posted November 23, 2018 02:24 PM            

He has moon in Aries
He has Mars square Pluto

^That explains all the raping, war, back stabbing, vengeance, incest and violance he incorporates in his writings!

Even the dragons with fire coming out of their mouth is something moon in aries would think of

posted November 23, 2018 03:17 PM            

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Planetary declinations:

Notice anything else?

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posted November 23, 2018 03:36 PM            

Or Sagittarius - due to incest more animistic qualities (incest common in the animal kingdom.)

posted November 24, 2018 02:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
I read once, something about Saturn and/or Capricorn being related to darker theme of incest. Not necessarily Pluto or Scorp. Could be wrong but maybe something to it?

Or Sagittarius - due to incest more animistic qualities (incest common in the animal kingdom.)

Sidenote, read that darker themes of Virgo involve pedophilia or fantasies of children. Or if an adult - turned on by "child like" behavior in a slightly lighter way.

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Yes yes! This is what I read a couple of years ago and since then I have tryid to make a habit of looking up directors charts where the director/writer has dark disturbing themes.

I have found that neptune is involved (creativity) and it has aspects to mars, a trine,sextile or square most often.

Mars has capricorn/saturn placements and pluto is involved. For ex, having neptune in scorpio, aspecting a capricorn Mars or scorpio/plutonic mars. Uranus can be involved too.

I have anyways read and found that capricorn mars is often the theme here involved with neptune. It turns capri mars can have really dirty sexual fantasies. Pair it with pluto and you have a filthy combo haha

There is for ex a movie, I have not watched, its a horrible, abominable, loathsome diabolical heinous movie (sorry, out of synonyms). Words are not enough to describe how horrible it is. A classmate told me the storyline, and I saw a few seconds of the trailer. That was it. I was not myself for atleast 2 weeks after that! I won't tell the name. But it involves raping of newborns..

The director birtdate is a mystery, but the lead actors is avaliable in astrotheme.
And yes he has for ex this: Mars conjunct pluto and uranus, trining neptune in scorpio, opposite saturn. One must be very sick to play a role in this movie I tell you that!

Anyways, since then I made a habit to quickly look up actors, writers and directors charts if it involves for ex horror and sadism and sexual violence etc. I found this pattern to almost always show up!

The thing is, I never take notes of stuff like this! I just get curious, and look up astrotheme, look if it confirms my hypothesis and then I move on lol..

Oh I remember, Ryan Murphy writer American horror story series (disgusting series imo)

He has Mars in capricorn, trining a pluto and uranus conjunction. Pluto and uraus is sextile neptune in scorpio. Netune loosely sextile Mars.

posted November 24, 2018 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Birthdate: September 20 1948

He has moon in Aries
He has Mars square Pluto

^That explains all the raping, war, back stabbing, vengeance, incest and violance he incorporates in his writings!

Even the dragons with fire coming out of their mouth is something moon in aries would think of

He also has mercury in libra conjunct neptune, hence his gift for fantasy writing. Disposited by venus in leo conjunct pluto further enhancing his creativity and ability to create complex plots and scripts.

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I never liked his writing. Or him for that matter. His books are a snooze party at best. He sure most be a super compulsive writer when he can go on and on like he does in his books. Somehow, the books worked out well as a tv-show though! Its all thanks to the directors and show creators I recon. Or well, thanks to that budget!

Funny thing is, hewas not even gonna have dragons in his book. He was talking about this, I don't remember if it was his fried, or relative, but a female person anyway, said to him that he must have dragons in his books. And he said it was all thanks to her that he wrote them in.

posted November 24, 2018 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
I never liked his writing. Or him for that matter. His books are a snooze party at best.

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I tend to agree. His brain is addled with something that seems to stunt his creativity. Some friends of mine watched the show, then loved it so much they decided to read the books. They reported it was really a piece of crud. I tried a bit myself, and I tend to agree. If you're someone who's into literature, especially older, well done novels, and you read his stuff, it is really just... badly done. I think people who are not very artistic or creative might think it's gr8 - like someone from the 1800's being wowed watching a person who's able to turn on a computer. Doesn't mean they're an engineer or sorcerer Lol. I think GOT fame is mainly due to the show, so I think the directors and writers who translated it did a better job. But still, IMO, the show's a lil "meh" xD But that's just my taste. I get why it's good, but I can't be arsed anymore... I personally get tired of Western media. Dragon's are cool though!

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Oh I remember, Ryan Murphy writer American horror story series (disgusting series imo)

He has Mars in capricorn, trining a pluto and uranus conjunction. Pluto and uraus is sextile neptune in scorpio. Netune loosely sextile Mars.

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That's a really interesting and clever find. I haven't dived as deeply into these things. Just read some stuff here and there about Capricorn and Saturn's freaky side. While I do think yes Pluto and Scorpio tend to be quite obvious, I like to hear about what isn't so obvious. I feel it is scapegoated a lot (a bit like Neptune and Pisces, only regarding "taboo" stuff.), and honestly I think Pluto might be a lil' tamer compared to Saturn/cap. Pluto encourages to meet our darkness, doesn't mean it puts it in us and is the always the source. Pluto's a lil' misunderstood bunny of luve.

posted November 24, 2018 05:12 PM            

Many people are eagerly waiting for the release of the last two books of his series terrified he will die before they get to read them for a reason I am sure.

http://uproxx.com/tv/game-of-thrones-walking-dead-ratings/

posted November 24, 2018 05:30 PM            

If there is any validity to these claims made about capricorns, sagitterious and virgo I would think that pluto/8th would be involved too since it rules anything taboo and that the rulers of the 5th and 8th would be involved too since is sexual abnormal behavior we are talking about specifically and that Mars would be involved too as well and very importantly a history of trauma would be present that disrupts normal development and a healthy emotional maturation of the native.

posted November 25, 2018 04:29 AM            

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I havent personally read his books but love the show which is the higuest rated show in the US for a reason although not for everyone. That been said a lot of people seem to read his book series and the show is based on it so I would think is great writing even if not everyone likes it, the show is not for everyone, I would think his books are not for everyone either. It doesnt mean he is a bad writer bc you two dont like his writing, even if I dont like his writing either it would still not mean that, many people enjoy his writing for a reason.

Many people are eagerly waiting for the release of the last two books of his series terrified he will die before they get to read them for a reason I am sure.

http://uproxx.com/tv/game-of-thrones-walking-dead-ratings/

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Yeah, believe me , his writing style is a snooze party. I know many read his books, and started to read them after the show started, because they wanted to know what was gonna happen. One has to jump several several pages until something happens. He can describe a for ex sailing trip sceen for almost a chapter with nothing with substance in it. He is overkilling things for dragging smallest non-essential details out for pages long. Its not like its a logic or intelligence to it. The man is just a compulsive writer.

His strenght though, and what makes his stories so great is the complex charecters, of course. How they grow and change. And the intelligent plots. And that no one is safe. The man has immense fantasy and is great about knowing and writing about human nature. But the "journey" there takes too long with meaningless compulsively dragged out chapters.

Nope, no one is eagerly waiting for his books because they enjoy his writing in itself. They just wanna know about the story itself, if you understand how I mean. Well you have to pick up one of his books and then you will see what I mean.

I have no dislike for the show. Its is an amazing show (except for all the nihilistic sex and porn scenes, bc, hbo. But there are slim to non un needed scenes of that kind since the last seasons).

Only ones I like in the show is the ones who tries to do good in the world, to end slavery and misery etc. Like Daenerys, Jon Snow and Tyrion etc. Cercei charecter is amazing too, how complex she is, or its thanks to the actress way of portraing her. Arya is dark as hell and great too. The white walkers is in my opinion and many others very displaced and has no place in this world, they are just a distraction and a bad move of the prodducers to have them in the story...

posted November 25, 2018 04:38 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
As for the astrological markers for incest, bestiality and pedaphilia these are all uncommon abbormal behavior that most people regardless of how their chart looks like would NOT engage in and be disgusted by it, add that often pedaphilia is the result of the cycle of abuse repeating itself and been passed down from generation to generation.

If there is any validity to these claims made about capricorns, sagitterious and virgo I would think that pluto/8th would be involved too since it rules anything taboo and that the rulers of the 5th and 8th would be involved too since is sexual abnormal behavior we are talking about specifically and that Mars would be involved too as well and very importantly a history of trauma would be present that disrupts normal development and a healthy emotional maturation of the native.

Reading something doesnt make it accurate, that could be just someone's biased opinion or observation. With serious matters like these if you are going to make it sound legit and I am going to buy into it I need data to back it up. Getting a random sample of sex offenders charged with pedaphilia would be a good start and checking to see if an above average of them have sun in virgo would be a start.

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I don't know if this post was intended for me, but yes its just "observations" in my case.
I don't intend to keep track of and create a database or something. And was only talking about people "writing" or creating thise kind of stories and movies etc and I found the neptune-mars connection in all of my observations, and it makes sense, when I just looked at creative writers/artists charts. I'm not trying to make something legit out of this, I'm not interested in that at all. That is a case for pro astrologers^^

I'm just interested in observing and find connections and patterns, for my own curiosity thats all.

Researching true pedophiles and their alike and their charts is not interesting to me at all.

posted November 25, 2018 04:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
That's a really interesting and clever find. I haven't dived as deeply into these things. Just read some stuff here and there about Capricorn and Saturn's freaky side. While I do think yes Pluto and Scorpio tend to be quite obvious, I like to hear about what isn't so obvious. I feel it is scapegoated a lot (a bit like Neptune and Pisces, only regarding "taboo" stuff.), and honestly I think Pluto might be a lil' tamer compared to Saturn/cap. Pluto encourages to meet our darkness, doesn't mean it puts it in us and is the always the source. Pluto's a lil' misunderstood bunny of luve.

And tbh I kinda liked the first season of AHS, but I mainly watched it because I was so desperate for a decent horror show, which are few and far between. Mainly it was disturbing though, yes. I didn't bother with the other seasons because the first was disturbing and gross enough, thx. I want it scary, not disturbing :P

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Oh my, yes! That is so correct! Saturn is way more freakier and disturbing then pluto! Capricorn is also portrayed as the devil, or baphomet, that freaky devil/god with a goat head haha. Like, one can believe pluto should be portrayed like a devil, but yeah, scorpio/pluto just wants transformation among other "healthy" things.

Aww pluto as a "bunny of luve" that got me laugh out loud <3

I too watched the first season of AHS, and liked it! That season was just a little disturbing compared with later ones.

posted November 25, 2018 09:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:

Oh my, yes! That is so correct! Saturn is way more freakier and disturbing then pluto! Capricorn is also portrayed as the devil, or baphomet, that freaky devil/god with a goat head haha. Like, one can believe pluto should be portrayed like a devil, but yeah, scorpio/pluto just wants transformation among other "healthy" things.

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Yep, I think so too. I think of Scorpio and Pluto as a healer. Scorpio/8th house/Pluto people, if they face themselves, wow, they are brave as hell and actually super cute and sweet. It is a very brave thing to seek to understand what others won't or are afraid to explore out of the norms. I've got some books on Saturn, and read some other tidbits regarding esoteric astrology (which I think goes even farther than the psychological bent), and some vedic astrology. Vedic ideas are a tad different, but for the most part, in the western world, Saturn/Sat(an)urn is likened to the Devil, or at least the archetypal lore behind what Satan represents in a wider scale regarding society and potential degradation of values and the human soul. Kin to the mythology of Lucifer who "fell", and must learn to rise again.

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Originally posted by Melinn:
I'm not trying to make something legit out of this, I'm not interested in that at all. That is a case for pro astrologers^^

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Yeah, same. If someone comes along and really wants to dive deep into that subject and study it and make it common knowledge, they can. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, they're isn't as much about fringe astrology as there is about the simple basic descriptions. I get the impression it's just too taboo and people just don't want to go there. Or, if they do, or have, they don' share it. Sometimes astrology seems really "controlled", like there could be even more to it than is readily available. We've got the socially acceptable, PC astrology down so far. People already get their panty's in a twist if someone says a sign can be mean. Imagine if darker archetypal energies are pinpointed.
I guess we'd need an astrology hero 8D I'm thinking he (or she) would be someone quite scorpion, so they can do the deep detective fringe work on astrology needed, and be obsessive about their study lol

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Originally posted by Melinn:

Aww pluto as a "bunny of luve" that got me laugh out loud <3

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Yeah, just misunderstood!

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Originally posted by Melinn:

Then I jumped over the seasons and watched "Freak show". I should never have done that. I was traumatized, appalled,, and disgusted by it all lol. It turns out they got very overboard with time, for the sake of shock and freakiness.

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Oh man I don't blame you at all. Me pers I just tried second and immediately responded with "NOPE!"

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I have no dislike for the show. Its is an amazing show (except for all the nihilistic sex and porn scenes, bc, hbo. But there are slim to non un needed scenes of that kind since the last seasons).

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Ahhh the nihilistic sex scenes. If a sex scene is really needed, I'm okay with it, but so many unneeded ones, after awhile, become a bit insulting to the intelligence. I don't just mean GOT. Any show or movie. It also becomes a lil' childish. "This is what you think people need in order to think this show is edgy or for adooltz." meeehh

posted November 25, 2018 11:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
Yeah, believe me , his writing style is a snooze party. I know many read his books, and started to read them after the show started, because they wanted to know what was gonna happen. One has to jump several several pages until something happens. He can describe a for ex sailing trip sceen for almost a chapter with nothing with substance in it. He is overkilling things for dragging smallest non-essential details out for pages long. Its not like its a logic or intelligence to it. The man is just a compulsive writer.

His strenght though, and what makes his stories so great is the complex charecters, of course. How they grow and change. And the intelligent plots. And that no one is safe. The man has immense fantasy and is great about knowing and writing about human nature. But the "journey" there takes too long with meaningless compulsively dragged out chapters.

Nope, no one is eagerly waiting for his books because they enjoy his writing in itself. They just wanna know about the story itself, if you understand how I mean. Well you have to pick up one of his books and then you will see what I mean.

I have no dislike for the show. Its is an amazing show (except for all the nihilistic sex and porn scenes, bc, hbo. But there are slim to non un needed scenes of that kind since the last seasons).

Only ones I like in the show is the ones who tries to do good in the world, to end slavery and misery etc. Like Daenerys, Jon Snow and Tyrion etc. Cercei charecter is amazing too, how complex she is, or its thanks to the actress way of portraing her. Arya is dark as hell and great too. The white walkers is in my opinion and many others very displaced and has no place in this world, they are just a distraction and a bad move of the prodducers to have them in the story...

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I See your point about his writing and I don't like it when things drag on too long but that still doesn't mean his writing is bad. You are the first person I have heard complaint about that so in spite of that issue with his writing, his writing overall is filled with creativity and a complexity and imagination that people truly love so they over look those pages were he is "writing compulsively." However, those pages you speak off some people like that stuff , his books won awards before hbo even approached him about making a show on them. I mean he literately created another world with its own unique map/geography, history and cultures, something truly unique and yes the character development is awesome.

As for the white walkers I was never thrilled about them either but after rewatching all 7 seasons I have a new appreciation for John Snow and the White Walkers. The white walkers are important and necessary bc they are that enemy that is so big that it must bring the 7 kingdoms together in order to have a chance if any to defeat them (stop fighting each other to fight the real enemy). Its also very symbolic emphasizing how at the end of the day we are all human and alive and we are all going to die and the real enemy is not each other but "the dead." Also this enemy he created which was originally created by the forest children to protect their land but got out of control is genius (e.g. the creative concept), I woul have never thought of it.

A lot of people read the books before the show came out, the book had to be popular enough first for hbo to consider making a show about it in the first place. But these are fans of that genre of writing (e.g. fantasy). Even now I know of people who have not watched the show and are reading the books first before they watch the show.

"How popular was A Song of Ice and Fire before HBO released the show?

It wasn't as popular as it is now, but it was still quite popular especially among fantasy readers, and the series has had dedicated followers for many years before the TV show aired.

A Game of Thrones was released in 1996, and though it was not an instant bestseller, it brought in enough attention for the next two books to reach The New York Times weekly bestseller lists - A Clash of Kings in 1999 (Source), and A Storm of Swords in 2000 (Source). Fans had to wait five years for A Feast for Crows, and it went straight to the top of the bestseller lists when it was released in 2005 (Source). Millions of copies had been sold even before the show premiered.

The books received widespread acclaim, with GRRM being referred to as the "American Tolkien" in a 2005 Time article (Source). The first four books received a number of awards, including three Locus awards (out of four nominations), three Nebula nominations, and two Hugo nominations.

And finally, the concept of people asking GRRM to write faster also pre-dates the TV show, which saw him publish a message to his "detractors" way back in 2009:

After all, as some of you like to point out in your emails, I am sixty years old and fat, and you don't want me to "pull a Robert Jordan" on you and deny you your book.

Okay, I've got the message. You don't want me doing anything except A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE. Ever. (Well, maybe it's okay if I take a leak once in a while?)"
http://www.quora.com/How-popular-was-A-Song-of-Ice-and-Fire-before-HBO-released-the-sh ow

posted November 25, 2018 11:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
I don't know if this post was intended for me, but yes its just "observations" in my case.
I don't intend to keep track of and create a database or something. And was only talking about people "writing" or creating thise kind of stories and movies etc and I found the neptune-mars connection in all of my observations, and it makes sense, when I just looked at creative writers/artists charts. I'm not trying to make something legit out of this, I'm not interested in that at all. That is a case for pro astrologers^^

I'm just interested in observing and find connections and patterns, for my own curiosity thats all.

Researching true pedophiles and their alike and their charts is not interesting to me at all.

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Nope I was referring to Lala's first post in this thread were she says she read Capricorns are into incest, Sagittarius are into bestiality and Virgos are into pedophilia.

posted November 25, 2018 12:50 PM            

IRL she has sun in aries, makes sense she chose the role of the fighter/warrior who wants to avenge her family.

posted November 25, 2018 03:36 PM            

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Nope I was referring to Lala's first post

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posted November 25, 2018 04:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:

Ahh, okay. I throw data around that I learn as interesting possibilities to discuss. If somebody has something to share related to it, then by all means. If not, then that's that. It's not meant as a final truth. I might even say "I read somewhere that someone says Aries likes whipped cream." Doesn't mean even I believe it. I can talk about things, thoroughly, without any attachment. But, for me, the sharing of this data will encourage people to discuss with an open mind and share their experiences regarding this statement or possibility. Hopefully somebody can statistically refute what I've read or validate (preferably not with emotion or bias). Who knows where it'll lead. I like to learn. Hopefully now you understand my intentions, just like anyone here who shares their experiences and what they've read. But you know what they say "follow the one who seeks the truth, but be wary of the one who claim's they've found it."

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I admire how you can discuss things without attachment. I wonder if that is bc your mercury is unaspected that you can do that. What sign is your persona mercury in? Also virgo?

I think it would be interesting to look at the birth charts of pedophiles and see if there are any patterns that pop up, if sun in virgo ends up truly been a significant marker compared to other sun signs I will honor that but I am highly skeptical of that since this behavior is often learned and passed down via the cycle of abuse, I am sure sometimes is not passed down and there is truly something biological at play, an adaptive trait that in some people goes too far, a mechanism that is over-functioning in some people so to speak so not functioning like its supposed to. I read about that, I was looking into the research of this phenomenon and why it happens and that was one of theories in my own words through the lenses of evolutionary psychology.

posted November 25, 2018 11:24 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I bet he had this extreme desire to bang someone related to him but never got to(loll!!), does he have siblings ?

Mercury conjunct Neptune, I see how after 6 seasons of all kinds of plotting he has this whim to give Brann an all-encompassing power to be able to see anything and everything.

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haha I know that a lot of his writing is inspired by our own history but then he would run with that inspiration and birth something new with it. Egyptian Pharoahs would marry their own siblings, I feel that is were that incest archetype in the book/show comes from since Cersei has this obsession with being Queen and feels she is above everyone so above everyone that only her own twin brother is good enough for her

Looking forward to her death!

I find Brann's gifts very interesting, it reminds me of my crazy dreams I have very sporadically that feel like I am traveling to another dimension and I understand the temptation of getting lost in all that if you have the ability to travel like that by will.

posted November 26, 2018 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Hahha...too bad, I'm a Cersei fan

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Tell me why you like her character?

I personally like Jamie, hard not to, he is hot and charming but deep down he is a hero I feel but Cersei and his father have gotten in the way of that.