posted December 25, 2018 07:06 PM            

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Originally posted by aamhz:

Would you mind posting your chart? Perhaps since Saturn restricts/minimizes what it touches, that may cause your Sun qualities (i.e. sign) to be suppressed - but there might be more.

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posted December 25, 2018 07:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Its a fine line. I can't tell you that you are something that you know that you are not.

But in the same breath, I could tell you something that you never thought yourself to be. Only to find that what I said is indeed how you may be etc.

I often don't try to engage people in astrology until I have felt them out.

One person will deny everything. Say you are "wrong". Absolutely nothing you say is them.Nothing.

Then later on they will say " I think you may have had a point there when you said...." Etc.

I think some level of self awareness is necessary. Not involving ones ego in analysing another is needed. So I don't make a great astrologer.

As I would want to enquire and find out how and why I am wrong. And some people can send you on a verbal loop. Only to come out from the opposite side and say "you were right all along" etc.

I told a Virgo Moon friend that I think that he would be excellent at forensics.He doesn't miss a THING. As he was thinking of studying further.

I only mentioned this in passing and casually. I thought he would do more research and find out more for himself etc. But he clapped back quickly.

He argued with me about the profession and went into great detail as to why he would be all wrong for it.

Three hours into it, I got a headache from listening and said that we should just leave it alone. He can do whatever he wants.

Later that same year he asked me for career advice again. That he had actually looked up forensics and found it fascinating. So he wondered which he would be good at I.e commerce or criminal? And I said "I don't know"

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i know myself pretty well, and i'm not particularly concerned with how i come off to people so it's not a matter of building an image

the attention to detail **** is lost on me, i'm not particularly observant to begin with and i have a tendency to be lazy and overlook things

to a point where other people point out that i'm bad with that sort of thing, just like other people no i'm disorganized can't plan things for **** etc

i'm not a particularly anxious person, only when i was on pcp and in a bad living situation aside from that, but nah

i have a shitload of health problems (not stress related) and regularly feel things that most people would go to a hospital over and even that doesn't make me anxious because i figure everything will be fine

my life has played out in a way where i feel like the only logical thing to believe in is fate so i figure i'm always where i need to be and life will go the way it's going so it's cool no sense in worrying about **** that's inevitable

i have ocd, so there's that, but my mother only has a virgo north node and does so i wouldnt necessarily blame it on my sun

posted December 26, 2018 12:28 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I am not a stereotypical virgo and I don't have saturn aspecting my sun or mercury. If anything Saturn aspecting sun in virgo would generate those supposedly virgo qualities like worrying too much and been too self-critical.

Sag is my strongest sign and both my sun and moon aspect Neptune in sag and I have southnode and AC in sag plus my mercury in virgo falls in my 9th.

I am not a clean freak who is obsessed with having an assigned spot for everything in their house, I have Aries on my IC, not virgo on my IC! LOL and I don't have virgo rising either, people have this idea that virgos are a certain way really have to look at the whole chart. We do tend to be hard working, responsible, practical and analytical and are big on personal responsibility, we tend to be independent too but not all of us are neurotic worriers with OCD, and quite frankly this stereotype is super annoying as many markers (aspects like having both mercury square saturn and uranus can lead to a restless mind conducive to negative thinking) have to show UP in the chart to point to an anxious personality or someone who has OCD tendencies, I also don't have an obsession with details or organization or am super picky Sorry is just not the case.

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i don't really worry about anything because i'm usually not thinking about anything in particular and i don't really criticize myself either

i acknowledge where i can be wrong but i figure anyone can be and if i can forgive it in other people there's no sense in beating myself up for it so it doesn't really matter one way or another

more just hope i'm not wrong but if i am i'll have to deal with it i guess

not particularly hard working either i can be honest about that, i tend to find work routine and boring and it drives me crazy really

not particularly responsible either or organized

and it's not that i'm a clean freak because i'm messy when it's just myself and my fiancee it's that i don't care for being able to feel most people's energy when they leave

and i feel like they do it completely by accident but i find it unnerving all the same

so while i don't mind if my fiancee leaves a bowl on the floor for a week or however long it ends up being wherever i really ******* hate it when most people are in my space and touch anything or leave anything

also can't have digital clocks in the bedroom, especially not facing the bed

but that's a matter of sleep paralysis

stay up to watch the sunrise if i'm really depressed

so i'm definitely neurotic in that sense, but i'm not critical about it everyone has their **** and i can keep it to just my personal space

i think the only time i ever get anxious is if someone gets too close to me while i'm washing dishes, but that's just... i know why that is

pretty sure it doesn't count as being an anxious person in general

and people can tell me anything and i honestly don't give a ****

i'd react the same to someone telling me they killed someone once as i would to someone telling me about walking their dog in the park, and i wouldn't necessarily think anything of it or them depending on how that went

i'm picky, but only about voices

if i hate someone's voice i can't speak to them, don't care what they have to say or what they look like if i find their voice grating they're dead to me

i have a few of the terrible qualities but not enough to relate to that more than anyone can relate to anything i would imagine

i think that's why i find aspects and houses more interesting than signs, they say more and the signs can change but still paint the same picture

like tropical to sidereal

posted December 26, 2018 05:42 PM            

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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I think the Virgos with Leo placements are the least Virgo-like I've seen. I have two Virgo friends with Leo stuff and they are not Virgo-like at all. They look like Virgos but don't act much like the other Virgos in my life. Maybe that is what OP picked up when looking through Virgo charts and not seeing it click in the details and also what some other people commenting seem to be noticing in their own charts.

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posted December 29, 2018 12:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i don't really worry about anything because i'm usually not thinking about anything in particular and i don't really criticize myself either

i acknowledge where i can be wrong but i figure anyone can be and if i can forgive it in other people there's no sense in beating myself up for it so it doesn't really matter one way or another

more just hope i'm not wrong but if i am i'll have to deal with it i guess

not particularly hard working either i can be honest about that, i tend to find work routine and boring and it drives me crazy really

not particularly responsible either or organized

and it's not that i'm a clean freak because i'm messy when it's just myself and my fiancee it's that i don't care for being able to feel most people's energy when they leave

and i feel like they do it completely by accident but i find it unnerving all the same

so while i don't mind if my fiancee leaves a bowl on the floor for a week or however long it ends up being wherever i really ******* hate it when most people are in my space and touch anything or leave anything

also can't have digital clocks in the bedroom, especially not facing the bed

but that's a matter of sleep paralysis

stay up to watch the sunrise if i'm really depressed

so i'm definitely neurotic in that sense, but i'm not critical about it everyone has their **** and i can keep it to just my personal space

i think the only time i ever get anxious is if someone gets too close to me while i'm washing dishes, but that's just... i know why that is

pretty sure it doesn't count as being an anxious person in general

and people can tell me anything and i honestly don't give a ****

i'd react the same to someone telling me they killed someone once as i would to someone telling me about walking their dog in the park, and i wouldn't necessarily think anything of it or them depending on how that went

i'm picky, but only about voices

if i hate someone's voice i can't speak to them, don't care what they have to say or what they look like if i find their voice grating they're dead to me

i have a few of the terrible qualities but not enough to relate to that more than anyone can relate to anything i would imagine

i think that's why i find aspects and houses more interesting than signs, they say more and the signs can change but still paint the same picture

like tropical to sidereal

when i read i usually don't look at the signs, just whatever stands out to me and then whatever feeling i get from it

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Hey Dumuzi!

You know something we have in common we both have our Chart ruler placements at home, I feel that probably gives you a strong Libra presence and gives me a strong Sag presence. Venus in libra opposite Moon rules your chart and Jupiter in Sag conjunct Uranus rules mine. Neither of us has lets say mercury in virgo ruling our chart or sun in virgo ruling our chart.