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Desiring Shadows
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posted September 07, 2018 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you respect authority and structure when your main trait is to rebel against it?
That’s what the nature of Saturn aquarius is about.
Thoughts?

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mirage29
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posted September 07, 2018 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad was in the military, his whole career.
He had a partile SUN-Jupiter in early Scorpio (add a late Venus Libra to that conjunction), with Mercury Scorpio square his Saturn Aquarius.

To me, my dad always seemed so controlled. He held back A LOT. Without his knowing astrology, he used to say that he doesn't mad-- he gets 'even'... {scorpio}

He had severe challenges with (especially) this one boss he had. The man was a jerk. He was {unkindly speaking} a completely incompetent a'hole.

For the longest time, I pained for him when he'd come home every single night, constantly smoldering and expressing open anger and tight-frustration about this guy, his immediate boss in the military. My dad came really near to quitting his job and the military, at one point, because of him -- but my dad had perseverance {Aquarius Fixed energies Scorpio Fixed energies}, stayed with it, until much later when that man lost some of his clout, becoming inert.
.. Instead, my father steadily applied himself, doing what he knew would help the other guys on the team be more efficient. Took a very very long time.. but he 'proved' himself (for his team) to the over-bosses!!, who would quietly exert their influence on 'charm-school dude'-- {equivalent to character Major Frank Burns, on M.A.S.H. TV series??}.

Now.... when I got older, I met this boss out in the social community. I was involved with a one-act-play drama league. He got a minor part in it.
.. I watched in surprise how others were reacting to HIM-- not nicely at all, and even openly TO his face! As 'mighty' as he was 'by position' at work, he drew zero respect from the people involved in this group.

My dad had a PROFOUND and unquestioned respect for the position of "Authority" itself. He openly 'modeled' (in front of his kids) "how" you need to think and act towards them-- whether it was fair or not!

{{-- which really used to gripe me at the time.}}

He was able to detach-himself 'too much' for personal things where he needed to apply his personal direct responsibility in, among relationships at home. {but that is my limited perceptions, of the dynamics of his marriage to my mother, which really was between him and her privately?}

For his family in general, he was a VERY VERY hardworking and honest man. Great work ethic. He "provided" for our family of 6, as the sole breadwinner-- sometimes taking on the weights of extra side-jobs to make sure bills got paid.

He kept 'religion' private-- not liking to speak of it out loud. He had a strange guilt about receiving Holy Communion 'in his hands' because they were rough and stained from the kinds of work he did, vocationally as a mechanic, and with him having an avocation as a furniture maker.
.. NO one could change his 'fixed idea' about that. Very rigid with his belief-system notions. And, it's hard to tell the difference between what was Scorpio and his Aquarius placement. .. except they are BOTH 'fixed' signs.

He was a highly-regarded man in the community at-large. He passed away a decade ago. We had been estranged for a few decades. I loved and admired him very much, and Honor his incarnation--.


I hope this helps?

He had High Ideals, and he tried to walk and LIVE what he Believed-- doing it The Best he knew how.

Don't so much be frustrated and stopped, …
but meet every challenge by Rising Higher, step-wise, to every occasion.

In your Relationships??? ..
Ha! Let it make you Better!

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted September 07, 2018 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
How do you respect authority and structure when your main trait is to rebel against it?
That’s what the nature of Saturn aquarius is about.

what an interesting perspective on this placement


that is how I exactly feel

I respect authority and law, because I believe they bring order

but fundamentally I am against all governmental, educational, etc structures

that's somewhat of a paradox actually, but I have found the best way to deal with is to follow the current of the society and not try to fight or oppose it

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Lerena
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posted September 07, 2018 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn in Aquarius in 3rd house.

My solution is to oppose but respect authority and structure by doing what I do best: I speak English. I collect as much information as possible and I explain in a calm, rational fashion why I disagree with each relevant decision made by someone in a position of influence and authority. In doing so, although I am not agreeing with them, I'm explaining my position without screaming at them that they're trying to ruin my life and I show them examples and concrete evidence that explain my reasoning.

The only problem is I can't take this approach with the government since I'm basically just a citizen and I have no legal options for being able to get their direct attention and all my available legal options would likely place a character limit on my explanations if not outright dismiss whatever I say.

To clarify, the point I'm making is I just use effective communication skills and written language to oppose anything I disagree with and I do so in a way that still takes into account the person I'm disagreeing with and their position of power. Unfortunately, this only works with certain people of authority, not the people of authority I'd most want to speak to.

Actually, my preferred approach is pretty useless. For the most part, it does get the point across that my opposition to authority and structures is not about disrespect, just not being in agreement with certain decisions.

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Randall
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posted September 12, 2018 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can rebel against something and still respect it.

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Randall
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posted September 18, 2018 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I rebel against a lot of things--even at law school.

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