posted September 27, 2018 01:39 AM            

You have to remember that 8th house is ruled by investigative and obsessive Pluto(with some energy reserves from the traditional ruler Mars).

So people with strong 8th house placements want to get to the "heart" of the matter. As they do away with fluff.

So the study of the mind involves removing and doing away with a LOT of misconceptions before getting to the truth.

In order to study mental illness. One has to be a little crazy themselves. Because we always invest energy into figuring out that which we are also struggling with.

So only a mentally "ill" person will be able to get to the crux of the matter. Or make headway or breakthroughs in that study mind you.

And since Sun in 8th dabble on the mentally insane side. A resounding YES to your question.

posted September 27, 2018 07:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Because the mind houses many secrets that involve digging,digging,digging. Yes.

You have to remember that 8th house is ruled by investigative and obsessive Pluto(with some energy reserves from the traditional ruler Mars).

So people with strong 8th house placements want to get to the "heart" of the matter. As they do away with fluff.

So the study of the mind involves removing and doing away with a LOT of misconceptions before getting to the truth.

In order to study mental illness. One has to be a little crazy themselves. Because we always invest energy into figuring out that which we are also struggling with.

So only a mentally "ill" person will be able to get to the crux of the matter. Or make headway or breakthroughs in that study mind you.

And since Sun in 8th dabble on the mentally insane side. A resounding YES to your question.

Also recall that Uranus (planet of mental illness) finds its accidental exaltation by house in House 8.

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posted September 27, 2018 09:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Morrigan:
-- I misunderstood the question..
Yes, of course 8th house is great for mental health professionals!

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posted September 27, 2018 09:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Merc-Jup-Venus-North node in 8th packs quite a punch.

I would reckon you qualify as an 8th house person. Venus there especially points to enjoyment or an attraction to investigation (8th).

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posted October 04, 2018 09:23 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I would like to help people who have mental issues in regards to coping.
Maybe an abuse, rape or rehabilitation counselor. Someone who helps women who have suffered from some kind of crisis. I've noticed that a lot of the people that I am involved with (friends,associates, etc). Have been diagnosised with some kind of mental illness or portray the traits of someone who could suffer from mental illness or are eccentric or are odd in some way. When I say help people who have mental issues in regards to coping. I mean being there for them when they need someone to talk to.

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Keep in mind though that it is the one who is INSIDE the boat who can pull others who are drowning to safety.

So that means that YOU will have to remain in the boat, dry and the anchor.

It is so easy when playing this role to progressively divert to the mentality of the person you are trying to "save". Be careful.

As when you are listening, consoling and empathizing with their illness,you may invariably " take on" the energy.

So that means you can easily start to see the world from their point of view. And if you don't remain centred in the faith that illness is temporary, you may also start to have a cynical outlook.

I don't mean to be indelicate. I briefly worked at a suicide hotline and it was exhausting.

People have built-in momentum to thought patterns(in the case of suicide) that are hard for them to let go of.

So they call a helpline because essentially they are asking to live. But as you work with them, one realizes that they are not ready to choose life.

And that is mostly due to the attachment to the past body hurt/thoughts that they do not want to "dishonor" by moving on.

But as you encourage them that the bigger choice allows for both:honoring the past body hurt is moving on. Because it HEALS it. They still don't internalize it.

Just don't get lost. Like I did. Be careful of absorbing all of that. I was always so sad working there I didn't feel like I was "helping" anyone.

posted October 04, 2018 09:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Deltahydrus:
I was so excited to see this post! I am fascinated by what Aries23degrees said about Uranus's relationship with the 8th house. My Aqua Sun is in the 8th house and trine my Scorpio Pluto in my 5th as well as sextile my Sag Uranus in my 6th house. I am currently finishing my Masters in Clinical Psychology to become a Sex/Marriage/Relationship Therapist. I've always felt a strong pull to mental/sexual trauma.

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Uranus provides "lightning bolt" insight that is not always academically available.

So it is advantageous to have Uranus there in order to be able to look at things from varying angles, inside-out,rightside up, left side right etc.

Mentally ill patients (contrary to popular belief) are actually some of the most BRILLIANT people you will get.

The illness is exactly that:There is too much charge, too much energy in the mental plane that it becomes congested.

So as their "helper", you need to be one step ahead. You need to know when they are faking emotions(because they can), when they are regaling you with a made up childhood story(garnished with tears)- because they can.

With some, you will be playing mental chess. So you need to be on the ball. And Uranus in 8th helps to get clarity and getting a "one up" on seemingly complex subjects.

Most people have got a weird idea of mentally ill people. Because they see "externally" apparent cases of people talking to themselves, beating their head on the walls, tying their hair obsessively etc. But this is a largely one sided and often stereotyped view of what mental illness is.

Many mentally ill people(or those prone to it) are Doctors, Professors,housewives, actors,Lawyers,CEO'S of companies etc. People from ALL walks of life.

Its not only the homeless people with ragged clothes looking up at the sky and muttering something incomprehensible that are the majority of those who are mentally ill.

Sorry for ramble. Its just that mental illness has such a stigma to it. Drives me nuts!!

posted October 04, 2018 10:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Uranus provides "lightning bolt" insight that is not always academically available.

So it is advantageous to have Uranus there in order to be able to look at things from varying angles, inside-out,rightside up, left side right etc.

Mentally ill patients (contrary to popular belief) are actually some of the most BRILLIANT people you will get.

The illness is exactly that:There is too much charge, too much energy in the mental plane that it becomes congested.

So as their "helper", you need to be one step ahead. You need to know when they are faking emotions(because they can), when they are regaling you with a made up childhood story(garnished with tears)- because they can.

With some, you will be playing mental chess. So you need to be on the ball. And Uranus in 8th helps to get clarity and getting a "one up" on seemingly complex subjects.

Most people have got a weird idea of mentally ill people. Because they see "externally" apparent cases of people talking to themselves, beating their head on the walls, tying their hair obsessively etc. But this is a largely one sided and often stereotyped view of what mental illness is.

Many mentally ill people(or those prone to it) are Doctors, Professors,housewives, actors,Lawyers,CEO'S of companies etc. People from ALL walks of life.

Its not only the homeless people with ragged clothes looking up at the sky and muttering something incomprehensible that are the majority of those who are mentally ill.

Sorry for ramble. Its just that mental illness has such a stigma to it. Drives me nuts!!

But yes,its always great to have Uranus-ruled energy in your corner(especially in the 8th house or with Scorpio).

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posted October 04, 2018 03:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Keep in mind though that it is the one who is INSIDE the boat who can pull others who are drowning to safety.

So that means that YOU will have to remain in the boat, dry and the anchor.

It is so easy when playing this role to progressively divert to the mentality of the person you are trying to "save". Be careful.

As when you are listening, consoling and empathizing with their illness,you may invariably " take on" the energy.

So that means you can easily start to see the world from their point of view. And if you don't remain centred in the faith that illness is temporary, you may also start to have a cynical outlook.

I don't mean to be indelicate. I briefly worked at a suicide hotline and it was exhausting.

People have built-in momentum to thought patterns(in the case of suicide) that are hard for them to let go of.

So they call a helpline because essentially they are asking to live. But as you work with them, one realizes that they are not ready to choose life.

And that is mostly due to the attachment to the past body hurt/thoughts that they do not want to "dishonor" by moving on.

But as you encourage them that the bigger choice allows for both:honoring the past body hurt is moving on. Because it HEALS it. They still don't internalize it.

Just don't get lost. Like I did. Be careful of absorbing all of that. I was always so sad working there I didn't feel like I was "helping" anyone.

I ended up feeling like I needed helping...

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posted October 04, 2018 03:47 PM            

Natally I have Sun-Jupiter-Neptune. So I tend to not want to see the crevices. And the fact that its in the 9th house makes me come across "preachy"

So I ended up talking to them based on where they want to be. And not so much where they were.

And my mentor said that I was too "motivational speaker" in my approach. That I had to listen more and look at where they are etc. I struggled with this.

That's when I knew I couldn't "save" them without my Archer arrows bending and warping in ways to leave my mind dented and confused. That was my limit.

But you know yourself best.

Are you the type not to take problems home?

Is your Mood pretty stable?

Are you realistic without being Cynical?

Do you follow through despite challenges?

Are you able to separate ego from results?

Do you accept that you are not in control of outcomes?

Do you bounce back from rejection or rebuffs?

Are you the type who does not need to feel "needed"?

Its all about the patient. Not you. This is the truly humbling part. There is no " hero".

posted October 05, 2018 11:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I am optimistic and upbeat naturally. And believe the world a place reflective of our contextual perspective.

Natally I have Sun-Jupiter-Neptune. So I tend to not want to see the crevices. And the fact that its in the 9th house makes me come across "preachy"

So I ended up talking to them based on where they want to be. And not so much where they were.

And my mentor said that I was too "motivational speaker" in my approach. That I had to listen more and look at where they are etc. I struggled with this.

That's when I knew I couldn't "save" them without my Archer arrows bending and warping in ways to leave my mind dented and confused. That was my limit.

But you know yourself best.

Are you the type not to take problems home?

Is your Mood pretty stable?

Are you realistic without being Cynical?

Do you follow through despite challenges?

Are you able to separate ego from results?

Do you accept that you are not in control of outcomes?

Do you bounce back from rejection or rebuffs?

Are you the type who does not need to feel "needed"?

Its all about the patient. Not you. This is the truly humbling part. There is no " hero".

There is however the facilitator. And the facilitator must be like water: neutral, detached, fluid, selfless and accessible.

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posted October 05, 2018 12:39 PM            

The 12th house is ruled by Pisces and planet Neptune, and is strongly connected with places of restriction. Jupiter here may bring some type of involvement with institutions such as monasteries, hospitals, and prisons. This placement makes the native a very compassionate person, willing to offer his services in order to comfort others.The presence of Jupiter here gifts a great intuition and a thirst to expand in the fields of psychology and healing.

As the twelfth house is responsible for both the collective subconscious and the individual’s deeper layers, Jupiter here will expand knowledge and will need less effort to understand the hidden functions of the human mind. A person with such a placement can even get deep into metaphysical studies, while the benefic planet grants protection from malicious supernatural attacks and accidents during roaming the inner fields of minds or the outer areas of reality.

http://theastrocodex.com/natal-jupiter-in-the-12th-house/

posted October 05, 2018 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Maybe I should just do nursing but I like Psychology.

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Don't doubt yourself. That was just my opinion based on my experience.

posted October 05, 2018 01:35 PM            

However, in full interpretation we must look at other more fundamental factors to see if such an emphasis is supported. The difficulty for you is the Moon's parallels to Saturn and Neptune. Clearly Saturn allows you take take yourself, your feelings seriously and to mature emotionally; Neptune allows empathy and spiritual perspective. But a common tendency from both planets in such close relation to the Moon is self doubt, being uncertain if you are adequate, up to the task. To help others with trauma and the like, you'll want to outgrow this inner uncertainty. Moon-Saturn aspects like these always indicate some kind of fundamental fear that can interrupt or sabotage almost anything.

Your Leonine and Aries general qualities can play their confidence-boosting role here, but first deal with what is inside you that brings up anything like what Saturn and Neptune parallel the Moon suggest. Do that and you will have greater confidence to help others tackle serious problems.

Moon in Aquarius does help, because of the socially oriented mentality and instincts that it lends.

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts

posted October 05, 2018 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
By itself, a cluster of planets in the 8th house gives no innate indication of working in the mental health field. Only loose sign-based associations stretch to that conclusion. The 8th house is more associated with others' resources materially or psychically, so if you feel these placements give you a desire to handle the internal life of others and to give them insights into their own psyches, then I'm not here to tell you that you cannot support others in that way.

However, in full interpretation we must look at other more fundamental factors to see if such an emphasis is supported. The difficulty for you is the Moon's parallels to Saturn and Neptune. Clearly Saturn allows you take take yourself, your feelings seriously and to mature emotionally; Neptune allows empathy and spiritual perspective. But a common tendency from both planets in such close relation to the Moon is [b]self doubt, being uncertain if you are adequate, up to the task. To help others with trauma and the like, you'll want to outgrow this inner uncertainty. Moon-Saturn aspects like these always indicate some kind of fundamental fear that can interrupt or sabotage almost anything.

Your Leonine and Aries general qualities can play their confidence-boosting role here, but first deal with what is inside you that brings up anything like what Saturn and Neptune parallel the Moon suggest. Do that and you will have greater confidence to help others tackle serious problems.

Moon in Aquarius does help, because of the socially oriented mentality and instincts that it lends.

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posted October 05, 2018 05:39 PM            

Sun, Jupiter, Eros and Lilith all clustered together in 8th. I am a counselor, though my specialty has changed direction over the years. And I have always been drawn to women, children and the "helpless" or "victimized." (Thanks, Lilith!)

posted October 05, 2018 05:49 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
I would say there is a draw.

Sun, Jupiter, Eros and Lilith all clustered together in 8th. I am a counselor, though my specialty has changed direction over the years. And I have always been drawn to women, children and the "helpless" or "victimized." (Thanks, Lilith!)

I find 8th house gives one a propensity to really ponder the dark, ugly taboo in life. And because of that they get drawn in to it in some fashion, either being dragged down by it or being one to pull another out of it. That's been my experience in life.

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posted October 06, 2018 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Deltahydrus:
I was so excited to see this post! I am fascinated by what Aries23degrees said about Uranus's relationship with the 8th house. My Aqua Sun is in the 8th house and trine my Scorpio Pluto in my 5th as well as sextile my Sag Uranus in my 6th house. I am currently finishing my Masters in Clinical Psychology to become a Sex/Marriage/Relationship Therapist. I've always felt a strong pull to mental/sexual trauma.

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Will you also offer astrology in your counselling sessions, if your patients believe in it?