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Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted November 11, 2018 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's been a huge debate on whether Mercury is exalted in either Virgo or Aquarius. I think a lot of people think it's ridiculous to have a planet be in domicile and exaltation at the same time. I think otherwise.

In the article from https://soratothamax.wordpress.com/2016/03/21/mars-signs-what-he-wants-astrology/ , the author describes exaltation (in the part Mars in Capricorn was explained) as:

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...(the) most effective state of being...

It also goes on to further explain that the sign of exaltation is where the planet:

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...gets the most accomplished and finds the best channel for all of (its) energy.

I truly believe Mercury is exalted in Virgo because this is where Mercury "finds the best channel for its energy".

In Gemini, the domicile position, Mercury acquires a pile of information, yet only makes use of some. In Gemini, the mode of communication may also be more conversational, not really having any direction of purpose. All of these make Mercury in Gemini a refreshing conversationalist because you can learn a lot from them, even if it is information you don't really use. It is pretty nice to know more than the average person does.

In Aquarius, Mercury formulates a lot of ideas (just like every other air sign), and most are highly original and unique--some even to the point of genius. However, it may lack the practicality to put such ideas into use. Mercury thinks ahead of its time when it is in this position. It is able to see the bigger picture in everything and ideas come and go very quickly. But this "speed of light" forward thinking is exactly the flaw with Mercury in Aquarius. They may be coming up with a different idea already while before they even implemented the previous one. In social situations, they may not be able to get their point across as they intended because people are just not as ahead as they are. They might be a bit misunderstood because of their genius. People are either amazed or confused by them.

Mercury, I believe is not just about ideas. It is also about being able to communicate effectively and be able to get your point across with accuracy and precision. After all, Mercury is the messenger. What's a messenger that cannot properly express the messages he's supposed to deliver?

I also believe thoughts create reality. If you do not put enough focus into a thought or an idea, it will not manifest the way you imagined it.

This is why I believe Mercury is exalted in Virgo.

With Mercury in Virgo, the thought process is slower and more deliberate. The mind might be skeptical and it might be challenging for Mercury to be open to millions of different ideas that have not yet been tested. In order for Mercury in Virgo to take the leap, they must see a systematic approach to an idea that would ensure success in implementation. Mercury in Virgo makes sure the benefits of an idea highly outweigh its risk, if not completely eliminating risk. Seeing flaws in an idea, allows those with Mercury in Virgo invest their time wisely in ideas and projects that benefit them and others the most. This sensitivity to flaws also allows Mercury to go back and look for new ideas to fix the flaws in their ideas. Mercury also speaks slowly in this sign, and chooses his words carefully. It might not be as as quick-witted as Mercury in Gemini or as genius as Mercury in Aquarius, but it is precise in its delivery of information. The practicality of Virgo helps Mercury discard any information it deems useless. After all, a cluttered mind does not function as well than a decluttered one.

In this way, I see Virgo as the sign where Mercury can make use of its energy effectively.


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posted November 11, 2018 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see Mercury as the communicator. In my thinking, its exaltation is in Libra.

I am not sure how Virgo is ruled by Mercury really as one needs to have a silver tongue to be able to communicate with differing people.

I do understand that Mercury is also strongly cerebral and organises information into a cohesive format etc. But I regard Virgos less diplomatic approach to be the messenger who got shot because of delivering the message in a "matter of fact" way.

Virgos ime are very blunt and "to the point". People would just kill the messenger because they are delivering the message verbatim as Virgo does not pay attention to how a message is RECEIVED more than WHAT is said.

So tact and knowing how much to reveal, when and how is a Libra/Gemini thing. As these two energies know that if certain information is disclosed at an inappropriate time, it could.be their head on a stake.

They pay attention to the HOW the .message is being delivered or received. Not so much WHAT is being said.

I see Aqua to be exalted in Jupiter. Because Aqua Mercury people are ime very futuristic in their thinking and not in touch with the mundane of everyday relating.

They are also too impatient with "slow" people and can communicate in terms very outlandish ,"cryptic" or difficult to understand (because of their wide scientific bent and love of idioms/metaphors)

Saturn exaltation would then be in Virgo-the "nose to the grindstone" planet with the "workaholic" energy of Virgo seems to match. Here Virgo can retain its "no nonsense and let's stick to the bare facts" approach to things.

Cancer(Jupiter's previous exaltation point) would find its new exalted home in Neptune. Both the eery planet and mystical Moon have energies that coincide in seamless ways imo.

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posted November 11, 2018 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
virgo mercuries rub me the wrong way usually, and i can always pick them out

talking to them can give me a migraine

i've never understood why it's exalted since virgo mercury just tends to nitpick everything and i feel like they spend so long focusing on unimportant details that it takes forever to have a conversation about anything


i dont want to have a philosophical discussion on the subjectivity/objectivity of every word used and a dictionary on hand and a discussion on how i didnt say something exactly the way they wouldve liked before we can talk about something

yeah eventually you get somewhere clear with them i guess if you have the patience to deal with the nitpicking

but it doesnt seem particularly effective to me except from a highly technical standpoint

which i guess is important and all that

it doesnt really matter though debilitation and exaltation can play out so many ways depending on everything else

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hypatia238
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posted November 11, 2018 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is no way Mercury is exalted in Libra. I have a friend with that and she is creative and artistic but very far from smart, often talking about shallow surface things, it is super annoying, not a deep thinker at all. Mercury in Libra is often artistic, I know another who is a writer and all he thinks about is justice, he on the other hand is a good story teller and can talk about deeper things, he has moon in sag, very self righteous though.

I have noticed libras talk too much, even here when they respond is usually like an essay and I tend to skip over it bc of it, I can be impatient with too much talking, too much talking can dilute the message and lose those with shorter attention spans but it depends someone who is very good at telling stories can pull it off so a strong Mercury in libra can be fun to talk to.

It can range from someone who has verbal diarrhea who talks about nothing with depth to a good story teller.

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posted November 11, 2018 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgos are blunt? I thought Virgos were more introverted and keep a lot to themselves. Unless the virgo has a strong sag influence. Is important to be diplomatic but also clear and concise in communication, you don't want to be so diplomatic that the person misses the point, so is quite a balancing act. Say what you need to say and be as concise and clear as possible. I guess that is my Mercury in Virgo in the 9th talking square Northnode in Gemini and Southnode in Sag. I feel I pick and choose when to be diplomatic or blunt and use my intuition to guide me with that as mercury opposes my moon in Pisces which rules my 8th which also squares my nodes. My Mercury is positioned in a way that it integrates all the mutable signs actually making me pretty understanding and open minded. My boss has told me a few times that I am very flexible and can get along with almost any type of client and my line of work is centered around communication, exploring and processing thoughts and feelings.

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posted November 12, 2018 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My feeling is that Mercury is exaulted in Virgo. I don't think we have the right ruling planet for them yet. Maybe Cereas, maybe something undiscovered...

Mercury in Virgo is Mercury the merchant. Take one with you to the auction, let them bid for you, and do the appraisal for you beforehand. It's Mercury the MacGyver. Got a motherboard that blew a capacitor? Virgo will resolder the board for you. Car trouble? Virgo has the multimeter to diagnose it, and the duct tape and bailing wire to get you back to town.

Virgo Mercury collects all those trivial details too, just like Gem Merc, but Virgo Merc focuses on the physical uses of that knowledge.

The other side of this is looking at the detriment. I don't know if detriment Mercury in Leo makes as much sense as Mercury in Pisces.

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posted November 12, 2018 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
virgo mercuries rub me the wrong way usually, and i can always pick them out

talking to them can give me a migraine


LOL I can sympathize. I've got this. I kinda have this ability to drive people crazy xD Interesting, as far as I can tell, I am immune to my own kind lmao

But I don't care much for the small stuff, as you said, like being a grammar Nazi for instance.

I can get "cold", speak quietly, calmly, strictly logical and it just drives some people off the wall.

Interestingly, I do think Virgo in general is probably the best at dealing with disturbed people, psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists on the extreme end of the spectrum. Hannibal Lecter confronted with Virgo Merc or strong Virgoan individual would probably end up eating himself in the end.

If they try to play their games with me/them (especially virgo mars and merc), I'm unfazed and just pick, pick, give fact after fact after fact after fact after fact after fact after fact.

Then they implode.

Who's the psycho now??

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posted November 12, 2018 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^It depends I have mercury opposite moon and square neptune so yes I can speak from a very logical place and kind of dissociate from my Moon at times but also can show A LOT of compassion and empathy when communicating with others. I cry sometimes with my clients. It depends on the situation, at times I integrate both, at times I shift between one or the other.

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posted November 12, 2018 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
Virgo has the multimeter to diagnose it, and the duct tape and bailing wire to get you back to town.


Hahhaha

I swear if a Virgo Mercury examined my papers I'd flunk every test, coz they always lack facts facts fact. It's just me creating random stories out of thin air with a bit of flair to impress and deceive the examiner, a bit of a smokescreen so to speak.

I used to tutor a Virgo girl whom I suspect also might have her Mercury in it coz whenever I tutored her trying to paint pictures with words she used to stare at me like -___- while I was totally absorbed in painting those pictures XD, the only person I had practiced tutoring on was my brother with a Sag Mercury who'd understand what I said even if I pulled out an example from Uranus to elaborate what I said, safe to say that approach didn't work with an exalted/domicile mercury at all, I didn't last 2 weeks rofll.

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posted November 12, 2018 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Hahhaha

I swear if a Virgo Mercury examined my papers I'd flunk every test, coz they always lack facts facts fact. It's just me creating random stories out of thin air with a bit of flair to impress and deceive the examiner, a bit of a smokescreen so to speak.

I used to tutor a Virgo girl whom I suspect also might have her Mercury in it coz whenever I tutored her trying to paint pictures with words she used to stare at me like -___- while I was totally absorbed in painting those pictures XD, the only person I had practiced tutoring on was my brother with a Sag Mercury who'd understand what I said even if I pulled out an example from Uranus to elaborate what I said, safe to say that approach didn't work with an exalted/domicile mercury at all, I didn't last 2 weeks rofll.

Pisces Mercury


OMG I was about to say that I appreciate you and then started thinking is he neptunian followed by does he have a neptunian mercury and then BAM you say at the end you have mercury in pisces hahaha Love it!

I would not fail you! but I do have mercury square neptune so maybe I get your crazyness

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posted November 13, 2018 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kirki     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess it depends on what mercury represents for each.For me mercury represents a flexible mind with vision ,a mind that has empathy and also a stability to make its visions come true .Aquarius for me is the mercurian type i have on my mind.Virgo stucks to its little boxes too much .I see virgo as the assistant of aquarius boss.

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posted November 13, 2018 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces mercury for sale my worst placement 🙄

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posted November 13, 2018 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kirki:
I guess it depends on what mercury represents for each.For me mercury represents a flexible mind with vision ,a mind that has empathy and also a stability to make its visions come true .Aquarius for me is the mercurian type i have on my mind.Virgo stucks to its little boxes too much .I see virgo as the assistant of aquarius boss.

Aquarius is flexible? Aren't they known for been stubborn?

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posted November 13, 2018 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently the smartest man in the world has Mercury conjunct Jupiter in Aries by 1 degree along with Mercury trine Pluto!

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posted November 13, 2018 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kirki     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquarius are stubborn when they have made a conclusion,but they like exchange of opinions,they listen to what people have to say.At least thats how i see it...

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posted November 13, 2018 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Pisces mercury for sale my worst placement 🙄


Whoa, I love that placement!

A bestie has it, and I understand him flawlessly!

Any other creative individual will adore the way a Pisces Merc communicates. They're so artistic and visual! Almost like a synesthesia way of communicating...
Even with my virgo placements myself, I enjoy it.


And remember Virgo and Pisces are polar opposites, so they're supposed to (ideally) attract one and other. The ones who are not attracted to you are the ones who still fear what they need

Virgo should see your poetic tongue as the most beautiful form of communication *-*


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Apparently the smartest man in the world has Mercury conjunct Jupiter in Aries by 1 degree along with Mercury trine Pluto!

WHoa whoa whoa whoa wat? Who? And intelligent how? We talkin' IQ? According to whom??

And me... well my Merc is essentially unaspected... D-d-d-does this mean I'm a retard?

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posted November 13, 2018 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
WHoa whoa whoa whoa wat? Who? And intelligent how? We talkin' IQ? According to whom??

And me... well my Merc is essentially unaspected... D-d-d-does this mean I'm a retard?


IDK what an unaspected mercury means but you have it in virgo and you keep making suggestions constantly that you don't agree that mercury is at home in virgo. However, obviously you are not a re*ard, nobody has suggested that.

It makes sense Mercury conjunct Jupiter in such a tight aspect would make someone accumulate a lot of knowledge and that mercury trine pluto would help with memory retention and make someone a deep thinker, both together would give someone an insatiable thirst for knowledge. Add aries thinks fast and can absorb a lot of information fast and in mercury they may be very competitive intellectually.

Einstein also has mercury in Aries.

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posted November 13, 2018 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
IDK what an unaspected mercury means but you have it in virgo and you keep making suggestions constantly that you don't agree that mercury is at home in virgo. However, obviously you are not a re*ard, nobody has suggested that.


I was being facetious :P I know no one did. Maybe the joke was too obscure.... I do that Cause you said that person had all those aspects, and I dont. Self deprecating! Explaining humor kills it xD oh man.

And I didn't make any suggestions x.x Probably misinterpretation.

#misunderstood4lyfe

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posted November 13, 2018 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no doubt it is exalted in Aquarius, I've enough friends with Mercury in Aquarius to be amazed by the clarity of their minds.

Mercury in Virgo worries itself to death....

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posted November 13, 2018 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no doubt it is exalted in Aquarius, I've enough friends with Mercury in Aquarius to be amazed by the clarity of their minds.

Mercury in Virgo worries itself to death....

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posted November 13, 2018 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have no doubt it is exalted in Aquarius, I've enough friends with Mercury in Aquarius to be amazed by the clarity of their minds.

Mercury in Virgo worries itself to death....


Really?

I'm not saying you're wrong, but what I do know is more often than not, Aquarius is prone to an electrical mind that is also seemingly quite capable of extreme nervous energy, and anxiety.

If anything I think that they can freak out a lot more than Virgo. When I see Aquarius anywhere or 11th house, and especially Uranus, I tend to associate it with a potential for extreme anxiousness that would make what Virgo experiences kin to child's play.

But I think for both Virgo and Aquarius, would be more indicative of imbalance. But with Aquarius can be a little tricky, because some of their anxiety is needed for their lightning bolt genius thoughts. Keep in mind Aquarius also has a great poker face.

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posted November 13, 2018 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
I was being facetious :P I know no one did. Maybe the joke was too obscure.... I do that Cause you said that person had all those aspects, and I dont. Self deprecating! Explaining humor kills it xD oh man.

And I didn't make any suggestions x.x Probably misinterpretation.

#misunderstood4lyfe


hahahaha You are cute. You are very smart though.

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posted November 13, 2018 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep my supervisor who is an art therapist is very open about that she suffers from anxiety although you are right you would not think it, she has a great poker face and I feel she manages her anxiety very well. I think her Venus in sag gives the impression she is full of positive energy and she is but also struggles a lot with anxiety. She actually has mercury in Aquarius square exact Uranus.

She has mercury in Aquarius, I have mercury in virgo and i don't suffer from anxiety, more circumstantial like during times of crisis or big changes which is natural but not an ongoing thing.

I will say she is able to come up with ideas easily though and is very creative. Does that mean mercury is exalted in aquarius?! I don't know as I feel every mercury has its strengths and excel in some way, is hard to figure out which sign would be exalted in mercury. Like mercury in leo would be good at promoting and advertisement, getting people's attention to notice something ect and also creative, mercury in libra is also very creative. So do we measure if mercury is exalted in a sign bc of creativity? bc if so then yes Aquarius is a great choice.

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I thought mercury in virgo was suppose to be detail oriented and exalted etc etc.
But after being friends with a guy who has mercury virgo and sun, and lacks so many virgo traits I'm not sure about it anymore..

Its like this. No planet is ever in its purest purest form in any sign.

Even a planet in an exalted sign, will be watered down by so many things like, house placement, other aspects, the chart as a whole..

So I would believe, maybe in some cases person A who has mercury in an other sign then virgo has a stronger mercury then person B who has merc in virgo,
maybe person A has a chart or aspects to merc that is better then person B,s mercury in virgo etc..

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posted November 13, 2018 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
I thought mercury in virgo was suppose to be detail oriented and exalted etc etc.
But after being friends with a guy who has mercury virgo and sun, and lacks so many virgo traits I'm not sure about it anymore..

Its like this. No planet is ever in its purest purest form in any sign.

Even a planet in an exalted sign, will be watered down by so many things like, house placement, other aspects, the chart as a whole..

So I would believe, maybe in some cases person A who has mercury in an other sign then virgo has a stronger mercury then person B who has merc in virgo,
maybe person A has a chart or aspects to merc that is better then person B,s mercury in virgo etc..


I concur, is tricky!

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