posted December 22, 2018 08:12 AM            

I had a Mars in Cancer friend, she said there were times she got hospitalized coz her ex beat her up. Now, that I don't find normal.

posted December 22, 2018 09:39 AM            

Mom however had experienced violence in her growing up years.

I have Moon in Cancer and Mom has Mars in Cancer.

My Mars squares Moon on the Ic point. So that indicates tension at home(especially with Dad). And that was the case.

posted December 22, 2018 09:48 AM            

My friend has Cancer Mars and she found out recently she was adopted. Lost her foster father when she was a child. Had a very strict foster mother but she loved my friend v much.

Another friend also has Cancer Mars. His parents divorced when he was young and he relocated overseas with his mom.

Yet another friend with Cancer Moon square Pluto. Not sure about his background but he's very close to his mom.

posted December 22, 2018 10:24 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
It seems that people who have either one of these placements in their birth chart. Experienced a violent childhood like domestic violence in the home between parents. My mom has Mars in Cancer and she experienced this growing up. Her parents use to fight and she witnessed this growing up. And I know a child who has Moon in Cancer and they are also going through this. Their parents fighting in the household.

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I have noticed this tendency with Mars in Cancer and have mentioned this multiple times here on Lindaland but not with moon in cancer.

"My mom had to help around the house from 5yo becos she was the eldest in a big family."

posted December 22, 2018 10:27 AM            

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Originally posted by kani:
I have moon in Cancer square pluto and Pluto in 4th and my growing up my home was full of unpredictable violence, terror, feelings of unsafety

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I think is bc it squares pluto in the 4th, pluto often hints to a history of trauma in the chart, the hard aspects.

posted December 22, 2018 10:29 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I have noticed this tendency with Mars in Cancer and have mentioned this multiple times here on Lindaland but not with moon in cancer.

"My mom had to help around the house from 5yo becos she was the eldest in a big family."

^that is parentification which is s type of abuse even though I get parents don't realize this.

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posted December 22, 2018 10:33 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I have noticed this tendency with Mars in Cancer and have mentioned this multiple times here on Lindaland but not with moon in cancer.

"My mom had to help around the house from 5yo becos she was the eldest in a big family."

^that is parentification which is s type of abuse even though I get parents don't realize this.

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posted December 22, 2018 10:36 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Ohh I have an Aqua Mars in 4th, and I grew up in a home full of domestic fights too, physical and arguments, I was involved in most of them lol, my brother(Aries Mars) on the other hand is so peaceful(at home), has never fought with parents, never even slammed the door(which was daily job for me growing up) that I find him weird. I feel like I it that way tho, fights and stuff, I can be that way with friends, in relationship and when I'm playing sports too, I don't feel like I'm playing at all until I play rough or someone p!!sses me off on the field, I just find it very normal, all of it, I have realized that it does not work for me with someone who does not find it normal, or I just have to find someone else to fight with . I move on very fast tho from these fights, and there are even times in between the fight in which I just look at the situation and find myself laughing lol, and then I resume the fight again. My brother and mom also move on very fast, Mom has Libra Mars, brother has Taurus Moon, ironically despite having Mars in 1H and in Aries, he is the peacemaker. My Dad on the other hand is a Taurus Mars and an Aries Moon and he takes months to move on....months....

I had a Mars in Cancer friend, she said there were times she got hospitalized coz her ex beat her up. Now, that I don't find normal.

Mars in Aqua in 4H, Mars trine Moon, Mars square Jupiter, Mars square Pluto, Mars square Nessus.

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With those mars aspects mars in aries has nothing on you!

posted December 22, 2018 10:45 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I think is bc it squares pluto in the 4th, pluto often hints to a history of trauma in the chart, the hard aspects.

What is your 4th house ruler and its aspects?

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Hi Hypatia,

I answered this question in my thread about Saturn, Pluto and Jupiter in 4th and not being a homebody but I suspect my answer there was wrong.

posted December 22, 2018 10:58 AM            

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Originally posted by kani:
Hi Hypatia,

I answered this question in my thread about Saturn, Pluto and Jupiter in 4th and not being a homebody but I suspect my answer there was wrong.

The cusp of my 4th (the IC) is in 27 degrees Virgo (but the 4th house is mainly libran) but would the ruler then still be mercury? If so, mercury is in my 8th, quare Uranus in the 5th, trine Pluto in the 4th and sextile Neptune in the 6th

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Mercury would still be your IC ruler unless your birth time is off but Mercury ruling your 4th and squaring Uranus fits very well with what you said about your childhood when you consider you also have moon square pluto, "my home was full of unpredictable violence, terror, feelings of unsafety."

posted December 22, 2018 11:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
In modern times, yes (haha) but during my mom's era and in the Eastern culture, it was not unusual esp with big families.

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posted December 22, 2018 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I do understand what you are saying but the effects of parentification would still impact her even if she grew up in a culture were this was socially acceptable. Often these people have unmet needs they have repressed and are unaware of and get into the habit of always putting others first and neglecting themselves. They are not very in touch with their emotions and learn to repress their feelings and needs often. Or they suffer from self worth issues and have a strong critical voice. I am not talking about kids been taught responsibility and to help out with some chores as that is healthy but when a kid gets put in a role were they feel like a second parent and their siblings see them as a second parent that is parentification or when they are acting more like the parent of their parent or like a surragate husband or wife.

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posted December 22, 2018 11:28 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Mercury would still be your IC ruler unless your birth time is off but Mercury ruling your 4th and squaring Uranus fits very well with what you said about your childhood when you consider you also have moon square pluto, "my home was full of unpredictable violence, terror, feelings of unsafety."

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posted December 22, 2018 12:58 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Ohh I have an Aqua Mars in 4th, and I grew up in a home full of domestic fights too, physical and arguments, I was involved in most of them lol, my brother(Aries Mars) on the other hand is so peaceful(at home), has never fought with parents, never even slammed the door(which was daily job for me growing up) that I find him weird. I feel like I it that way tho, fights and stuff, I can be that way with friends, in relationship and when I'm playing sports too, I don't feel like I'm playing at all until I play rough or someone p!!sses me off on the field, I just find it very normal, all of it, I have realized that it does not work for me with someone who does not find it normal, or I just have to find someone else to fight with . I move on very fast tho from these fights, and there are even times in between the fight in which I just look at the situation and find myself laughing lol, and then I resume the fight again. My brother and mom also move on very fast, Mom has Libra Mars, brother has Taurus Moon, ironically despite having Mars in 1H and in Aries, he is the peacemaker. My Dad on the other hand is a Taurus Mars and an Aries Moon and he takes months to move on....months....

I had a Mars in Cancer friend, she said there were times she got hospitalized coz her ex beat her up. Now, that I don't find normal.

Mars in Aqua in 4H, Mars trine Moon, Mars square Jupiter, Mars square Pluto, Mars square Nessus.

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posted December 22, 2018 03:40 PM            

Mars {H7gem} also squares my (intercepted) Moon Virgo 24.56 {H(9)leo}.

My mom had problems with intermittent unpredictable violence (and abuse).
I had described some of it, but decided to change my post-- "too much" .. and water under the bridge.

posted December 22, 2018 05:55 PM            

As I got into my teens he went from a discipliner to being tough with arguments and uses manipulation to win the argument.

It wasn't until my teens when I had a school social worker talk to me did he realize how much of a disconnect he has with his son.

From that point on he's tried to curve his behavior but its to late. I've develop my own opinion of him and it won't change.

I don't know if I should blame his early life when growing up and if he is just mimicking the cycle of behavior on my dads side of the family.

My grandma on my dad's side of the family was an atrocious Scorpio and my grandpa was a stubborn Taurus.

I don't think he had any control over his life with them.

My Cancer-Leo Mom would always protect me from him when I was younger, I still have a much better relationship with my mom.

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
My mom has Mars in Cancer and she experienced this growing up. Her parents use to fight and she witnessed this growing up. And I know a child who has Moon in Cancer and they are also going through this. Their parents fighting in the household.

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If it wasn't my dad trying to be a discipliner on his children. It would be tough financial fights between my mom and my dad.

My mom is a tough financial planner, think of a cheaper version of Warren Buffet and my dad is a reckless spender, he is completely ignorant when it comes to finance.

Most recently he got into a big argument with my mom over buying some expensive property even thought he hasn't been working for the last 10yrs.

He pretty much said buy it or I divorce. I wish my mom divorced him I really don't like this man.

As a result of the ultimatum my Mom is in tough financial position to support his man.

Anyway I don't think much of Cancer Suns with heavy Gemini influences in them, they will turn to violence or manipulation when they feel insecure or to get what they want.

posted December 23, 2018 02:45 PM            

My brother has Mars in Cancer. No violence at home. My Pisces Mars Dad is too afraid to hurt anyone. But we live with strict rules made by my Mom.

My husband has Mars in Cancer, in his childhood his parents involved in domestic violence.. He even had a real fight with his Dad when he tried to stop him, who was under alcohol influence, beating his Mom. His Dad has Mars in Cancer too.