anything,
that's the best u could be.

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posted October 12, 2011 02:31 PM            

the very same thing they saw done
or the very same thing that affected them sooo deeply
they go about doing
again and again
but just to other people
almost so that they wouldn't feel alone
with the feelings themselves

they seem to wanna have somebody to share those feelings with.

i don't know why i've been such an ideal canvas to project all of these issues with when it comes to dealing these people.

and u know how they say that 'hurt people, hurt people'?

posted October 12, 2011 02:50 PM            

they created the lack of it and set it up for that to be the support itself

and then they refuse to let go of that
only that other people
find more acceptable or common ways
that don't induce the feelings of fear when it comes to dealing with it to the extent that the uranus/moon natives do.

healing circles
if any of u are reading,
get to some
find a shaman
have one done in your honor
attend
watch it play out
release the karma
and move on with your lives!

you're holding everyone back along with yourselves in that illusion of pain
it doesn't exist

it is a memory!
new memories can be created
a new space can be created to hold those new memories you'll create
there will be no void
just a diverging one's attention onto a new focus point

there is a freedom in that
that can be the hightened aspect of it
recognize the patterns
realize it
call it out
name it
give the mirror a role
and play along!

and as i type this
i keep second guessing my life and wonder if all those people were right in telling me that i should be a therapist.

the choice is up to you
just like my career choice will be up to me
i'm good at everything that i do
and i can contribute the same thing in many different ways
because i don't do it through traditional 'therapy'
doesn't mean that i don't realize and practice my gift.

as for the uranus/moon person i talked about
don't know if even reaching out to them would do anything
or if it would do them any good
if they'll even be open to what i have to say

posted October 12, 2011 03:19 PM            

"They can develop an uncompromising attitude in relationships as a way of protecting themselves, deciding on the level of freedom and commitment without discussing things with their partner."
This rings most true to me, but in an opposite sense from "wanting freedom only".

I have Venus in Cancer, and it is crucial for me to feel that I am loved because I myself have strong feelings for the person (always, I don't get involved otherwise), and I can't enter a relationship where I feel my partner is unstable and doesn't care for me much.

I hate seeing any Uranus aspects to personal planets in a loved one's chart. They bother me more than any other aspects. Possessiveness in partners is a quality I'm fine with, and obsessions make me feel secure.

I also have Sun opposite Pluto... Knowing my partner is not emotianlly attached and just wants to "have fun" would make me go berserk. But maybe this is all Saturn in 5th influence, too. Eh.

I hate the idea of too much freedom in relationships, but I never impose on a partner because I don't want to scare him away with my seriousness. I never say anything or reveal the strength of my attachment, but it always bothers me thinking one might just leave any time he wants.

posted October 12, 2011 04:39 PM            

I would definitely say I can be detached. Also, in all of my 30+ years I've had lovers NEVER boyfriends/husbands.

The following is true for me:
"Someone with a Moon-Uranus square may be continually attracted to unreliable types."

"They can throw themselves into destructive relationships which they know, on some level, will not last."

"Their approach to committed relationships varies from restlessness to outright panic.'

"During conversations, the Moon-Uranus person will suddenly switch off: they'll continue to talk, but emotionally they've left the room."

"Their reaction, depending on the rest of their chart, may range from, "No worries, it happens," to, "Right. I'm leaving now".

"Rather than feeling what's happening, they describe the absence of feeling."

"Not belonging makes them uneasy, but being part of something makes them uncomfortable."

"They don't hold grudges: These are the people who remain friends with their exes."

posted October 12, 2011 06:00 PM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
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i have somewhat of a feeling that they'll come back to me;
when they do, i guess we shall see.

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posted October 12, 2011 06:18 PM              

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The Moon in a 90 degree angle to Uranus reflects dissociated emotions and an impersonal, cool and unemotional demeanor.

In the personality:
This is an intensely restless aspect, reflecting an individual who has a hard time staying in one place for long. It does not take well to demands, and has a strong independent streak.

It often reflects early emotional conflicts, and these natives have been treated in a cold manner, perhaps objectified to some degree, and so have learned to dissociate from their emotions so that they are not too sensitive or touchy. As a result they can be difficult to get close to, as they have strong defenses. The negativity of the background seem to be lessened by a 5th house location of the moon, although there is still harsh, cold energies around the child.

On the positive side, this aspect strengthen the personality and allows the person to act without too much interference from his emotions. This aspect usually adds boldness in the character. On the negative side, this aspect can make the person emotionally icy and calculated.

They may have issues with having children in that they don't want to lose their freedom.

The moon's house position is important to get an idea as to how these energies will seek expression.

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Personalities:
OJ Simpson (Pisces Moon)
Evel Knievel (Leo Moon)
Charles Manson (Aquarius Moon)
Salvador Dali (Aries Moon)
Hillary Clinton (Pisces Moon)

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