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Valmu83
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posted December 02, 2018 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So it’s been time of my Jupiter return and there has been several promising Jupiter transits going on so I had high hopes. What happened? The day my Jupiter conjuncted my natal Jupiter (3th house) I got puny grand for making art (very small amount). It’s great okay but not what I expected. 12 years ago I started new phase of live, moved to another city and went to university Don’t want to sound ungrateful but there is huge difference.

And yesterday Jupiter conjuncted my natal Uranus (3th house) .. I got two unexpected Facebook message.. what a joke. One was friend request from my past crush. Is he my luck? Should I go for it? What is meaning of this ? And one was from girl that don’t like me. Was this transit only to surprise me? Also Jupiter square Venus went by with nothing. What’s wrong with this Jupiter??

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posted December 02, 2018 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing special happened either during my Jupiter return. Jupiter can be overrated. Check out these articles:

https://starsmoonandsun.com/2014/06/17/jupiter-transits-yes-they-are-overrated/

https://www.starself.com/underrated-saturn-overrated-jupiter/

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posted December 02, 2018 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Always count your transits backwards -from pluto to mars and venus. If pluto or uranus make some difficult aspects jupiter won’t give something great.

Also pr moon or sun in anaretic degree or pr moon void of course...

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posted December 02, 2018 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bumblebee:
Always count your transits backwards -from pluto to mars and venus. If pluto or uranus make some difficult aspects jupiter won’t give something great.

Also pr moon or sun in anaretic degree or pr moon void of course...


Count backwards? It’s Jupiter transit to my natal Uranus. Why to turn it other way a round? I don’t understand your meaning.

There in no progressed planet at anaretic degree but pr moon is exactly opposite Uranus.

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posted December 02, 2018 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astri:
Nothing special happened either during my Jupiter return. Jupiter can be overrated. Check out these articles:

https://starsmoonandsun.com/2014/06/17/jupiter-transits-yes-they-are-overrated/

https://www.starself.com/underrated-saturn-overrated-jupiter/


I agree..it’s just that 12 years ago big things happened to me and I was hoping to start new phase..maybe meet someone, to start a family, career change etc. I have been working a lot last 12 years even when I was suffering serious depression. I have made my best. But maybe it’s only Saturn that is awarding rewards not carefree Jupiter.

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posted December 02, 2018 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Valmu83:
Count backwards? It’s Jupiter transit to my natal Uranus. Why to turn it other way a round? I don’t understand your meaning.

no, Bumble is saying that the weigh of the outer planets transits impact, starts with the furthest - Pluto, then Neptune, Uranus, Saturn, and then comes Jupiter in the order of impactfulness. If one or more of those planets are in action, Jupiter benefits will not be felt as much

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posted December 02, 2018 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
no, Bumble is saying that the outer planets transits impact, starts with the furthest - Pluto, then Neptune, Uranus, Saturn, and then comes Jupiter in the order of impactfulness. If one or more of those planets are in action, Jupiter benefits will not be felt as much

Ah I see. There is only Uranus opposition Saturn and Pluto nothing hard to personal planets. Actually Uranus is also applying Sun with trine. But thank you both for that valuable information.

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posted December 02, 2018 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
no, Bumble is saying that the weigh of the outer planets transits impact, starts with the furthest - Pluto, then Neptune, Uranus, Saturn, and then comes Jupiter in the order of impactfulness. If one or more of those planets are in action, Jupiter benefits will not be felt as much

Oh interesting. That probably explains why I never experienced anything good with transits that supposed to give me new love because my Neptune been stuck in the 12th for so long. However, when pluto was conjuncting neptune and soon after crossing my MC that shattered my dreams and didn't 'change' my career but Neptune was already in the 12th. Since you say Pluto comes before Neptune, pluto should be strongest here in terms of making changes, but could it be because my south node is also in the 12th and having lots of piscean energy that neptune transits have stronger effect on me than pluto?


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posted December 02, 2018 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
no, Bumble is saying that the weigh of the outer planets transits impact, starts with the furthest - Pluto, then Neptune, Uranus, Saturn, and then comes Jupiter in the order of impactfulness. If one or more of those planets are in action, Jupiter benefits will not be felt as much

Oh interesting. That probably explains why I never experienced anything good with transits that supposed to give me new love because my Neptune been stuck in the 12th for so long. However, when pluto was conjuncting neptune and soon after crossing my MC that shattered my dreams and didn't 'change' my career but Neptune was already in the 12th. Since you say Pluto comes before Neptune, pluto should be strongest here in terms of making changes, but could it be because my south node is also in the 12th and having lots of piscean energy that neptune transits have stronger effect on me than pluto?


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posted December 02, 2018 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hu_w_ryl_A     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astri:
Oh interesting. That probably explains why I never experienced anything good with transits that supposed to give me new love because my Neptune been stuck in the 12th for so long. However, when pluto was conjuncting neptune and soon after crossing my MC that shattered my dreams and didn't 'change' my career but Neptune was already in the 12th. Since you say Pluto comes before Neptune, pluto should be strongest here in terms of making changes, but could it be because my south node is also in the 12th and having lots of piscean energy that neptune transits have stronger effect on me than pluto?


I would say yes as you always have to consider the natal aspects of planets in your chart when looking at transits. Say, you pluto is well aspected in natal with a trine to your sun and a sextile to your moon and no hard aspects, I would think that a pluto transit will generally not hurt you badly but rather promote welcomed change and growth.. and also, like you said, if your birth neptune is "strong" in a sense then you might feel more of an impact with its transits.
That's what I believe, at least..

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posted December 02, 2018 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Give it time. The peaks of combined transits rarely occur when one particular transit is exact. Also understand these are windows of opportunity. Jupiter transits don't happen to just bring us goodies. Windows of opportunity can be time for action. That is the whole basis of electional astrology.

The Jupiter return isn't necessarily a 'luck' transit, but the start of a new 12-year cycle of growth.

The Jupiter transit conjunct natal Uranus is one that can help you break free of whatever holds you back and helps you move forward with optimism, greater rewards from risk taking and an adventurous spirit.

High hopes are fulfilled mostly with willingness and action. Our words are also an ongoing conversation with the universe and action speak even louder to specify to it what we want. Jupiter can help open more doors to growth opportunities, but you have to walk through them. The benefits don't come walking in the door to you.

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posted December 02, 2018 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My jupiter return is happening right now and nothing special has happened but what I have noticed in this past month is that I have been planning and making goals etc, almost like preparing myself for a new phase of my life. The energy has been one around solidifying goals and plans and preparing for a new cycle.

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posted December 02, 2018 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
me too

I had my Jupiter Return a while ago and nothing interesting happened, absolutely blah time

I did cast a chart for the return time, and will be watching the chart to see developments during the 12 year period. Good thing is, Jupiter rules the 1st and 2nd house in the chart, so I am happy about that

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posted December 02, 2018 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:

The Jupiter return isn't necessarily a 'luck' transit, but the start of a new 12-year cycle of growth.

The Jupiter transit conjunct natal Uranus is one that can help you break free of whatever holds you back and helps you move forward with optimism, greater rewards from risk taking and an adventurous spirit.

High hopes are fulfilled mostly with willingness and action. Our words are also an ongoing conversation with the universe and action speak even louder to specify to it what we want. Jupiter can help open more doors to growth opportunities, but you have to walk through them. The benefits don't come walking in the door to you.


Thank you Kannon!

I have chart ruler jupiter conjunct uranus exact in Sag at 5d in the 12th, this week I came to the realization I need to take some risks and then started thinking about my past and how when I take risks those risks tend to be rewarded! You hit the nail there and this is the confirmation I needed. I asked god to give me a confirmation I should take those risks a few days ago. I feel I need to start taking action, that is what I have been feeling this past week, that is time, that I need to have faith, take risks and take action now. This jupiter return for me will be about taking action in ways that will help my husband become unstuck around his purpose in life since I have jupiter inconjunct juno exact I think this fits. I feel this next cycle will be about growing in my role as a wife more, I also will work on obtaining my license which I am very close to achieving that goal. Tomorrow, I am going on a three day training for group counseling in the context of substance abuse, next week I travel to see my parents and when I return I plan to purchase a car and take action to support my partner in a business idea he has that actually sounds realistic and could work but I need to change my attitude, take risks and have faith in order for this to take off. My Juno (marriage) is in the 5th, the house of small businesses and inconjuncts exact Jupiter conjunct Uranus (my chart ruler).

Anyhoo you are right on, everything you said is exactly what I have been feeling this week and my Jupiter return and chart ruler return are happening right now.

I love how you phrased it "the start of a new 12-year cycle of growth."

That last word "growth" BAM! it really resonates.

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posted December 02, 2018 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also I started exercising daily this week and my chart ruler is jupiter and I am having my return this week so that is interesting.

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posted December 02, 2018 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Kannon. I will give it some time them. I’m surely need of positive spirit. I think that after growth there should be harvest. This is also end of one 12th year cycle that has been full of work. Last year and half I have a seize many new kind of opportunities, also when I haven’t been ready. It has been difficult but I have done it anyway.

it’s too late here and I have to go to sleep..will be back tomorrow.

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posted December 02, 2018 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hu_w_ryl_A:
.. Say, you pluto is well aspected in natal with a trine to your sun and a sextile to your moon and no hard aspects, I would think that a pluto transit will generally not hurt you badly but rather promote welcomed change and growth..

So with a pluto conjunct neptune transit, you'd rather look at how pluto is natally aspected or how neptune is aspected? In this case it is pluto affecting the natal neptune or perhaps look at how they are both natally aspected?

I just start to wonder with this particular transit and smaller transits such as the jupiter return whether it will be good ,bad or nothing, if it depends on whether the ruler of either your South node sign or house has just left transiting your south node house or not. If it has left, it seems people are more propelled into their north node (though I haven't been able to check enough charts to confirm this, just a few) and the pluto conjunct neptune tends to make their dreams come true. If the ruler planet of the South node is still transiting (at least if it's a slow moving planet like pluto, neptune, uranus..) the SN house, it may not be 'possible' to get into the NN and turns the pluto conj neptune into a disappointing experience.
Other transits that should bring you more luck ( jupiter) or love may not bring much as long as someone is not yet following their NN due to transits keeping the person longer stuck in their SN.

That's what I'm speculating for now. I would be interested to see if other people see same things in theirs and other people's charts.

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posted December 02, 2018 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is real life experience on Jupiter transiting the 1st house :

A very close friend of mine was about to become a famous chef. She had a program on a TV channel. earning really good money. She was travelling for work a lot but she was partying a lot too She had a boyfriend whom she was madly in love with. The relationship was very toxic. He was cocaine addict. She was on it as well. She had the connection and the money so she was helping her friends to get some whenever they asked for it.

Jupiter entered her 1st house.

While she was shooting for the program, she received a call from cops and invited for testimony... They were accusing her to be the head dealer of a cocaine baron they had been trying to arrest for some time. She did not turn herself in, the next day she was on the newspapers. TV...

2 days later she delivered herself to government attorney with her lawyer.

Thank god, thanks to the lawyer and thanks to Jupiter, she was able to prove she was not a dealer. The court lasted for almost a year.

She lost her job, she broke up with her boyfriend, she lost some so called friends ...

sounds like a catastrophe isn't it ? In a way it was but whatever happened at that time was a blessing in disguise. she got rid of whatever toxic in her life.

also, while she was having her tower ( tarot ) year, we managed to have a lot fun. I introduced her to a new scene, new people and she found a new love whom she is happily married for 8 years now. ( a few years ago ex bf died from heart failure at the age of 32 )

so, you ll never know maybe jupiter is showering you with blessings, you are yet unaware of


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posted December 03, 2018 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^LOL Blessings in disguise must a be a Jupiter thing.

I will say I am glad I have Jupiter conjunct Uranus in the 12th, there are some risks I took in the past I feel Jupiter definitely protected me when things felt apart. Like seriously protected me and since Jupiter/Uranus inconjuncts Juno I feel my partner also benefits from that protection I feel I was born with.

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posted December 03, 2018 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
”..yesterday Jupiter conjuncted my natal Uranus (3th house) .. I got two unexpected Facebook message..”

So one of those was from a guy I dated several years ago, it didn’t end well. He just disappeared and I had to come to realise by myself that he had met someone else during the time I was away from the town for a week. And now by the time, when my Jupiter was exactly conjuring my natal Uranus, he reactivated his Facebook account and asked me to be his friend. Im explaining this because I try to understand nature of these transits.

(Other message was from a girl who was a friend of our mutual friend who committed suecide last Feb. My Uranus is transiting currently natal 8th house so I can understand why she was unexpectedly taking contact and wanted to talk about it.)

But why was he? Is it just random? Anyway I wrote to him and we talked a bit on Facebook. I don know if anyone understands this but I’m annoyed that this happened as now I’m wondering should I take this as a sign of something. Because I have feelings for him. Maybe I try to read too much of these happenings. But as Kannon pointed out there is these windows of opportunities.

Well I tried ..I don’t know ..live along. And he just stopped answering in the middle of the conversation So thank you Jupiter.

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posted December 03, 2018 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hard to tell Valmu83, do whatever you want to do, if want to give him another chance then do, if you have mixed feelings about it figure out if you feel excited about seeing him again or if you feel more like "I don't know if I want to truly" and you have your answer.

If you no longer feel excited about meeting up with him and have mixed feelings about it were you lean more towards "I don't know if I want to" then he lost the opportunity with you, the time is off now.

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posted December 03, 2018 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Him reaching out to you I bet has more do with mercury retro.

And the friend of a friend reaching out to you may also have to do with mercury retro in scorpio at 29, When did she reach out? Scorpio at 29 degree is a degree of crisis and endings. She was probably thinking of her friend who committed suicide bc of mercury retro at 29d and reached out to you perhaps.

What house is transit mercury falling in your chart right now? Is it aspecting anything in your chart? Do you have anything in your chart at late degrees in scorpio?

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posted December 03, 2018 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Him reaching out to you I bet has more do with mercury retro.

And the friend of a friend reaching out to you may also have to do with mercury retro in scorpio at 29, When did she reach out? Scorpio at 29 degree is a degree of crisis and endings. She was probably thinking of her friend who committed suicide bc of mercury retro at 29d and reached out to you perhaps.

What house is transit mercury falling in your chart right now? Is it aspecting anything in your chart? Do you have anything in your chart at late degrees in scorpio?


That might be..it didn’t occurred to me as Mercury rx effect has been very mild in my life..maybe because Mercury is my chart ruler. Mercury is transiting at 3th house and it was square to sun and sextile to asc at the time. She reached out last Saturday around 6pm. I don’t have anything in later degrees of scorpio.

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posted December 03, 2018 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sat Dec 1 mercury was in scorpio at 29 degrees RX. Interesting.

It could be mercury rx..

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posted December 07, 2018 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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