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ChildofVenus
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posted December 25, 2018 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My Mom has Mars in Cancer. Never heard she said she experienced violence between parents/at home, but she is very veeeerrry a strictly person. She told me she grew up with highly discipliners parents.

My brother has Mars in Cancer. No violence at home. My Pisces Mars Dad is too afraid to hurt anyone. But we live with strict rules made by my Mom.

My husband has Mars in Cancer, in his childhood his parents involved in domestic violence.. He even had a real fight with his Dad when he tried to stop him, who was under alcohol influence, beating his Mom. His Dad has Mars in Cancer too.

My daughter has Moon in Cancer. 4 days after she was born, I and my husband had already in a fight where he pushed me to the wall and tried to choke me as I said I wanted a divorce. When she was a month old, we were into another argument and the same thing happened while I was holding her in my arms. I was thinking since then. When she was two months old, I took her leaving him. I didn't see that he wanted to make our relationship healthy and I didn't want risking my daughter's childhood.


Wow so men with this placement can be violent?

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posted December 27, 2018 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in Cancer and Mars in Cancer here
To answer the OP
NOPE perfectly healthy upbringing here

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posted December 28, 2018 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PurpleBebe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 5 y/o nephew has a Mars in Cancer. I am close to my sister (his mother) and as far as I know, there is nothing violent going on in her household. I think the only danger he will ever experience is in growing too spoilt and prone to getting his way, because he is the only child, and also the only grandchild, so yes he gets a lot of love (and toys) and his future will be stable and protected, so to speak. But I think this is largely due to his Leo Sun and Moon, I mean, he is definitely a Leonine character and all of our energy seem to be focused on him in a way that allows him to "shine".

I think his Mars in Cancer shows in the relationship that he has with my sister. He is very attached to my sister and my sister, bless her, also seems to have difficulty in letting go? Tears come very easily to him. In daycare, he is well-known for crying his crocodile tears when he doesn't want to do certain things that the other children are doing.

I know a man with a Moon in Cancer, and while we can get along, I find that he can emotionally manipulate people to think or feel the way he wants them to. He has a longtime girlfriend whom he intends to marry one day, but he does not seem to have a nice thing to say about her. I have not met her, so I don't know her outside of what he tells me, and so I find his actions dishonourable. He does love his mother very much, and he would visit her every day after work and have dinner together with her (she cooks). When he and his girlfriend marry, his mother will move in with them. Right now, he is looking for a place that is big enough for them all and any future children.

This is also slightly off topic, but I remember reading somewhere that most men with Cancer energy in their birth charts find themselves drawn to MMA. One MMA trainer I know has a Cancer Sun, and another trainer a Cancer Venus. They have a lovely gentle energy about them, but the one thing in common that I noticed is that they like talking about their emotions and how they have been mistreated / misunderstood, and I can see how this can be attractive for women who might be drawn into fixing them and making their lives easier.

TL;DR: Have not encountered any Cancer Moon or Mars individuals who experienced physical violence when they were growing up. But what I have observed is that they can be emotionally manipulative and they love their mommy very much.

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posted January 04, 2019 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Wow so men with this placement can be violent?

Yes, not all, but they often get involved in a domestic violence.

You also need to see if the Mars making a hard aspect to Moon. The impulsive behavior can make it worse.

Although usually they feel guilty after they have done something destructive, but later they try to blame you for their uncontrollable anger.

Mars in Cancer is hard in men than women, I see.

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posted January 04, 2019 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, not all, but they often get involved in a domestic violence.

You also need to see if the Mars making a hard aspect to Moon. The impulsive behavior can make it worse.

Although usually they feel guilty after they have done something destructive, but later they try to blame you for their uncontrollable anger.

Mars in Cancer is hard in men than women, I see.



Could it be a possibility for the men to become a victim of domestic violence in a relationship? I'm sure it would depend on synastry aspects as well. Yes I think this placement tends to be worse with men. My mom has this placement and she can be hard to deal with. She really cares a lot about babies and kids. She'll really go out of her way to help them. But she has Mercury in Gemini conjunct Mars in Cancer. She gets
volatile when upset and will want to fight.

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posted January 04, 2019 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted January 04, 2019 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Could it be a possibility for the men to become a victim of domestic violence in a relationship? I'm sure it would depend on synastry aspects as well. Yes I think this placement tends to be worse with men. My mom has this placement and she can be hard to deal with. She really cares a lot about babies and kids. She'll really go out of her way to help them. But she has Mercury in Gemini conjunct Mars in Cancer. She gets
volatile when upset and will want to fight.

The men become the victim? Never heard one, but the women, I have heard some, my ex boss is also a Cancer mars who tells me about her past failed marriage. Her ex husband has been remarried but she doesn't want to anymore.

With all those Cancer mars people surrounds me, I see that they have volatile emotions and it depends on them whether they try to repressed it or they become physically violent towards you. It's like a big tidal wave of emotions, they are very emotional people.

My Mom (Sun conjunct Saturn) is an Aries moon and Cancer Mars, not making an aspect, she is never a stable person. She will be yelling at you if she needs to tell you twice. Funny though, I also have Aries moon but absolutely hate yelling at other people and hate being in angry mood. I and my Mom have a difficult relationship too. I think I am the only child who receive a physical punishment when I was a kid and she would did it in front of other children to make an example. It makes me become more rebellious towards her. Once I get out from the house, she expects me to tell her everything, no, she expects me being whiney so she can connect and I am not. It's easy for me being a black duck in the house, a small mistake looks like a huge mistake and you can not be too honest/excited with her as she sees it as rude.

Yes, Mercury conjunct Mars will always want to fight you in an argument or if they are in a bad mood. My Cancer mars husband has that aspect, he has a hard time to calm down once triggered, his volatile emotions just blurts out. He fights everyone who tries to cross him or he thinks would cross him. He has no "cool head" to deal with problems. He can blow out of proportion about anything. His Moon/Mars hard aspect doesn't help either. I think that's why he doesn't want to let me go as I have Saturn soft aspect to moon and mercury. He is attracted to our differences.

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posted January 04, 2019 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The men become the victim? Never heard one, but the women, I have heard some, my ex boss is also a Cancer mars who tells me about her past failed marriage. Her ex husband has been remarried but she doesn't want to anymore.

With all those Cancer mars people surrounds me, I see that they have volatile emotions and it depends on them whether they try to repressed it or they become physically violent towards you. It's like a big tidal wave of emotions, they are very emotional people.

My Mom (Sun conjunct Saturn) is an Aries moon and Cancer Mars, not making an aspect, she is never a stable person. She will be yelling at you if she needs to tell you twice. Funny though, I also have Aries moon but absolutely hate yelling at other people and hate being in angry mood. I and my Mom have a difficult relationship too. I think I am the only child who receive a physical punishment when I was a kid and she would did it in front of other children to make an example. It makes me become more rebellious towards her. Once I get out from the house, she expects me to tell her everything, no, she expects me being whiney so she can connect and I am not. It's easy for me being a black duck in the house, a small mistake looks like a huge mistake and you can not be too honest/excited with her as she sees it as rude.

Yes, Mercury conjunct Mars will always want to fight you in an argument or if they are in a bad mood. My Cancer mars husband has that aspect, he has a hard time to calm down once triggered, his volatile emotions just blurts out. He fights everyone who tries to cross him or he thinks would cross him. He has no "cool head" to deal with problems. He can blow out of proportion about anything. His Moon/Mars hard aspect doesn't help either. I think that's why he doesn't want to let me go as I have Saturn soft aspect to moon and mercury. He is attracted to our differences.


Has your husband ever got physical with you during an argument? I've been talking to someone with Mercury and Mars conjunct in Cancer. After reading this I think maybe I should just avoid them. I have a tight Moon parallel Saturn aspect, Mercury trine Saturn and Mercury in Aries sextile Mars in Gemini. Sometimes I get really upset when I argue. But it's not to the point where I want to get physical. When my mom and I have it out sometimes she threatens to hit or jump on me as she says lol. Sometimes I think she goes insane lol. But she's this way with everyone she argues with. And she says anything that she wants to say has no filter. And I'm the one who calms her down when she get's all worked up.

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posted January 04, 2019 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister has a 10th house Cancer Moon. Our father is overly aggressive and has been emotional/physically abusive (Mars in Gemini on ASC, Cancer Saturn, Leo Sun, Sag Moon). My sister has never had a good grip on her emotions and over-dramatizes everything she does, while also trying to ignore and numb everything she doesn't want to deal with (Moon-Saturn in Cancer with Virgo ASC).

She once flipped on my dad and tried hitting him in the neck with a copper cooking pan. My dad reacted and yanked her back by her hair, going after her as she kept screaming "Get away from me, I'm sorry!!" She is only 14. Though note she also has Gemini Mars opposite Pluto exact (Mars conj. Venus in Gemini).

As someone with Moon-Pluto exact, 8th house Moon, Mars-ASC in Scorpio exact, it's pretty normal for me anymore. I would pretty much explode like a volcano when I was younger but I'm much more in control with it. My dad is really harsh with her most of the time but she also brings it on herself (a rebellious child that's gotten into too much trouble). The day my mom died she took her phone and went on Snapchat to message random boys at school, boys she has gotten into trouble with at the school.

However, my mom was also a Cancer Moon (in 4th conjunct NN exact). Her mom had alcohol problems in childhood and she never was told she was loved by her dad until she was 21.

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posted January 05, 2019 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in Cancer tightly conjunct my MC and Mercury (and square AC, opposite Neptune, square NN, sextile Moon, trine Pluto... it's probably the most aspected point in my chart).

My childhood was in no way violent, it was idyllic even... and I still have very close loving relationships with my parents.

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posted January 07, 2019 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Has your husband ever got physical with you during an argument? I've been talking to someone with Mercury and Mars conjunct in Cancer. After reading this I think maybe I should just avoid them. I have a tight Moon parallel Saturn aspect, Mercury trine Saturn and Mercury in Aries sextile Mars in Gemini. Sometimes I get really upset when I argue. But it's not to the point where I want to get physical. When my mom and I have it out sometimes she threatens to hit or jump on me as she says lol. Sometimes I think she goes insane lol. But she's this way with everyone she argues with. And she says anything that she wants to say has no filter. And I'm the one who calms her down when she get's all worked up.

He starts laying his hands on me since his infidelity known by a lot of people including his female friends who are under his radar at that time. He has Cap moon, saving face is VERY important to him. But it doesn't happen in every argument.

After marriage, every argument will lead to his hands on me or he tries to threaten me with his hands ready at me.

The anger of Mars in Cancer is like a tidal wave of emotions, and when it conjunct the Mercury, it's like the hurricane. The Moon/Mars hard aspect, he doesn't care if his actions/words are destructive at the moment and it usually does.

I can see that Cancer Mars people around me need some control. They like people who obey what they want from other people, if not, the manipulation can be their weapon. They are sweet but this Mars is under the CRAB sign, they like to pinch you hard due to their sensitivity.

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posted January 07, 2019 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He starts laying his hands on me since his infidelity known by a lot of people including his female friends who are under his radar at that time. He has Cap moon, saving face is VERY important to him. But it doesn't happen in every argument.

After marriage, every argument will lead to his hands on me or he tries to threaten me with his hands ready at me.

The anger of Mars in Cancer is like a tidal wave of emotions, and when it conjunct the Mercury, it's like the hurricane. The Moon/Mars hard aspect, he doesn't care if his actions/words are destructive at the moment and it usually does.

I can see that Cancer Mars people around me need some control. They like people who obey what they want from other people, if not, the manipulation can be their weapon. They are sweet but this Mars is under the CRAB sign, they like to pinch you hard due to their sensitivity.


Are you saying that they like for people to obey them? I know all to well about Mercury/Mars you are correct it is a hurricane. When my mother and I argue it’s so insane. I can never win a argument with her. She ALWAYS threatens to get physical.

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posted January 07, 2019 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@hearttreasure are you still with this guy? I hope not.

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posted January 08, 2019 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Are you saying that they like for people to obey them? I know all to well about Mercury/Mars you are correct it is a hurricane. When my mother and I argue it’s so insane. I can never win a argument with her. She ALWAYS threatens to get physical.

I see them that way, as they will threaten you if something doesn't go as they want or being a passive aggressive a*sh*le (Mars in Libra wins the trophy for being a passive aggressive though). With Mars in Cancer, disagreement (and criticism: alert alert alert) can easily make you an enemy to them at the moment as they are highly defensive people (almost similar to defensiveness of Aries, so when Cancer and Aries reaction collide especially when they are being opposite, it's like a bomb).

Yes, Mercury/Mars people doesn't like loosing in an argument. They are very interesting people actually as they are smart and not boring for sure, but it seems like they always want to fight in a conversation even if there is no battlefield, they like to create it.

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@hearttreasure are you still with this guy? I hope not.

We're living separately and right now I'm not in the same city with him, so I'm not worried if he tries to show up threatening me as he doesn't know which city I am in right now.

He doesn't stop asking me to go back to him, but not in a nice way.

Lately I feel like I want to go back and try to rebuild our relationship, having a conversation first to see if we see eye to eye on building a healthy family environment for our child and for our relationship. Giving him another chance. But the day I want to call him, my phone falls to the water and is dead. (what a coincidence?) I've lost contact numbers and I think I just need to wait.

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posted January 08, 2019 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PurpleBebe:
This is also slightly off topic, but I remember reading
somewhere that most men with Cancer energy in their
birth charts find themselves drawn to MMA. One MMA
trainer I know has a Cancer Sun, and another trainer a
Cancer Venus. They have a lovely gentle energy about
them, but the one thing in common that I noticed is that
they like talking about their emotions and how they have
been mistreated / misunderstood, and I can see how this
can be attractive for women who might be drawn into
fixing them and making their lives easier.

Ohh yes, Connor McGregor himself has Cancer Sun conjunct Moon if I remember correctly, and Cancer Mars also is quite prevalent among Soccer players (I was shocked when I discovered it), and most of them tend to play in offensive positions instead of defensive( which I had expected a Cancer Mars to play), perhaps their Cardinality helps them to play offensive positions, and they can always intuitively feel out the situation and their opponents in the matches I guess.

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