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Melinn
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posted August 10, 2018 02:04 PM
  
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Lalafortunaea
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posted August 10, 2018 02:51 PM
Libra is about balance, and often wherever it is in our chart, and how much Libra we've got, means that is where we need to learn and work on balance. The more planets in Libra, the more the individual needs to find balance. Relationships by nature are a balancing act. Once mastered, we move onto the 8th house, and so on, until the last house. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 10, 2018 04:39 PM
Its interesting that Uranus the ruler of friendship is the house before last, bc the 7th is also divorce and open enemies but if you do the divorce thing right you should be able to transition into been friends so you can co-parent the right way.Like the 7th lets say leads to divorce/breakup, if the divorce is ugly, the 8th house will manifest as intense hate and resentment but if you try to come from a place of love the 8th house will help you grow from the loss and help you two transition into a love based on friendship which if kids are involved would lead to an ideal co-parenting situation. Seriously think about it, I personally like to end in good terms with any lover and relationship I am in, I hate the idea of not ending in good terms and leaving this world (12th house) with bad karma when I feel staying "friends" (11th) after it ends (7th, 8th) its the natural course of things truly even though not everyone can do that. IP: Logged |
Lerena
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posted August 10, 2018 09:00 PM
I'm dating a man with Mars in Libra and I think it sometimes manifests as him playing the victim. I think it's because his 3rd-9th axis is intercepted and this axis contains Aries and Libra. Aries doesn't rule his 3rd house, but Pisces does and it seems like the ruler of Aries, Mars, being in Libra manifests as him playing the victim as a result of Pisces ruling his 3rd house and that making him more hypersensitive to how people communicate with him. The only problem is this can be a very exhausting situation. I'm often made the villain when we have a problem and it's not always justified.I haven't met enough Libras so I don't feel like I "know" this sign. quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
Its interesting that Uranus the ruler of friendship is the house before last, bc the 7th is also divorce and open enemies but if you do the divorce thing right you should be able to transition into been friends so you can co-parent the right way.
This is true. I've seen this situation play out with my parents. quote:
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Like the 7th lets say leads to divorce/breakup, if the divorce is ugly, the 8th house will manifest as intense hate and resentment but if you try to come from a place of love the 8th house will help you grow from the loss and help you two transition into a love based on friendship which if kids are involved would lead to an ideal co-parenting situation.
My parents did this. I'm not sure it started out from a place of love, but over time, my parents have been able to work out as friends. In my opinion, my parents get along better as friends than spouses.IP: Logged |
Melinn
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posted August 11, 2018 11:09 AM
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posted August 11, 2018 11:15 AM
I have found a text on internet, about something called "the good guy syndrome", and I got so super excited! Because, in my mind the word LIBRA! started to shine and also the Libra suns, and venus guys I have met so far started to play in my head. ALL the description checks with their personality, I mean, ALL OF EM! I'm not sure if I should start a new thread about it, to see if libras or those who knows libras can look at tha list and tell us if it "checks" out with them? I'm not trying to make libra influenced people feel bad or to bash them or anything, its just curiousity, to know them and understand them better^^ Or I just post it here? IP: Logged |
Lalafortunaea
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posted August 11, 2018 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Melinn:
I have found a text on internet, about something called "the good guy syndrome", and I got so super excited! Because, in my mind the word LIBRA! started to shine and also the Libra suns, and venus guys I have met so far started to play in my head. ALL the description checks with their personality, I mean, ALL OF EM! I'm not sure if I should start a new thread about it, to see if libras or those who knows libras can look at tha list and tell us if it "checks" out with them? I'm not trying to make libra influenced people feel bad or to bash them or anything, its just curiousity, to know them and understand them better^^ Or I just post it here?
I personally am not bothered when anyone digs up shizzle on my signs, as we can't all be rainbows and sunshine. If it applies, it does, if it doesn't, who cares. But some Libras might think it's mean and unfair lol I don't mind seeing it here but it's Hypa's call IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 11, 2018 01:11 PM
I don't mind if you post it here either Melinn  but is up to you, whatever you prefer.IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted August 11, 2018 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by Melinn:
I have found a text on internet, about something called "the good guy syndrome", and I got so super excited! Because, in my mind the word LIBRA! started to shine and also the Libra suns, and venus guys I have met so far started to play in my head. ALL the description checks with their personality, I mean, ALL OF EM! I'm not sure if I should start a new thread about it, to see if libras or those who knows libras can look at tha list and tell us if it "checks" out with them? I'm not trying to make libra influenced people feel bad or to bash them or anything, its just curiousity, to know them and understand them better^^ Or I just post it here?
I'm curious. But if it's what I think it is, please examine how often it's done by those who are not Libra (particularly among those NOT Libra you personally know), as my understanding is that it's very commonly done, in part to avoid burning bridges or even lawsuits (though it can hilariously backfire). Of course it would make sense that a certain type of Libra (with specific other placements combined) would have this, but if the bulk of those who had it were Libra Sun (or other Libra placement) then I'd be surprised. (Again, if we're talking about the same Good Guy Syndrome.) Furthermore, would you think it applies to say Simon Cowell, Margaret Thatcher, Vladimir Putin, Aleister Crowley, Friedrich Nietzsche, Judith Sheindlin ("Judge Judy"), and Eminem? (These are just a few examples that the "Good Guy Syndrome" I'm thinking of does not seem to afflict, I could add plenty more). In other words, please make sure it's not selective vision so that many Libras are ignored, and many who are not Libras also ignored, to come up with a false conclusion as too much of that drives many people away from astrology. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted August 11, 2018 10:15 PM
Though I will add I knew one Libra who gave people she didn't like impossible choices or goals. Whether they accomplished what she told them to or not, it justified whatever horrible thing she wanted to do to them from the very start (and nothing "good guy" about it, she just gaslighted you and made you feel like you deserved whatever horrible thing she did to you, what she had in mind from the start). But I know more grouchy and straightforward Libras than that one exception who specialized in head games (she's the Scorpio-heavy Libra). Life experience can make a difference as well. I know one straightforward Libra who didn't dress at all like a Libra, but after I pointed it out--he was one of those getting me into astrology--I found out he USED to before it was beaten out of him as a kid by his family for being effeminate. You'd never guess he was a Libra today (nor does he have the "good guy syndrome" as I understand the term), and seeing him so clean cut and almost preppy in how he looked as a kid is a contrast to how he kinda looks scary today (and kids have hid behind parents, and an elderly woman locked her door as he walked by). It actually annoyed him how many women flocked to him thinking he'd smack them around, and he sometimes rejected them quite rudely (though he had a semi-open relationship with a Taurus woman that I attribute more to his Cap Mars as well as Virgo Venus, but that's another topic). IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 12, 2018 10:39 PM
Pixie I hear you, I know a Libra who is wild and enjoys been rude on purpose, almost like he wants to rebel against his own nature and enjoys getting a rise out of people. He has SUN TRINE URANUS with moon in Scorpio. He is nice to me though bc he likes me.I feel I come across a lot of intense libras who are not afraid to be confrontational and speak their mind and those libras have scorpio placements, they don't care if they "hurt" your feelings at all. Like the girl version of the guy I just mentioned above, she is a Libra with venus in scorpio and Mars square Pluto, intense AF. I can handle their strong personality. I think after been with a libra guy for 11 years who has mars conjunct uranus in scorpio on the DC I have developed a high tolerance for that type of intensity and behavior and usually remain calm. I think also bc my chart ruler is Jupiter conjunct Uranus is hard to "shock" me and if anything people like that I get, I see myself in them a little, is just that they are WAY more self-destructive than me, I am a closet functional thrill seeker.
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capricorncheriscty
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posted August 12, 2018 10:56 PM
I think all the cardinal signs do this but mostly Libras and Cancers. Especially those with the ASC in Libra and then the MC in Cancer. The whiniest I've ever met! I read somewhere that it stems from the Cancers having the victim complex and with Libras it stems from them being so 50/50 about everything, even themselves, that they can't even see their own flaws at times and instead blame their problems on others. They see half of a situation and not the full situation even though they try to. EDIT: I've met lots of Libras and I think they victimize themselves more than any Pisces I've met. Frankly speaking, I think many Pisces are actual victims because they are so gullible and get caught up in wild things they can't control. But Libras, when I hear their problems, I think of that one saying about "poor little rich girl living in a big little rich world" or something like that. I think when the sign finally transcends into Scorpio is when it gets worse, aka a person who has both Libra and Scorpio placements. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 12, 2018 11:17 PM
Thanks capricorncheriscty!!I feel Capricorns rarely whine, overall they tend to be stoic and just tough it out and don't complaint. Cancers fight for what they want but interesting observation that libra has MC in cancer! bc some astrologers feel that sun signs carry to some extent that energy of the house system of their rising sign. Libras I feel tend to get stuck and I feel for them bc they have a lot of potential and strengths and charm but yes they are their own worst enemy and like you said this issue is a lot more of an issue with that libra/scorpio mix. IP: Logged |
Melinn
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posted August 13, 2018 06:35 AM
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posted August 13, 2018 06:41 AM
The reason I even surfed the net for "nice guy sendrom", was bc of my guy, who was super accomadating and kind, and when we started to work dailyy together, he started to show more different sides of him. Granted its bc of his natal but also our synastry together etc.However, he turned out to be a passive agressive person. H e never says things outright directly. And when I point that out he gets, passive agressive. Also he snapped at me, in my eys, out of no where bc of some things that seem to have bothered him, but he would never say what it was. I think he even did not know himself he was reacting to stuff he had pressed away deep inside of him. He was under pressure and stress about it and, he snapped. Nothing serious, but since he is "such a nice guy" it really was a shock. Anyways, he also has Mars-Neptune conjunction. He never expresses anger in a normal way. He just gets silent and passive. IP: Logged |
Melinn
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posted August 13, 2018 06:45 AM
Nice Guys avoid conflict. (LIBRA: PASSIVE?)Nice Guys hold contempt for women. Nice Guys have difficulty making their needs a priority. Nice Guys lack conviction in their opinions or beliefs. Typically they will wait and see what the popular opinion is before taking a stand. If a rift happens in the group they will wait to see who is winning before taking a side. (LIBRA: PASSIVE?) Nice Guys lack loyalty.They develop a chameleon like type of behavior when interacting with others. If one member of a group doesn’t like another the nice guy will take on the belief of whoever they around. One day they will talk badly of one member and the next they will reverse their opinion.
(LIBRA: PASSIVE?) Maybe libra mars tactics?. They may call this Diplomacy) Nice Guys are dishonest. They hide their mistakes and say what they think people want to hear. They will say pretty much anything to gain the approval of others. Nice Guys are secretive. They are so driven to seek approval that they will hide anything they believe might upset anyone.
(LIBRA: PASSIVE?) Nice Guys are manipulative. They have a hard time making their needs a priority and have difficulty asking for what they want clearly, so they feel powerless and result to manipulation.
(LIBRA: PASSIVE?) also: Diplomacy
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nice Guys are controlling in order to keep their world smooth. Nice Guys give to get and expect some kind of reciprocation. Nice Guys are passive-aggressive.
(Hell yeah!) Nice Guys are full of rage, a rage that tends to erupt at some of the most unexpected and seemingly inappropriate times. (This happened with my Libra Venus guy)
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Melinn
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posted August 13, 2018 06:48 AM
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posted August 13, 2018 06:50 AM
And this ----------------Nice Guys have difficulty setting boundaries, and instead feel like victims. (This is the answer to why you feel Libras plays the victim I believe! They don't set up boundries, they feel they have no integrity,and they know its their own fault and they express it like this or with passiv agressiveness. And this may be why my libra venus guy is so attracted to my venus in aries, he lacks the personality traits he himslef really wanna have and master. But at the same time, he resents my unapolagetic forwardnes. ANd I resent his indirect diplomatic manners haha. Its hate-love in a nutshell^^ (link for the list:http://attractioninstitute.com/recovering-from-being-a-nice-guy/) Ps.Sorry for any misspellings! I got no time to re-edit stuff (sorry not sorry haha!)
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Lalafortunaea
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posted August 13, 2018 08:14 AM
^Those traits apply to most Libras I know - even the women. The "nice girls" who aren't really. Some of you might enjoy reading "The White Knight Syndrome" - it's essentially about the nice guy. It tells, in a straightforward, yet soft way, that people obsessed with being nice guys/white knights are actually quite selfishly driven, don't exactly care about others, and has a lot of case studies. And it helps explain what we can do to come from a more sincere place. I don't know if anyone else has noticed this with Libras, but beside the whining, their arguments for the sake of "balancing things out" (according to them), are kinda... Odd. Like if you say "I hate pears because they're so grainy and they hurt my gums." Then an extremist Libra will come along and be like "WHOA HOLD UP! If you're gonna complain about pears being grainy, let's talk about ALL GRAINY FRUITS." In their mind I guess that's balance. And maybe for them, that's what they need, but doesn't mean everyone else needs it, and in no way means anyone else needs their version of balance Oo I can get how talking about similarities in other things can be useful, but that sort of extremism boggles me. You could create a thread for example saying "I think Leos have these poopoo traits!" and so long as the Libra is the one answering they'll be like "OOOH u wanna dig up dirt on Leo huh? Why ain't you making a thread about every other sign's poopoo??" Doya see how maddening that can get? I kind of think, if a Libra is like that, to an extreme, instead of wanting others to conform to their world views, they should want to learn to balance themselves. Think of it this way. Pisces are sensitive to everyone's moods, and so naturally, some that are less experienced will almost want to control other people and want them to be happy, be well, be positive, otherwise Pisces'll feel it and hurt too. But the trick is not to make everyone change for you and make reality reflect your perfect vision. We've gotta go within and work on ourselves. Look within, not without, for balance. IP: Logged |
Lerena
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posted August 13, 2018 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by Melinn:
I'm unsure if I should start a whole new thread about it but well I post it here, and you guys can be the judge^^.
My boyfriend does some of the "nice guy" stuff. He doesn't claim to be a nice guy. Actually, he says the opposite, but he's very passive aggressive and getting direct communication from him is nearly impossible. When I told him I need direct, straightforward communication, he told me that he shouldn't have to "baby" me. Oh, but he says that communication in a relationship is important as well. He's a bit difficult to talk to at times. I know that Mars in Libra is not the strongest placement for Mars, but every time he gets passive aggressive, I get annoyed and irritated and sometimes very angry.However, when it comes to the "nice guy" stuff, I don't think it applies to just Libra-influenced people. Regardless, it would probably be most common with Libras and anyone with Libra placements. quote:
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I feel Capricorns rarely whine, overall they tend to be stoic and just tough it out and don't complaint.
Most of the time anyway. Some Capricorns actually do complain a lot. Granted, I have yet to meet another Capricorn that complains nearly as much as my dad. My dad is a confirmed Sun in Capricorn. He was not born on a day when the Sun changes signs. His Sun in Capricorn is at 23 degrees.My dad has 3 personal planets in Capricorn: his Sun, Mercury, and Venus. He is an exceptionally rare Capricorn and you would never pinpoint him as a Capricorn, mainly because he complains more often than any other Capricorn I've ever met. His constant complaining has even gotten on my nerves and it's not exactly rare for me to complain about something. It's pretty common actually. On the other hand, my dad's chart is rare in general too. My dad has 7 confirmed planets in Earth signs and 8 if his Moon is in Taurus instead of Gemini. Of those 7 confirmed planets, 4 of them are personal planets and his Moon could be in Taurus, meaning he potentially has all 5 personal planets in an Earth sign. Based on what I can tell about his chart, my dad is heavily influenced by his planets in Virgo, which leads him to be very, very critical and complain - a lot. Mars in Virgo aspects his Sun, Mercury, and Venus. If my dad has Moon in Taurus, Mars in Virgo also aspects his Moon. I have no way of confirming my dad's birth time. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 13, 2018 01:54 PM
I am pretty confident that your dad has Moon in Gemini bc if he had it in Taurus he would not verbalize his complaining and would just internalize it. Add that if he has moon in gemini maybe that is the only planet he has in an air sign which might manifest as him having a restless mind and worrying too much. Taurus is more grounding.But then again you are saying he has lots of virgo so I don't know but my dad has sun in capricorn and moon in virgo conjunct saturn and he never ever complains about anything ever, probably bc of that conjunction to saturn though. My brother has sun in Capricorn with moon in Taurus conjunct Mars and he internalizes everything, you would never guess he has anxiety. He does not complaint. I believe he has cancer rising which would explain why he is in his 40s and still lives with my parents and never moved out. Saturn rules his DC and he has Saturn in Cancer in the 12th conjunct southnode. He has a non existent love life that manifests more as been "married" to my mom, perhaps he is unable to let go of my mom bc he has an unconscious deep commitment to her (southnode, 12th house). Add his Saturn is Retro! Ouch talk about Mom Karma. I imagine bc this is in his 12th is hard for him to work through it. IP: Logged |
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posted August 13, 2018 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
I don't know if anyone else has noticed this with Libras, but beside the whining, their arguments for the sake of "balancing things out" (according to them), are kinda... Odd. Like if you say "I hate pears because they're so grainy and they hurt my gums." Then an extremist Libra will come along and be like "WHOA HOLD UP! If you're gonna complain about pears being grainy, let's talk about ALL GRAINY FRUITS."
hahahahahahahhahahah my eyes got a little wet from laughing. OMG YOU are freaking awesome!!!!!!!! I think I love you. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 13, 2018 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
You could create a thread for example saying "I think Leos have these poopoo traits!" and so long as the Libra is the one answering they'll be like "OOOH u wanna dig up dirt on Leo huh? Why ain't you making a thread about every other sign's poopoo??" Doya see how maddening that can get? I kind of think, if a Libra is like that, to an extreme, instead of wanting others to conform to their world views, they should want to learn to balance themselves.
hahaha I can be like that, perhaps is my pluto in libra or is it my MC in Libra?. quote:
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Think of it this way. Pisces are sensitive to everyone's moods, and so naturally, some that are less experienced will almost want to control other people and want them to be happy, be well, be positive, otherwise Pisces'll feel it and hurt too. But the trick is not to make everyone change for you and make reality reflect your perfect vision. We've gotta go within and work on ourselves.
 My moon in Pisces and sun and moon square neptune likes your insight! Deep IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted August 13, 2018 02:40 PM
It just occurred to me that yes Capricorns can be complainers but they don't whine and they are usually right, when they complain is not to play the role of the victim, usually when they complain if they do is bc people are sucking at doing their jobs and not ADULTING and Capricorn will hold you accountable and file a complaint or talk to your supervisor. So yes you guys are right but their complaining is a different kind of complaining and my sun in virgo conjunct MC gets them all though I avoid getting people in trouble but I shouldn't bc some people REALLY need to be held accountable. Don't get me wrong I feel I can still learn A LOT from Capricorns about ADULTING personally, too much sag and leo in my chart that just wants to have fun. Like RIGHT now, let me get back to work.IP: Logged |
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posted August 13, 2018 03:22 PM
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hahahahahahahhahahah my eyes got a little wet from laughing.OMG YOU are freaking awesome!!!!!!!! I think I love you.
LOL <3 you're sweet xD <3 IDK why It's funny but I'm glad I made you laugh 
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