posted November 26, 2018 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ Ohh I love her intensity, and I find her human lets say , has an absolutely ruthless instinct coupled with her own kind of love(for her children especially) . And she ain't half-azzed, I like that, if she gotta blow up(literally and figuratively) some people to survive, she gonna blow up them up, I think she'd have done something to Tywin too, if it came to that. And I also love her vengeful nature, smell something in Scorpio, the moon, coupled with an Aries Mars, a bit too impulsive both of them, just a bit .

Tywin is another one I love, choosing to kill 12 men in a room rather than 40,000 men in a battle, very practical lol, give the man a Capricorn Mars, altho the actor himself has a Scorpio stellium, very charismatic, from his interviews and other movies, it seems like it was not Charles Dance who played Tywin, it was Tywin who played Charles Dance.
Jamie is a charming man, perhaps it's that actor's vibe, he plays a cheating husband in another movie too quite well.
Lena Headey too has Sun conjunct Pluto along with BML conjunct Moon, perfect for Cersei, along with Mercury in Scorpio, a vicious tongue, plus a Venus in Scorpio, hell she is Cersei!, a Libra Sun, oooh the things she done for love, trolol .

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I do understand why you like her, I like her passion and ruthless determination. So I get that even though she is a villain there is something compelling about her. I am mad at myself for feeling bad for her when she was captured and forced to atone and do the walk of shame. Is like she 100% brought that unto herself and deserves every bit of it but yet I felt a little bad for her.

The thing is that I am not convinced that she loves her kids, Cersei loves Cersei, deep down that is all she loves I feel, like her love for revenge and to be Queen is stronger than the love for her kids IMO and is why everything she touches eventually she destroys bc her own actions came back to her and bite her. Her youngest son loved Margie for real and she did not blink to destroy Margie bc her desire to be queen is stronger than the love for her son and this drove him to end his life. Her other son Jeoffrey is a monster and is bc she created him to be a monster, "he can't do no wrong," she literally spoiled him rotten and created a sociopath who is unable to feel.

posted November 26, 2018 06:01 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ Ohh I love her intensity, and I find her human lets say , has an absolutely ruthless instinct coupled with her own kind of love(for her children especially) . And she ain't half-azzed, I like that, if she gotta blow up(literally and figuratively) some people to survive, she gonna blow up them up, I think she'd have done something to Tywin too, if it came to that. And I also love her vengeful nature, smell something in Scorpio, the moon, coupled with an Aries Mars, a bit too impulsive both of them, just a bit .

Tywin is another one I love, choosing to kill 12 men in a room rather than 40,000 men in a battle, very practical lol, give the man a Capricorn Mars, altho the actor himself has a Scorpio stellium, very charismatic, from his interviews and other movies, it seems like it was not Charles Dance who played Tywin, it was Tywin who played Charles Dance.
Jamie is a charming man, perhaps it's that actor's vibe, he plays a cheating husband in another movie too quite well.
Lena Headey too has Sun conjunct Pluto along with BML conjunct Moon, perfect for Cersei, along with Mercury in Scorpio, a vicious tongue, plus a Venus in Scorpio, hell she is Cersei!, a Libra Sun, oooh the things she done for love, trolol .

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posted November 27, 2018 08:50 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Also I don't understand at all your issue with Arya Stark?! LOL I mean she is a young girl who works super hard to learn how to fight and ends up fighting better than most adults including men (over time with enough practice), she avenges the death of her family (e.g. the red wedding), she is a survivor who loves a challenge and is very brave and after a lot of hardship becomes really good at taking care of herself. I would think anyone plutonic would appreciate her character.

IRL she has sun in aries, makes sense she chose the role of the fighter/warrior who wants to avenge her family.

Maybe you have to have a very plutonic mars to appreciate this show. I have mars in leo in the 8th sextile Pluto with Persona Mars in Scorpio at 29 degrees. My partner loves the show too and the books (audio) and he has Mars in Scorpio semisextile pluto with pluto ruling his 7th, the writer himself has Mars square Pluto.

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I'm the only one mentioning Arya I believe? If so, I wrote that she is "dark as hell and great". Arya is one of my favs, and always been. Her courage and how bad ass she is.

The revenging part, well they are great because its something we all fantize about, revenge.

But I find, a person is "unevolved" and not mature, when going for revenge the way she is. There is a line between justice and revenge.

Dany for ex tries her best justice instead of revenge, she struggles though, but she has very wise people helping her with advice.

!SPOILERS!
Arya is all alone and completely consumed with the feelings of revenge.
When she kills that pedofile I find it as justice.

When she kills her brothers murderers children and let him eat them, well that is revenge in its true form, and nice to see in a show, but its not something I would like seing in a real human. Mercy is a much more nobel virtue. GOT of course is not about being nobel and just. Because that often is the end of you (aka, Jon snow ahah) <3

Anyways, nope I don't care about Georges awards, I never cared for awards, they are overrated imo . I don't like following others, maybe thats uranian of me?
"Oh so everybody liked this book? So it has awards? Well I'm not everybody! I will judge it for ma self!" Haha I can be annoying as hell! :/

Very rarely have I thought a book or movie is great based on an award. Often when I read an awarded book I'm disappointed. Oscars, they are often politics.

posted November 27, 2018 08:55 AM            

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I wanted to respond properly here, but alas, my English is Not as good as yours! I won't be able to express myself the way I want to English is my third language, and I havn't been using it properly for more then a few years :/

posted November 27, 2018 09:06 AM            

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Anyways, nope I don't care about Georges awards, I never cared for awards, they are overrated imo . I don't like following others, maybe thats uranian of me?

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Same TBH. I think awards can be a really big joke, even. Aspiring for awards just seems so... bleh imo. Diplomas fall into that category too. When I got mine years ago I was so indifferent to it. Didn't puff me up at all. My mother was shocked to learn I'd gotten it but didn't mention it till months later. I guess she expected some kind of celebration lol but IDC. And I don't like hubris-type boasting if someone does have a lot of awards.

posted November 27, 2018 09:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:

I'm the only one mentioning Arya I believe? If so, I wrote that she is "dark as hell and great". Arya is one of my favs, and always been. Her courage and how bad ass she is.

The revenging part, well they are great because its something we all fantize about, revenge.

But I find, a person is "unevolved" and not mature, when going for revenge the way she is. There is a line between justice and revenge.

Dany for ex tries her best justice instead of revenge, she struggles though, but she has very wise people helping her with advice.

!SPOILERS!
Arya is all alone and completely consumed with the feelings of revenge.
When she kills that pedofile I find it as justice.

When she kills her brothers murderers children and let him eat them, well that is revenge in its true form, and nice to see in a show, but its not something I would like seing in a real human. Mercy is a much more nobel virtue. GOT of course is not about being nobel and just. Because that often is the end of you (aka, Jon snow ahah) <3

Anyways, nope I don't care about Georges awards, I never cared for awards, they are overrated imo . I don't like following others, maybe thats uranian of me?
"Oh so everybody liked this book? So it has awards? Well I'm not everybody! I will judge it for ma self!" Haha I can be annoying as hell! :/

Very rarely have I thought a book or movie is great based on an award. Often when I read an awarded book I'm disappointed. Oscars, they are often politics.

The exception for me is of course, Harry Potter and LOTR lol (and some more I can't remember now) <3

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Her family was slaughtered at a wedding and her father was murdered too, we are talking about cold blooded murder here, this is not when you show mercy imo, what she did is justice, specially considering the world they live in. This is not a victimless crime. You take away someone's right to live and take away someone's father, brother and mother and you give up your own right to live.

Dany murders people who betray her and try to kill her btw.

posted November 27, 2018 10:14 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Her family was slaughtered at a wedding and her father was murdered too, we are talking about cold blooded murder here, this is not when you show mercy imo, what she did is justice, specially considering the world they live in. This is not a victimless crime. You take away someone's right to live and take away someone's father, brother and mother and you give up your own right to live.

Dany murders people who betray her and try to kill her btw.

Regardless of the awards his books were super popular bf the show premiered for a reason, yes you can disagree about him been a good writer but he is a good writer, he is just not your cup of tea.

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I Did say Dany is struggling with revenge vs justice, You are reading my texts too fast!

An eye for an eye. The act of killing a persons children and make him eat them, is not justice, thats sick revenge, or well, thats darkness one has inside of him/herself. Arya could just as well be a miniature Cercei, only that she had loving parents and also she was so little when all the bad stuff happened. Her dark sides maybe would had bloomed out regardless of all that horrible things, or not, we wont know for sure.

And an eye for an eye. If someone kills ones loved ones, you kill that person. Not his children, and now I'm refering to my own moral codes since I was talking about revenge vs justice. I don't remember if that mans childdren had a part of the killings or not. If they were not a part if it, then they should not be killed either. In a show, all of it has a nice theatrical shock value...
Anyways this is all moral values and codes things, way off topic sorry!