posted December 22, 2018 06:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
What is the orb you look at? When I met my guy, pMoon was conjunct our composite 11H Jupiter at 4° (we met through a friend and it was a night of spontaneous fun). pMoon was also in sextile to our 1H stellium but the orb is probably too wide (6°+).

Since 4mths ago, pMoon starts to form a sextile to composite Saturn and quincunx Uranus. What I observed is we started to go through some turbulence that threatens to break us up but somehow we have also glued in a tighter emotional bond with the relationship taking on a more serious tone. pMoon is also going to closely quincunx True Node soon... I wonder what that will bring?

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In synastry I don't care about orbs but in natal and composite progressions I do look at the time of a completion of an aspect.

You said for example that on the day you met your boyfriend the progressed composite Moon applied to a conjunction with Jupiter with a 4° orb.
Did something noteworthy happen, when the aspect was exact? Like becoming officially a couple or letting your friends and family know that you're a couple?

You could also check what happened when the Moon completed the sextiles to each of the planets in the H1 stellium. Also look at what houses in the composite these planets rule.

Look also at the transits on the day you met your boyfriend and see if any of the progressed composite aspects were repeated in the transits.

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
We do like each other but nothing more than friends... that's why we've never tried anything throughout our 10-yr friendship. We get along well and often hang out together (mostly as a group). Why we kissed is because a friend encouraged us to get together since we get along so well so we thought, "Ya, why not? And see where it takes us.." So we tried but no spark, which only serves to confirm our feelings (haha).

I don't deny this aspect shows compatibility but it doesn't necessarily show attraction and this has been my point all along. It didn't work for me IRL no matter what the theory says. I can cite you another Taurus Moon guy friend as example if you want.

My first ex has Sun/Mercury in the same sign as my Dsc which is also the same sign as my Moon and NN. His Moon is also in the same sign as my Asc & Venus and oppose my Moon. His Mars is in the same sign as my Sun/Moon midpoint. My Mars is the same sign as his NN. This is the most puzzling because we're extremely incompatible (arguments non-stop and he was very cruel to me). The relationship was short-lived and I ended up hating him.

With another 2 guys none of our signs are the same so no conjunctions. One of them has his Moon/Mercury/Venus square my Sun by sign but we have a lot of trines and sextiles between Moon-Moon, Moon-Venus, Venus-Venus, Mars-Mars etc. These 2 relationships feel much more comfortable to me and I can certainly see myself long-term with them. Attraction also strong...in fact, stronger than with my first ex. One of them we have Saturn conjunct Mars and with both we have Moon-Mars hard aspects which are in your list.

Maybe it's just me... maybe I seek a different type of relationship... but some traditional aspects didn't work for me in terms of romantic dept.

I noticed you didn't mention Moons and Venuses in harmonious aspects like trines and sextiles... aren't they compatibility factor more so than squares? I never actually get along on a deep emotional level with people whose Moons square mine actually. Oh, but you took the data from only 5 couples...

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You said the Sun/Moon interaspect didn't work for you as you expected it. And my point all along was that one aspect alone won't do it.
I don't know the whole synastry between the two of you but let's say if his Sun were in the same sign as your Dsc ruler, you would feel much more attracted to him. And let's say you do have this interaspect, maybe the progressed composite doesn't show the relationship taking off ever.

If you want that instant attraction thing to happen you would have to meet someone that has their Asc ruler conjunct your Descendant. You would think that this person is perfect for you even if it fizzles out later due to the lack of other supporting interaspects.

And I didn't say that my sample was 5 couples. I said that you could look at 5 couples from your surroundings to see if the interaspects from my list come up.

I don't look at the soft aspects in synastry. They don't mean much.
I look at the conjunctions, squares and oppositions, the ten bodies, the Asc/Dsc axis and its rulers. You don't need more to see whether two people are compatible and will have a meaningful relationship.

The hard aspects bring higher tension but also more depth and emotional investment.

I also always look at the natal charts first before looking at the synastry.
There could be two Aries Ascendant females with different tastes in men although both have their Descendant in Libra but their Dsc ruler Venus might be in completely different signs.

People with a lot of hard contacts to their Dsc ruler in the natal are going to have a much harder time to find the perfect mate than someone who has less or soft aspects to their Dsc ruler.

Venus as Dsc ruler in Virgo wants Virgo qualities in a partner. If the same Venus is square Saturn, then the person also wants Cap energy. Venus is conjunct Mars, the person wants also Aries in a mate. On top of that, Venus opposes Moon. So the person not only wants Virgo but also Cap, Aries and Cancer energy in a mate.
Maybe the Venus person finds someone with all that but in return the Venus person must fulfil all the needs their mate might have.

You see how complicated it gets?

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
No to all your qns about my Dad. His only planet in Aqua is Ceres in 10H. Nothing in his 1H. His Asc ruler (Mars) does not aspect Uranus and it's in 8H. Sun in Scorpio.
First marriage for both and no, they've never lived apart.

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Your father must have a lot of mirroring aspects to the placements of your mother to override such a big placement as Uranus on the Descendant in your mother's chart. She might not said it but she probably feels this lack of Uranian energy in your father's chart.

One last redeeming option
Is your father some sort of engineer or in an innovative technical field?

posted December 22, 2018 10:22 AM            

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Originally posted by HelixID:
Did something noteworthy happen, when the aspect was exact? Like becoming officially a couple or letting your friends and family know that you're a couple?

You could also check what happened when the Moon completed the sextiles to each of the planets in the H1 stellium. Also look at what houses in the composite these planets rule.

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We haven't met yet at that time but it was the time he just ended his last relationship.

Same as when pMoon forms exact sextile to our first house Cancer stellium. We haven't met yet. Is it strange?

When we met t.Moon was semi-square Composite Jupiter at 1deg.

As for my ex...I don't know how you define "taking off" becos we were officially a couple and we even met both set of parents. As for attraction, he was more attracted to me and pursued me for months before I accepted him. I wish I had his ToB to see more.

My Dsc ruler is Jupiter in 11th house which trines my Moon/Neptune in 7th, squares Saturn in 2nd, opp Pluto in 5th, sextile Asc. What kind of man will I like or need? I'll probably take this as a blueprint for my next man.

posted December 22, 2018 05:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
We haven't met yet at that time but it was the time he just ended his last relationship.

Same as when pMoon forms exact sextile to our first house Cancer stellium. We haven't met yet. Is it strange

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So those were all separating aspects then?
Hmm...don't know what to make of this.
But it's interesting that the exact conjunction happened when he broke off another relationship.
What does Jupiter rule in your composite?

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
When we met t.Moon was semi-square Composite Jupiter at 1deg.

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I meant that you look at the aspects in the progressed composite and then see if such an aspect was repeated in the transits. Not to see what transiting planet conjuncted a progressed composite planet.
You had progressed composite Moon conjunct composite Jupiter. Was there any configuration between Moon and Jupiter that day in the transits, for example?

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
As for my ex...I don't know how you define "taking off" becos we were officially a couple and we even met both set of parents. As for attraction, he was more attracted to me and pursued me for months before I accepted him. I wish I had his ToB to see more.

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I meant the other guy, the one you have been friends with for then years.
The progressed composite between the two of you probably doesn't show relationship potential but you could look what the progressed composite was on the day you two kissed.

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
My Dsc ruler is Jupiter in 11th house which trines my Moon/Neptune in 7th, squares Saturn in 2nd, opp Pluto in 5th, sextile Asc. What kind of man will I like or need? I'll probably take this as a blueprint for my next man.

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These are the signs of your natal planets?

Jupiter - Aries
Moon - Sag
Neptune - Sag
Saturn - Cancer
Pluto - Libra

Then you have Sun in Taurus, Venus in Gemini.
Which sign are Mercury and Mars in?
Is your Venus in H1 or H12?

Oh boy, so much going on...

I would've told you to disregard the Moon and Neptune trines but both planets are in H7 so they matter a lot.

The Jupiter-Saturn-Pluto t-square restricts you in the choice of a mate. You could take someone born in 1981 when all three of them were in Libra. A Libra Ascendant would have all three in H1.
You need Pisces, Taurus, Cancer and Aquarius, too.

It is hard to find a chart that fulfils all that.
One possibility would be someone born on the following date with a Pisces Ascendant: March 27, 1975

The Aries Sun is part of the t-square, it's opposite Moon and with Pisces Ascendant and Aqua Mars you have all signs covered even your Taurus Sun would be mirrored with his Sun being in H2.

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Maybe I should post my parents' charts and you can have a look. Lol.

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posted December 22, 2018 09:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Yup yup..is he consider Uranian?

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I would think you'd see him as Uranian too? Like do you see him as being the opposite?

posted December 23, 2018 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by HelixID:
What does Jupiter rule in your composite?

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Jupiter rules 7th house in our composite and falls in our 11th.

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Originally posted by HelixID:
I meant that you look at the aspects in the progressed composite and then see if such an aspect was repeated in the transits. Not to see what transiting planet conjuncted a progressed composite planet.
You had progressed composite Moon conjunct composite Jupiter. Was there any configuration between Moon and Jupiter that day in the transits, for example?

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Sorry if I got confused. Let's start over... Are you asking about aspects within the progressed composite chart? If yes, then pMoon was conjunct pJupiter at 2° when we met. When pMoon and pJupiter was at 1° we became officially involved... and about 1mth later the aspect became exact.

And if you're talking about Moon-Jupiter aspects within the transit chart itself...On the day we met tMoon was sesqui tJupiter exact. It became a trine at 5° when we got officially involved.

I hope I answered correctly this time.

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Originally posted by HelixID:
I meant the other guy, the one you have been friends with for then years.

The progressed composite between the two of you probably doesn't show relationship potential but you could look what the progressed composite was on the day you two kissed

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Oh..haha.. I don't have his ToB so it won't be accurate? I also forgot the date.

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Originally posted by HelixID:
These are the signs of your natal planets?

Jupiter - Aries
Moon - Sag
Neptune - Sag
Saturn - Cancer
Pluto - Libra

Then you have Sun in Taurus, Venus in Gemini.
Which sign are Mercury and Mars in?
Is your Venus in H1 or H12?

Oh boy, so much going on...

I would've told you to disregard the Moon and Neptune trines but both planets are in H7 so they matter a lot.

The Jupiter-Saturn-Pluto t-square restricts you in the choice of a mate. You could take someone born in 1981 when all three of them were in Libra. A Libra Ascendant would have all three in H1.
You need Pisces, Taurus, Cancer and Aquarius, too.

It is hard to find a chart that fulfils all that.
One possibility would be someone born on the following date with a Pisces Ascendant: March 27, 1975

The Aries Sun is part of the t-square, it's opposite Moon and with Pisces Ascendant and Aqua Mars you have all signs covered even your Taurus Sun would be mirrored with his Sun being in H2.

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Wow, so specific. And where am I gonna find this man?! I need to place an ad.

I've Mercury in Taurus; Mars in Pisces. Venus is in H1.

Why would Jupiter-Saturn-Pluto t-square restrict my choice of a mate? I have 2 more t-squares involving Moon, Venus, Mars. Another one Neptune, Venus, Mars.

Btw, are you familiar with pattern completions in synastry? If yes, pls drop us some advice here. - http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/008607.html

So far I realised that I've always attracted people with Cancer placements, not so much Taurus, Pisces, Aqua. These all ended up as friends somehow. Aqua Mars somehow doesn't gel with my Pisces Mars.

posted December 23, 2018 12:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I would think you'd see him as Uranian too? Like do you see him as being the opposite?

Although you're right there are only soft aspects, I'd still think it'd be obvious? It's aspecting his rising as well (although I recall you don't have his exact ToB so might not be the case afterall).

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I feel the more Libra/Cancer side of him actually... likes to social...craves companion/partnerships...very peace-loving but can also be argumentative, caring, etc... His Uranian side is probably more like... he can be socialising one minute and the next moment he wonders off alone.