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hypatia238
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posted December 07, 2018 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
[QUOTE]He does? Oh Wow Had no idea.

Just checked his chart. I don't usually go weak in the knees for Leo Asc. But i noticed that Sun/Mercury/Venus are conjunct in Aries.

So there is a mix of Libra(Venus) and Gem/Vir(Merc) to him. I see.

He always seemed so quick witted and agile mentally. I like that. And Venus rules the 3rd house(charm).

And apparently he had a weird relationship with his Dad....Neptune in 4th. They got high together....


He seems more macho to me, manly, he is in a bunch of action movies for good reason .

Yes he seems fast and quick, that I bet has a lot to do with sun and venus in aries in the 3rd, a mercurial aries. Yes he totally feels like a mercurial aries, I agree.

He doesn't have ANYTHING in libra, I don't see libra in him at all, he has Moon and Jupiter in Taurus. Oh you mean that stellium in aries? but the stellium is in aries and he looks more aries/taurus physically with the broad forehead. Someone with libra/virgo mix would look like my type, like my ex who has venus in libra with virgo rising.

Is he gay?

Think Neil Patrick, he is a gemini with mars in pisces and has that mercury feel to him, he has like a feminine structure but appears manly and dreamy none the less. That is more my type.

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posted December 07, 2018 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Dumuzi, you are bi and your DC ruler is Mars and conjuncts neptune in the 3rd house, interesting. Then add Uranus rules your 5th, I could see how all these could play into your diverse and fluid preferences in what you find sexually attractive.

i never put any thought into the descendant ruler thing, interesting

i really have to get better at making those sorts of connections, thanks for pointing that out

but yeah when i look at people i've been with none of them resemble each other even remotely and same with people i can find attractive

i cant actually pinpoint what i like at all, but ive seen plenty of it lol

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posted December 07, 2018 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i never put any thought into the descendant ruler thing, interesting

i really have to get better at making those sorts of connections, thanks for pointing that out

but yeah when i look at people i've been with none of them resemble each other even remotely and same with people i can find attractive

i cant actually pinpoint what i like at all, but ive seen plenty of it lol


hahahahahahah "I have seen plenty of it"

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posted December 07, 2018 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
He seems more macho to me, manly, he is in a bunch of action movies for good reason .

Yes he seems fast and quick, that I bet has a lot to do with sun and venus in aries in the 3rd, a mercurial aries. Yes he totally feels like a mercurial aries, I agree.

He doesn't have ANYTHING in libra, I don't see libra in him at all, he has Moon and Jupiter in Taurus. Oh you mean that stellium in aries? but the stellium is in aries and he looks more aries/taurus physically with the broad forehead. Someone with libra/virgo mix would look like my type, like my ex who has venus in libra with virgo rising.

Is he gay?

Think Neil Patrick, he is a gemini with mars in pisces and has that mercury feel to him, he has like a feminine structure but appears manly and dreamy none the less. That is more my type.


Actually that mercurial aries vibe is why I don't like him too

He feels like he is on coke to me, edgy with too much energy and this nervous vibe, buzzing feeling. Is not my thing, my moon in pisces is like hell no hahahaha

I am glad he smokes pot, I think he needs it LOL JK

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posted December 07, 2018 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Posted about it earlier on here but gonna bring it up again... First in general, does one person's fifth house sign being the same as the others' 10th house sign suffice as to whether or not it matches the energy they're attracted to? (not referring to it being debilitated of course)

And what about the other stuff I mentioned, can anyone give me insight?

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posted December 07, 2018 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You're reminding me when we first met I asked him straight up if he's gay (lol it felt right given the conversation). He was responding pretty strongly 'no' which now that you're mentioning the Neptune aspects it makes me wonder if it wasn't him trying to make me strongly think that it's no. I feel in general that when someone responds in a different manner than the rest of his answers there's something being hidden. But dunno.

Also, he has an affinity for lesbians I realized. (Which for some reason I'm turned on by lol) That must also be the Neptune influencing his fifth house ruler - or Venus in general, plus all the Pisces in his chart which includes the seventh house ruler.

Anyway his DC Mars Pisces sits in his fifth, so I guess that would strengthen this energy he's seeking out.

I'm just wondering if I fit the Uranian bill for him lol. My MC is in Aquarius (Pisces also intercepted there) and my chart ruler is in the eleventh in Aries. My Uranus conjunct Neptune also widely opposes my first house Venus and inconjunct moon.

His seventh house Venus squares my Mars and conjunct my (chart ruler in eleventh) Mercury and his seventh house ruler Mars trines my first house Venus. Like when I think about all these aspects it's like he can't not like me lol. But I wonder if I can know for sure. I think I'm taking the guts out of this far too much. It's obsessively annoying.

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Also his Venus sextile my AC. I guess the reason I'm so captivated by him though is my Neptune squaring his AC. Just a mess whatever.


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posted December 07, 2018 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
He seems more macho to me, manly, he is in a bunch of action movies for good reason .

Yes he seems fast and quick, that I bet has a lot to do with sun and venus in aries in the 3rd, a mercurial aries. Yes he totally feels like a mercurial aries, I agree.

He doesn't have ANYTHING in libra, I don't see libra in him at all, he has Moon and Jupiter in Taurus. Oh you mean that stellium in aries? but the stellium is in aries and he looks more aries/taurus physically with the broad forehead. Someone with libra/virgo mix would look like my type, like my ex who has venus in libra with virgo rising.

Is he gay?

Think Neil Patrick, he is a gemini with mars in pisces and has that mercury feel to him, he has like a feminine structure but appears manly and dreamy none the less. That is more my type.


I understand your point of view.

Its just that to be honest. I have never found him all that "manly". I just think that Hollywood ran out of action guys who don't look like Calvin Klein minions with the acting skills of Dolph Lundgren.

I don't know if Downey is gay. But I swear I wait to hear " Darling" slip from his mouth when he is being interviewed. Especially when in the role of "Iron Man". I find him so eccentric there.

I like Neil Patrick Harris. So smart. And his hubby is also Gemini.

But I find him more " Englishman born in New York" than feminine. It could just be me. But there is sophistication with him that may make him look less "yanky" and more "gentleman in Downtown Abbey" etc. And perhaps that IS feminine?

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posted December 07, 2018 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I understand your point of view.

Its just that to be honest. I have never found him all that "manly". I just think that Hollywood ran out of action guys who don't look like Calvin Klein minions with the acting skills of Dolph Lundgren.

I don't know if Downey is gay. But I swear I wait to hear " Darling" slip from his mouth when he is being interviewed. Especially when in the role of "Iron Man". I find him so eccentric there.

I like Neil Patrick Harris. So smart. And his hubby is also Gemini.

But I find him more " Englishman born in New York" than feminine. It could just be me. But there is sophistication with him that may make him look less "yanky" and more "gentleman in Downtown Abbey" etc. And perhaps that IS feminine?


When I first saw him I suspected he was gay right away , that was my first instinct so lets both wait for that darling slip up lol

"But I find him more " Englishman born in New York" than feminine. It could just be me. But there is sophistication with him that may make him look less "yanky" and more "gentleman in Downtown Abbey" etc. And perhaps that IS feminine?"

Yeah that fits if I was a gay man, he is my guy for sure hahahahaha

Yes I think he is manly, I have a hard time describing my type... maybe the way you put is better. Like a sophisticated frame and look but with a strong manly presence.

"I just think that Hollywood ran out of action guys who don't look like Calvin Klein minions with the acting skills of Dolph Lundgren."

Touche

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posted December 07, 2018 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Posted about it earlier on here but gonna bring it up again... First in general, does one person's fifth house sign being the same as the others' 10th house sign suffice as to whether or not it matches the energy they're attracted to? (not referring to it being debilitated of course)

And what about the other stuff I mentioned, can anyone give me insight?


I am sure is an attraction factor yes like it can only help but I can never guarantee based on astrology two people will be sexually attracted to each other bc if you are not my type physically and we have real good synastry I will probably like you a lot as a person maybe even care a lot about you but won't feel a strong sexual attraction towards you or want to date you. Then there are people who don't care about looks or who don't have a type.

I feel you know when someone likes you, like what does your gut tell you and instincts?

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posted December 07, 2018 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I guess it all depends upon how you define feminine and Masculine Traits. Does being a girl with an "Edge" means a girl with short hair who just happens to prefer wearing Boy shorts and tops to bed rather than lingerie to bed, or someone who is more aggressive when it comes to following their life's ambitions and career plans?

If so, then hey... More power to the girls with an "edge" so to speak . My better half used to be a total Tomboy back in Highschool and one of the things that attracted me to her was her total no non-sense, intelligent straight shooting go get em attitude.

... That and the girl can fill out a pair of boycuts like nobody's business , but you know... Details .

While her style and attitude might have mellowed out over the years of us being together (might have been because of my bad Libra Influence ,) she still has that fire burning in her and yes its a very attractive trait to have.

Libra Venus Conjunct Pluto

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posted December 07, 2018 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My boyfriend is a Venus Virgo.

For 9 years I’ve had to dress business casual for work.its influenced my style. I try to pick clothes now that are okay for work and weekend these days to make life easier. I am usually dressed nice. For example I wore a sweater dress today.
When I was wearing a pink beach dress. He told me he had to have me now, and couldn’t take it anymore, in the early stages.
He is especially attracted to me when I look innocent and feminine. He even like the 1940’s dresses on me.

Once in a blue moon I wear sweat pants and sweaters with holes in them. He makes fun of me and won’t let me live in down.

I started wearing good quality legging with a shirt that doesn’t cover my butt to stay home or run a quick errand. That drives him crazy.
So he likes active takes care of myself look with leggings but finds my occasional sweat pants to bummy

He dislikes noticable make up on me too. Says I look better with no make up and actually means it.

He digs innocent feminine natural looks.

I doesn’t like it when I curl my hair but likes beach hair on me.

He even likes my hair in a Dutch braid. Now that surprised me.

His venus likes the madona look, not so much the wh0re. Sometimes I’ll have a few kink things in my wardrobe he protests it. But something else of him won’t if you know what I mean. So I joke with him that he puts me on a pedestal as a madona and has the madona wh0re complexity.

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posted December 07, 2018 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a Venus Pisces Aqua mars...I’ve been attracted to all kinds of guys.

Though I must say I have a thing for muscle arms on guys.
I also have a thing with guys with glasses.
My boyfriends has muscle but nothing hard core, and glasses.

He does not look macho at all. I also like handy guys and he is pretty handy don’t judge a book by its cover.

He likes sports 🙄 and new video games.

He doesn’t care that one of my best friends is gay. He has a best friend who is transgender

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posted December 07, 2018 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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For sure, it's with a lot of guys I think. (honestly who wouldn't love it lol - well maybe don't act like a complete a** to other people but...)

What about type though? Like take society away, just you and her. Do you prefer her to be rather girly or...?

And how's your chart setup, your Venus Mars Moon and fifth/seventh/eighth.


Ahh well, there are days when I have a crush on all chicks in the room. I think I have probably grown more lustier as I'm travelling through my 20's than back when I was travelling through my teenage years. What type ? Funnily I've never thought about that, I just like someone, it just happens. A few days back I liked a very feminine looking girl, but then a couple of days later I liked a chick who seemed to have a bit of an edge. The ones I've dated have always had a bit of an edge though, most were straight shooters but had a very exotic aura(aka Venus in Scorps, I'm going around the zodiac these days but Venus in Scorps are Venus in Scorps lol, I dated a Scorp Moon too). But these days I seem to be also into very feminine ones. Yeah take society away, just me and her, all alone on earth, and then we hear a knock on the door....

Venus in 5th, I definitely like them with a bit of a dignity, like a Leonine pride sort of. Despite having Venus in Pisces plus 3 more planets in Pisces, I have never been into rescuing damsels-in-distress types, perhaps Venus conjunct Saturn modified it.
Mars in 4th, I think I am a breast man more than an ass man lol, but it's not compulsory, just a preference.
Moon in 8th, I definitely love intensity.

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posted December 08, 2018 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I am sure is an attraction factor yes like it can only help but I can never guarantee based on astrology two people will be sexually attracted to each other bc if you are not my type physically and we have real good synastry I will probably like you a lot as a person maybe even care a lot about you but won't feel a strong sexual attraction towards you or want to date you. Then there are people who don't care about looks or who don't have a type.

I feel you know when someone likes you, like what does your gut tell you and instincts?


I feel he does. Actually I feel pretty certain about it. I'm just not seeing any movement from his part. Yeah I can take his Pisces Mars as an excuse, but not sure how much of an excuse that is.

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posted December 08, 2018 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My boyfriend is a Venus Virgo.

For 9 years I’ve had to dress business casual for work.its influenced my style. I try to pick clothes now that are okay for work and weekend these days to make life easier. I am usually dressed nice. For example I wore a sweater dress today.
When I was wearing a pink beach dress. He told me he had to have me now, and couldn’t take it anymore, in the early stages.
He is especially attracted to me when I look innocent and feminine. He even like the 1940’s dresses on me.

Once in a blue moon I wear sweat pants and sweaters with holes in them. He makes fun of me and won’t let me live in down.

I started wearing good quality legging with a shirt that doesn’t cover my butt to stay home or run a quick errand. That drives him crazy.
So he likes active takes care of myself look with leggings but finds my occasional sweat pants to bummy

He dislikes noticable make up on me too. Says I look better with no make up and actually means it.

He digs innocent feminine natural looks.

I doesn’t like it when I curl my hair but likes beach hair on me.

He even likes my hair in a Dutch braid. Now that surprised me.

His venus likes the madona look, not so much the wh0re. Sometimes I’ll have a few kink things in my wardrobe he protests it. But something else of him won’t if you know what I mean. So I joke with him that he puts me on a pedestal as a madona and has the madona wh0re complexity.


Interesting, always wondering what causes a guy to love that innocent look. What aspects his Venus and where's his Venus at?

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posted December 08, 2018 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I feel he does. Actually I feel pretty certain about it. I'm just not seeing any movement from his part. Yeah I can take his Pisces Mars as an excuse, but not sure how much of an excuse that is.

Thing is there's past drama which I'm not sure if it's too much for him to deal with or he lost interest due to it.

I can feel his interest is still there. But part of him doesn't want it to surface again. (I mean neither do I) Like is there a way for me to trigger his Mars? I don't wanna come on too strong. I want it to feel natural to him.

Like I need guidance I guess.

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posted December 08, 2018 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand your frustration Brenda, Mars in Pisces is super sexy, charming, easy to get along with and fun BUT is easy for them to let something go even if they are or were interested. I wonder if with venus in the 7th, similar to venus in libra he is used to girls coming to him and making the first move perhaps making his mars in pisces even less inclined to fight for things he wants bc he has learned he doesn't need to, idk. I feel mars in pisces lives day by day and doesn't stress too much. They can really want something and then they have moved on bc it was too complicated lol. IDK anyways but that is a bit of the impression this placement has given me.

I think your guy with venus in aries in the 7th is use to women been direct so perhaps make the first move, his strategy might be to go with the flow and let the girl make the moves.

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posted December 08, 2018 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I understand your frustration Brenda, Mars in Pisces is super sexy, charming, easy to get along with and fun BUT is easy for them to let something go even if they are or were interested. I wonder if with venus in the 7th, similar to venus in libra he is used to girls coming to him and making the first move perhaps making his mars in pisces even less inclined to fight for things he wants bc he has learned he doesn't need to, idk. I feel mars in pisces lives day by day and doesn't stress too much. They can really want something and then they have moved on bc it was too complicated lol. IDK anyways but that is a bit of the impression this placement has given me.

I think your guy with venus in aries in the 7th is use to women been direct so perhaps make the first move, his strategy might be to go with the flow and let the girl make the moves.


Thing is I did make the move, but rather just hinted at him that he should take it from here lol. (It was more me telling him when I did that he should hit me up during the week, like there's no reason for him not to. He responded 'I will' with a heart emoji which he always uses, not sure if that's an out for him.

Thing is as I said, like a year ago still when he hit me up I used it as an opportunity to confront him about something. And I feel that he's kinda expecting to get it again from me lol.

Reason why I think so is just a couple of weeks ago I was upfront about me liking him. He took it surprisingly well. He called me. I didn't expect the call, so jokingly said 'can't just call me, you gotta give me a heads up'. Lol he started stumbling upon his words. It was funny, but I think he didn't take it too well which I only realized later. But then he bounced back all was cool. He told me to hit him up anytime. He sent me a heart emoji after our phone conversation, which as I said I feel he just uses it whenever so I just didn't respond. (I guess that's where his Venus Aries squares my Cancer Mars)

I'm guessing he feels restricted by my energy, not sure. (in composite, Saturn squares Venus and in synastry my Saturn opposes his moon)

So yeah I feel kinda tied. Like I know he has it within him to do something about it, he just continuously gets thrown off by me which I don't even realize till after the fact.

Also, by him telling me to hit him up, is he just being Libra aka nice about it or does he genuinely want me to hit him up? I'm over-analyzing it I know. I should probably just let it flow, but...

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posted December 10, 2018 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Interesting, always wondering what causes a guy to love that innocent look. What aspects his Venus and where's his Venus at?

His Virgo is 6 degrees and in retrograde.
He has a Virgo stellulum: rising, Mars and Mercury too

His not sure if his Venus is in the 12 house or 1st house

I’ll have to get back to you on his planet aspects

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posted December 11, 2018 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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His Virgo is 6 degrees and in retrograde.
He has a Virgo stellulum: rising, Mars and Mercury too

His not sure if his Venus is in the 12 house or 1st house

I’ll have to get back to you on his planet aspects


I think it would make sense with Pisces being his DC. Where's his Jupiter/Neptune at, and any aspects it makes to personal planets?

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