posted August 08, 2018 09:07 PM            

I feel they get easily overwhelmed which leads to anxiety bc they always want to work as a team for everything and end up throwing a pitty party often bc they feel alone and like everything is falling on their shoulders but in a weird way I think they create up to a point the situation they complaint about, either they become overly dependent on their partner or they let others become overly dependent on them bc they cannot give up control and everything must be done their way OR they don't like roles been divided bc everything must be done in a team effort so they are chronically unhappy and complaining.

Not trying to offend anybody, I strangely get along super well with libras but I am starting to resent them bc I do think they play the role of the victim a lot and there is always an excuse of why this or that won't work etc.....

posted August 08, 2018 10:12 PM            

Well... Maybe a teensy bit emotionally; I can't help it that my Scorpio wife gets me and that everyone else looks like to total loser when compared to her .

As for working in a professional environment. Playing the victim? Never. If anything, the very idea totally sickens me. As for deligating work amoung the peers; Well, unfortunately, there is a reason why the "my way or the highway" applies true to my line of work and I have to be very strict about the fact that procedures are being followed .

Long story short; I work in a Business / Engineering related field (more specifically, the R&D Section) and our clients are very... Picky (and rightfully so!)

But I have had a good team over the years. There were a few bad apples here and there but they were dispassionately eliminated out of the team.

A good leader knows when to be a boss and when to be a team player. At the end of the day, results matter and through those results, you have personal growth .

I kinda find it funny that other signs can't seem to make up their minds about the emotional state of Libras out there.

I mean, are we emotionally dependant or are we too detached? Make up your minds already Lol!

posted August 09, 2018 07:03 AM            

Not to be confused with venting, b****ing or feeling really down.

Libras have this whine that reminds me of a 10 year old complaining about how life isn't fair.

That kind of whine really grates because it screams of small mindedness, self-centeredness and entitlement.

You could have a room full of people with a terminal illness - put a Libra in their midst and they'll begin to whine and create a ruckus about how they have a headache and how it's not fair because of x, y, z...

Tell a Libra about their behavior and then they'll whine some more. "What ur saying isn't true it's not fair!!" (A slightly more diplomatic Libra may attempt to sound less childish but their use of speech hides their whine)

posted August 09, 2018 11:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Ahh, the Notorious Libra Whine. I can always spot Libra in someone's chart by the way they whine, and how much they whine. They even have a whiny pitch to their voice.

Not to be confused with venting, b****ing or feeling really down.

Libras have this whine that reminds me of a 10 year old complaining about how life isn't fair.

That kind of whine really grates because it screams of small mindedness, self-centeredness and entitlement.

You could have a room full of people with a terminal illness - put a Libra in their midst and they'll begin to whine and create a ruckus about how they have a headache and how it's not fair because of x, y, z...

Tell a Libra about their behavior and then they'll whine some more. "What ur saying isn't true it's not fair!!" (A slightly more diplomatic Libra may attempt to sound less childish but their use of speech hides their whine)

And round and around we go.

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LMFAO You made my day, you totally know what I am talking about.

posted August 09, 2018 11:07 AM            

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Originally posted by FireVirgo:
I can only speak for the Libra I know best, which is my mother. She has a 6-planet Libra stellium and ALL personal planets Sun-Mars in Libra! (I do not know her ASC.) Anyway, she's in her 70's and still complains daily of the all the wrong-doings either her parents (who are long dead & gone) or ex-husbands have layed-upon her. She is forever the victim and will literally never get past anything (when it comes to these personal relationships), no matter how much she talks it out. It's exhausting.

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posted August 09, 2018 11:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Xodian:

I mean, are we emotionally dependant or are we too detached? Make up your minds already Lol!

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hahahaha BOTH at the same time, I dont know how you pull that off but is true

posted August 09, 2018 12:20 PM            

But they do have some good rappers lol Lil Wayne, Eminem, Snoop, Will Smith, T.I

posted August 09, 2018 12:22 PM            

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I mean, are we emotionally dependant or are we too detached? Make up your minds already Lol!

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posted August 09, 2018 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by mercuryflow:
I have never found a libra to be too detached, but rather the opposite. What initially attracts me to them is the airy quality of their mind. They are able to detach emotion from thought. Which definitely makes the attachment/overdependent issues strange, because they don't necessarily stem from an emotional base, different from say a cancer being attached.

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Yes exactly! it is a strange phenomenon lol..

posted August 09, 2018 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
hmm no non of the libra influenced ones I have met does act like this, whining though that is something geminis are masters at lol.

The scenarious mentioned here does feel alien to me but maybe if you guys could describe the energy you feel?

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posted August 09, 2018 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I did not describe the energy but I described the behavioral pattern I am noticing....this is not something you catch on right away about them.....it takes time, like you have to get to know a lot of libras at a very deep level to start realizing this about them bc they are so airy and charming and seem grounded and in a good mood unless they let you in their internal world which libras don't typically do that unless they really trust you, I have been involved with one for 11 years and as a therapist I have treated a lot of libras and they trust me and let me in and it took me a while to start noticing this pattern and like I said I struggle with them bc I do adore them, they are so cute and charming, venus is their ruler after all.

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Yes thats true, I have not meat enough libras and also I lack libra energy, I only have south node in libra 2th house.

The closest I have came a libra is my libra venus guy, and yes they seem to not let you in too close. If we didn't have Ic moon and 8th house moon action I think he wouldn't open up even an inch for me.

And yes when I think about it, there is some patterns I saw when he, I and an other guy worked as a team on somethings during winter and spring. I'm not sure what it was though its hard to entangle thise stuff for me :/.

He has Leo sun and mercury. Aries moon, so much fire and cardinal signs, yet, he seem to never wanna be a leader. He wanted teamwork and he always pointed out "I'm fine with whatever you decide, I'm adaptable that way".

But I remember when he and I was to get lunch and he never was satisfied with the table I choose and made us move several times and was moody as hell about it haha. But on the other hand he was mad at me for something so it may be it lol.

Otherwise he is always like "where should we sit? Do we wanna sit there? Or here, or no here?.. what do you think?". Drives me crazy! Its so damn charming but, just be a Leo and lead for gods sake!

I try to let guys lead in those situations, let them be the man etc.

I'm sure there is more situations connected to the libra in him if I digg in some more, but for now I'm too blinded :/

posted August 09, 2018 03:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
Yes thats true, I have not meat enough libras and also I lack libra energy, I only have south node in libra 2th house.

The closest I have came a libra is my libra venus guy, and yes they seem to not let you in too close. If we didn't have Ic moon and 8th house moon action I think he wouldn't open up even an inch for me.

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Libra venus is another story though, its at home in venus so I love that placement now sun in libra is not a strong placement I feel although is a cardinal sign so there is that.

I think bc I have pluto in libra they tend to open up to me but southnode in libra that is definitely significant! Your southnode are qualities very strongly ingrained in you and everyone here keeps thinking you are adorable, libras have this adorable thing going, I think is your southnode in libra girl!

posted August 09, 2018 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Libra riser here. My fire sun prohibits me from pulling the victim card, its like the other person feels I'm too strong to play the victim lol

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posted August 09, 2018 10:03 PM            

I don't know of any who play the victim (unless you count the Scorpio heavy one who I think had a personality disorder in defining people as angels or demons, the latter to justify terrible behavior towards them, which isn't exactly the same thing as playing the victim since she was more vengeful than manipulative or self-pitying). Though on this I should point out that playing the victim is about what everybody does (so don't pretend otherwise), at least if they're middle class or higher, as they operate under the belief it gets them something--at least if Oprah would give you a hug over it, then yes, though there are still other types of victimization that people won't talk about. (And many who gripe about special snowflakes are special snowflakes themselves just as easily offended and triggered.) Most of the Libras I knew well (whether I liked them or not) came from the lower classes which meant playing the victim was generally not a good idea as it invited others to make a victim of you rather than garnering sympathy. (That said, Libras from higher classes that I'm aware of don't seem inclined to do so, or tolerate others doing so, probably being seen as insensitive that way.)

Wait, there is one online Libra that I think has a major victim complex, though I think she has some significant Scorpio (I forget the details). But thinking of one exception out of many doesn't cut it, however. Perhaps she runs in the same kinds of crowds as others here who would observe Libra being that way.

Of course variance will be found. One Libra I knew but didn't get along well with was born on the same day (and same hospital) as me, but hours later. My 5H Sag stellium was her 12H Sag stellium, and this probably had the most to do why she took an instant dislike to me. I think astrologers would've been as shocked as we were to learn we were born on the same day and same hospital given how radically different our vibe was. I suspect that she felt I got good grades and some other good things (she probably felt I was more popular than I was, and that she was less popular than she was) without earning it the way she felt she worked hard to get, but I wouldn't go so far as to say she played the victim. She treated me with cold contempt and promoting "proper" behavior that others should also care about like herself, not whining about how it's not fair like Anakin Skywalker. (But even the upper classes of Texas tends to have a low tolerance for whiners or feeling sorry for yourself, at least back then, so maybe that made a difference.)

That said, I don't think I've ever met a Libra impressed with cookie cutter "wisdom" so feel good "stay positive and it will work out fine" won't fly with them, and I can see why some would think we were victims because we refused to stay positive for the sake of being positive. But then many aren't impressed. I'm remembering a counselor that me and a former girlfriend (Aries deluxe) went to, and he spouted so much simple minded drivel that he probably picked up from some new age or counselor's workshop, though in a way it did work as we bonded in making fun of him and his "wisdom." I'm sure he'd write us off as negative, though we didn't give up (and one reason I gave astrology such a benefit of a doubt is because I dragged her to an astrologer that she didn't believe in and her statements actually made sense, and impressed my unbelieving partner, though in that case the astrologer counselor correctly told us that it probably wouldn't work out between us in the end).

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Btw, here are some famous Libras. I don't know all of them, but of those I do know, none play the victim, not even those who had it hard. (Even Bonnie Parker didn't, though that's another example of someone who came from a background where playing the victim only gets you contempt instead of sympathy, and thus was more interested in revenge, as well as standing beside her man. She was also a poet, btw.) Anne Rice was one of many who experienced great tragedies, and I don't ever recall even her playing the victim, and became irate as an interviewer tried to get her to cry over her dead child for the ratings.

http://www.onthisday.com/people/star-sign/libra

Oh wow, I didn't know Simon Cowell was a Libra!

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I mean, are we emotionally dependant or are we too detached? Make up your minds already Lol!

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posted August 10, 2018 01:10 PM            

My grandma has Alzheimer’s she’s a leo and she can say really hurtful things. She sometimes hits me or screams at me because her brain isn’t there. she’s over dramatic.