posted November 01, 2018 09:03 PM            

The Feminine Planets:
Moon
Venus
Saturn
Neptune
Pluto

posted November 01, 2018 09:36 PM            

i've been called every male/female synonym for attractive, and i've been people's "exception" etc

posted November 01, 2018 09:44 PM            

Feminine from Cancer Moon

Masculine Mind from Gemini stellium

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posted November 02, 2018 12:56 AM            

I have Sun in Taurus, Venus in Taurus, Pluto conjunct Ascendant, Moon in 8th house, and Saturn square Ascendant (7 degrees, but I'm starting to think it manifests).

posted November 02, 2018 01:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Lerena:
I don't have a soft and dainty look. My feminine qualities are apparent though, because I'm a woman and my taste in fashion is feminine as a result of that.

I have Sun in Taurus, Venus in Taurus, Pluto conjunct Ascendant, Moon in 8th house, and Saturn square Ascendant (7 degrees, but I'm starting to think it manifests).

My mind and personality tends to lean on the masculine side, because my personality type is INTP and most INTPs are men. Astrologically, this is reflected through my Moon in Gemini and Mercury in Aries.

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posted November 02, 2018 05:19 AM            

I appear hostile to some and fraternal to others- so I can't be sure. Or maybe its when I have a beard?

posted November 02, 2018 08:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Lerena:
I don't have a soft and dainty look. My feminine qualities are apparent though, because I'm a woman and my taste in fashion is feminine as a result of that.

I have Sun in Taurus, Venus in Taurus, Pluto conjunct Ascendant, Moon in 8th house, and Saturn square Ascendant (7 degrees, but I'm starting to think it manifests).

My mind and personality tends to lean on the masculine side, because my personality type is INTP and most INTPs are men. Astrologically, this is reflected through my Moon in Gemini and Mercury in Aries.

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not all women have apparent feminine qualities... even when they dress feminine (which isnt necessarily going hand in hand with what they are anyway) there's the ones who just kind of look like men in dresses

not saying that's you or anything, but reading what you wrote made me think of this chick i knew who looked like brian posehn (born female, probably wouldve been more fortunate if she was trans because her being a woman was just all kinds of wrong to look at) and i found it funny as hell

relying on the fact that you were born a woman to indicate that you are one on any level that counts visually just doesnt always work, even with clothes and make up some women are just really unfortunate and i've seen/known a handful

my fiancee is an intp, and ive known a lot of nt's anyway (i like them, but i'm not one) and usually the j's it's not just that theyre more schedule oriented and so on it's that they're also more rigid mentally

their dominant functions arent the same even if you ignore the j with that sort of thing anyway

it's not my thing, but ive known people who obsess over it

thanks for the laugh though

posted November 02, 2018 09:23 AM            

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posted November 02, 2018 10:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Another thing is Moon/Venus in positive aspect--trine, sextile etc. This makes for a person comfortable with being female. If it is a guy, he is comfortable with his feminine side.

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i have moon/venus in hard aspect to each other and i'm as comfortable with femininity as i am masculinity

what i'm not comfortable with (for myself, because i can find very feminine women and very masculine men attractive and even tend to prefer them) is extremes in either direction

https://imgur.com/a/NJWganx pic related is my chart

@brenda_s

i don't see it as bragging to say people find me attractive, it's just sort of like saying any other fact

it's not exactly an accomplishment to have people like a shell you're in anyway

posted November 02, 2018 11:55 AM            

I am wondering this because I see some Cancer women, are supposed to be the "most feminine" by astro default, but they look more masculine at times to me, such as having a rectangular torso, inverted triangle body, broad shoulders, a wide face and heavy jaw, and very bony and leather like limbs. I think of like Jennifer Garner, Angelina Jolie, Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle both, and Billie Piper for this.

But then there are other Cancer women who are clearly just so soft and feminine, like a little cherub. Like Miranda Kerr, Alicia Vikander, and Laetitia Casta.

It doesn't seem to be like this with other feminine signs though, like Pisces and Scorpio and Taurus and Capricorn. They are typically almost always very stereotypically feminine looking, unless they have Cancer stuff. I wonder why is it so 50/50 in appearance with Cancers, it confuses me.

posted November 02, 2018 04:10 PM            

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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I am thinking of doing a study with celebrity charts, to see how true or untrue it may be that the more feminine planets on the asc and in contact with one another makes someone look more feminine. It is hard to do it on here since everyone can't be seen to verify accurately lol.

I am wondering this because I see some Cancer women, are supposed to be the "most feminine" by astro default, but they look more masculine at times to me, such as having a rectangular torso, inverted triangle body, broad shoulders, a wide face and heavy jaw, and very bony and leather like limbs. I think of like Jennifer Garner, Angelina Jolie, Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle both, and Billie Piper for this.

But then there are other Cancer women who are clearly just so soft and feminine, like a little cherub. Like Miranda Kerr, Alicia Vikander, and Laetitia Casta.

It doesn't seem to be like this with other feminine signs though, like Pisces and Scorpio and Taurus and Capricorn. They are typically almost always very stereotypically feminine looking, unless they have Cancer stuff. I wonder why is it so 50/50 in appearance with Cancers, it confuses me.

I am trying to figure out why this is. It is hard to tell so far, but it might be the state of the ASC. I'm not 100% sure yet. Any thoughts?

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This is funny to me because I'm a Cancer Sun with many Cancer placements and am unfortunately of the former variety. I have the inverted triangle body with really broad shoulders and a rectangular face. However, I have an Aries Ascendant that squares both my Cancer Sun/Venus conjunction with my Taurus Mars in the first house, so I feel like I have a very masculine, Arian look to me while the rest of my chart is full of feminine water and earth planets. I hate it because I notice people tend to think I'm much more masculine than I am, whereas internally I feel very feminine.

posted November 02, 2018 07:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
not all women have apparent feminine qualities... even when they dress feminine (which isnt necessarily going hand in hand with what they are anyway) there's the ones who just kind of look like men in dresses

not saying that's you or anything, but reading what you wrote made me think of this chick i knew who looked like brian posehn (born female, probably wouldve been more fortunate if she was trans because her being a woman was just all kinds of wrong to look at) and i found it funny as hell

relying on the fact that you were born a woman to indicate that you are one on any level that counts visually just doesnt always work, even with clothes and make up some women are just really unfortunate and i've seen/known a handful

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posted November 02, 2018 08:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Lerena: I see your point. I agree with your post overall, but people can easily tell I'm a woman. I'm not masculine-looking at all and I identify as my assigned gender.

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i know, that's why i said "not saying that's you or anything" you were clear

i just found it funny because you said it like that's every chick out there and i immediately thought of someone in particular

the entire tone of what you wrote made it all funnier

so i said something

posted November 03, 2018 07:41 AM            

By masculine, I guess I mean not on the petite side? But then, there are also petite men aren't there.

I read somewhere that because Libra is about balance, both genders have a bit of both in them. Which may explain Kate.

Women were once seen and appreciated as round and voluptuous. And even stocky in some times past, and in current cultures too.

posted November 03, 2018 11:06 AM            

Mercury is the actual planet of duality and Gemini is the sign of twins, dual humans. Venus Libra is a feminine planet ruling over Masculine sign, thus that duality again. Libra is also about balance so that goes back to their dual nature. And Aquarius is ruled over both by masculine and feminine planets who are complete opposites in every way, one is stability, tradition, and control the other is chaos, spontaneity, and eccentricity.

All of the air signs are pretty dual natured.

And back to my other post, I am still trying to figure out what could be the cause of this. Right now, I think I am straying from the feminine planets touching ASC narrative and am starting to think it has to do with ruler placements.

posted November 03, 2018 09:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
my fiancee is an intp, and ive known a lot of nt's anyway (i like them, but i'm not one) and usually the j's it's not just that theyre more schedule oriented and so on it's that they're also more rigid mentally

their dominant functions arent the same even if you ignore the j with that sort of thing anyway

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True about the rigidity, on such forums you can almost cringe. I wonder if the difference would be Saturn vs Uranus laden people.

posted November 03, 2018 09:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

i don't see it as bragging to say people find me attractive, it's just sort of like saying any other fact

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posted November 03, 2018 09:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
True about the rigidity, on such forums you can almost cringe. I wonder if the difference would be Saturn vs Uranus laden people.

However even though I'm laid back and all, nothing can go half executed, probably the part that makes me think I'm J. But I think those are the P traits as well. (dunno was into that a while ago)

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my.fiancee actually has both conjunct her sun funny.enough

p's can definitely get obsessive and finish things, but it.isnt the same.as a j

at least not the ones ive known

ive never been really into that though

posted November 03, 2018 10:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I guess. But not really. But I get it. And I was doing the same so not necessarily complaining.

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i guess i see it as bragging if it makes someone feel good or something rather than it just sort of being the way things are for better and worse

also it's a matter of weight put on appearance

i don't think it matters much, i think people can be perfect in other ways that make me like them and i can find people attractive or feel connected to them regardless of whether or not i find them physically attractive

i can also find odd **** attractive, and i mean genuinely attractive

there were these siamese twins, musicians, old time freakshows... hot as ****

though admittedly i dont have standards with siamese twins if that were to ever come up...for science

anyway it's not anything to brag about i dont think

it's not an accomplishment, people just are or they arent just like they are or arent other things

i think.things worth bragging about are accomplishments, thingsthat are achieved through actual work and experience