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Belage
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posted August 02, 2018 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Each time you think about your chart and its limitations, and it's problems, or if you are worrying about a transiting planet affecting you negatively, this is what I suggest: picture your chart exploding into thousand pieces, while the words LOVE, SUCCESS, (whatever you want) coming out of the explosion and surrounding you and entering you.

Transcending chart was something I had been wanting to do for years, and I have finally found the way to do it. It works for me. I have come to realize that, more than the planets, it is our mind and our thinking (through the power given to us by Divine Intelligence) that affect our reality,

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Ami Anne
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posted August 02, 2018 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES, I agree! Hope you are doing well, B!

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Belage
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posted August 02, 2018 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Ami! I am doing very well.

Things are good on all fronts. Career, home, and romance. I am living an amazing journey.

Peace and love to you.

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Empty Spaces
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posted August 03, 2018 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.What do mean by transcending the chart?Mind to explain?

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Radium
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posted August 03, 2018 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@empty spaces

just because you have saturn square sun natally or some difficult aspect or placement doesn't mean you should let it rule your life or let it feel you can't do what you want because the stars simply says you can't

to transcend a chart is to not let the stars rule you but realize there is always good and bad to everything in a chart and it is all relative, the most important thing in life is retain your contentment and spirit, as long as you are sincere to who you are and love your fellow brothers and sisters the world will generally work in your favor ,

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Empty Spaces
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posted August 03, 2018 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree.

I feel uncomfortable about how doomed some astrogers makes people feel.For me if the natal chart isn't meant to help you overcome your issues and grow it doesn't have any other use.

Anyway that's just my opinion I don't think the stars makes you do anything.I see it like a print of the issues you have inside of yourself.It's up to you if you want to overcome it or not.The chart is stagnant,it's a picture you are not.

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Belage
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posted August 08, 2018 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
Interesting.What do mean by transcending the chart?Mind to explain?

I had been an astrologer for decades, and I saw patterns in my life and in the life of others through astrology. I defined myself by the elements in my chart and I also understood others through those elements. He has Venus in Aquarius, that is why he is doing that. We have Saturn square Mars that is why we have this issue. We have Venus and Mars conjunct, that is why we have this amazing sexual chemistry.

The problem for me is that there were areas in my natal chart that were daunting. Saturn square Jupiter. Saturn in 8th house.

Seeking solace, I Went to Vedic astrologer and discovered I had one of the worst chart karma one could have, a durya yoga where nothing in your life is supposed to work. It was like falling through a rabbit hole,

So I had no choice but transcend my chart. I believe we can transcend our chart when we stop giving power to it. We know it's there, but we don't give it power. So for me, whenever my mind is drawn to astrology out of habit because i have done it for decades and viewed things through the lenses of the stars, I picture my chart exploding in thousand pieces and the words I want to give power to: LOVE, SUCCESS, GOOD FORTUNE, HAPPINESS, MONEY IN ABUNDANCE, etc coming out of the explosion.

My chart promised me nothing but doom and gloom. If your chart is wonderful and you love it and see no need to transcend it, that's great. Do you. But for me, I had NO CHOICE but to transcend my chart.

I no longer tell myself, oh, I am Virgo with Venus in Virgo, that is why I like this and that, No. I am a being with unlimited potential. I can embody Venus in Capricorn, or in Aries when the need arises. I am not stuck in my chart. My chart does not rule or define me. Hence the transcendence.

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Belage
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posted August 08, 2018 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why am I posting this in an astrology forum?

Because some people need to hear it. Because I had been looking for a way to transcend my chart for years and I finally found something that works for me. It may not work for everyone. Others may have to find other ways to transcend their chart. If they do, I hope they share it.

Peae, love, good health, success and happiness to all.

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Lalafortunaea
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posted August 08, 2018 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is always free will.

But wishful thinking is not enough.

We must also put in the work for what we want. Visualize + actions + intentions.

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Ayelet
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posted August 08, 2018 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The very purpose of astrology is transcending it. The word "sign" contains sin and g for god.

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Empty Spaces
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posted August 08, 2018 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for explaning.I agree.

I think a lot of people don't give a chance to astrology because it feels like you have no power over your own behaviour.

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Spica
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posted August 08, 2018 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Believing in a negative way about yourself because of your birth chart or transits is really harmful for a person. If you hold negative beliefs because of astrology towards yourself or your life it might be because of anxiety problems or mental OCD. No one needs to worry about transits and chart. The good thing is that modern astrology does not actually reveals fatalistic things, it is more like a guessing game. Most people here only discuss modern astrology. As an astrologer I can tell you that you do not actually know the actual good and bad things about planets, their positions and etc. You only learn that in advanced astrology. So you do not need to worry at all about your bith chart or transits. It’s better for you to use astrology as entertainment and hobby, and not make it into something serious especially if you have anxiety and OCD. In that case stop focusing on it and simply work on making your present better, achieving your goals and believing in yourself. This goes for people who have anxiety regarding any other things. Astrology happens to be something many people with anxiety use to feed their worries and feelings of powerlessness.

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Dreamraven
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posted August 08, 2018 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamraven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
Interesting.What do mean by transcending the chart?Mind to explain?

I believe he means that you aren't bound by the laws of your chart, that in essence they are only a influence that is upon the mind. In other words that with work and effort you can overcome those influences and turn what was limiting into strengths.

I've seen on many occasion astrologer practitioners that look at a natal chart as if set in stone. That there is no way you can get above anything in your chart. The purpose of those influences on each and everyones chart is to drive the individual to develop themselves. For certain some trials are extremely hard, but the harder it is the more rewarding it is once you are able to move past them.

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pocketrocket
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posted August 09, 2018 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocketrocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Belage,
it's a privilege when astrologer with experience write things you did.
I was introduced with concept of chart transcendence and must admit I'm still not at that level of mindset or whatsoever. Also, the ability to transcend - i think it's written somewhere in chart!
I consider chart as potential and guidelines, with our free will involved in terms of some restrictions we have in our charts.
For now, I'm still introducing myself to myself with chart as medium of selfperception. Every aspect must be manifested on low or high lever - depending on person's spiritual growth. Maybe I'm wrong..

You see, I have very challenging chart and I quit dealing with astrology 10 years ago, bc I couldn't handle aspect interepration by others or by myself.Almost two years ago, I started all over again - because I didn't escaped much things. I didn't let my consciousness to grow with astrology aid and to truly understand the problematic patterns.
Now, I'm trying to convert the most problematic parts, with clarity and wise. But, truth to be told - it's not easy to jump out from your own skin and processes or "fool" cosmos
But, I like your way and I will for sure try to at least "soften" things.

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Belage
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posted August 10, 2018 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pocketrocket:
Belage,
it's a privilege when astrologer with experience write things you did.
I was introduced with concept of chart transcendence and must admit I'm still not at that level of mindset or whatsoever. Also, the ability to transcend - i think it's written somewhere in chart!
I consider chart as potential and guidelines, with our free will involved in terms of some restrictions we have in our charts.
For now, I'm still introducing myself to myself with chart as medium of selfperception. Every aspect must be manifested on low or high lever - depending on person's spiritual growth. Maybe I'm wrong..

You see, I have very challenging chart and I quit dealing with astrology 10 years ago, bc I couldn't handle aspect interepration by others or by myself.Almost two years ago, I started all over again - because I didn't escaped much things. I didn't let my consciousness to grow with astrology aid and to truly understand the problematic patterns.
Now, I'm trying to convert the most problematic parts, with clarity and wise. But, truth to be told - it's not easy to jump out from your own skin and processes or "fool" cosmos
But, I like your way and I will for sure try to at least "soften" things.



Thank you so much for your kind feedback.

I think exploring the full potential of your chart is a valid option, as you say, trying to understand the problematic patterns, and convert them with clarity and wisdom.

Wishing you success on this experimental journey, and please do come back to tell us how you are doing and what you are learning.


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Desiring Shadows
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posted August 10, 2018 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be or not to be??
A natural existence based on what is free or to fight and become something greater?
A gentle tug out of the automatic ways

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Lerena
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posted August 10, 2018 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe there is a good side to every placement. I'm not sure I'm able to explain for sure why I have this view, but I believe I have transcended my chart. The method I used is different than what's mentioned here. Actually, the method itself wasn't a conscious method but a process that somehow led to transcending my chart without trying to do that. When it comes to transits, Saturn was a major part of the time period during which this happened. It's a bit of a challenge explaining that one with the reputation Saturn has. Although I began typing up a theory on how Saturn may have helped me transcend my chart, I can't remember if I actually finished typing it before I saved the theory in Notepad. The theory is on my flash drive, but I'm not even sure if it makes sense. From what I remember, it got a bit long.

So far, the main placements I think I have transcended are the aspects Sun square Saturn and Venus square Chiron.

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Belage
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posted August 14, 2018 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lerena:
I believe there is a good side to every placement. I'm not sure I'm able to explain for sure why I have this view, but I believe I have transcended my chart. The method I used is different than what's mentioned here. Actually, the method itself wasn't a conscious method but a process that somehow led to transcending my chart without trying to do that. When it comes to transits, Saturn was a major part of the time period during which this happened. It's a bit of a challenge explaining that one with the reputation Saturn has. Although I began typing up a theory on how Saturn may have helped me transcend my chart, I can't remember if I actually finished typing it before I saved the theory in Notepad. The theory is on my flash drive, but I'm not even sure if it makes sense. From what I remember, it got a bit long.

So far, the main placements I think I have transcended are the aspects Sun square Saturn and Venus square Chiron.


Please elaborate. I would love to hear your point of view and experience. And I think it could help others.

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anonymidarkness
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posted August 15, 2018 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One has to use the chart to go beyond it, there are other ways ofcourse but the one shown in the chart will be the most easiest for the person.

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