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waxlobster
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posted January 04, 2019 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you consider yourself a 'lightworker'? Have you decided to learn about astrology to enlighten yourself and others?

I've always seen it as a vocational subject and that it goes along with my interest in physical, spiritual and metaphysical health...like it fulfills the intellectual side of the health mode.

Anyway I've just gotten involved with a brand new site which I hope takes off wonderfully. Here's my page:
https://mylightworker.org/user/waxyjo

And it would be lovely for other writers and beautiful souls to contribute some of your insights and findings.

I suppose this post is loose but the site does feature a better article I wrote today about Chiron and how it is isolating and inhibiting. With Chiron about to move into Aries for a the long-haul, perhaps this is something to look at within ourselves, as the outer world begins to reflect these insecurities more vividly.

Blessings~~~~

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posted January 05, 2019 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Chiron/Sun,Neptune/Chiron and Pluto/Chiron involved in am inconjunct aspect.

I certainly do think that Chiron has had the effect of me wanting to "heal the world" so to speak. So in turn,bring healing to myself.

I always think that healers or those involved in the healing/empowering arts i.e psychologists,social workers, sex therapists,life coaches, personal trainer, dieticians,motivational speakers, alcoholic anonymous group conductors etc. Have first "experienced" the wound or hurt deeply within themselves. And that makes them effective in remedying relief to others(Chiron).

So the relief they expand on to others to bring clarity or healing,is actually a way in which to reach within and heal themselves (Chiron essence).

The wound seldom completely heals however. As when they delve deeper, they find layer upon layer upon layer unending.

And if Neptune is in aspect, it could be downright difficult to grasp or get a real tangible hold on.

The wound that is the deepest and the most complex to "heal" becomes their life journey.

And if mixed with the Sun/Saturn/Mars or Mercury, it could manifest as the basis for choosing a certain career path.

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posted January 05, 2019 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MMarie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a grand kite in my chart with Chiron Conjunct Pallas at the top included with mercury/mars/Saturn and am starting to wonder if this is my path in life or will be a career in the future...something with healing others. Mars is in 10th house, Mercury in 2nd, Saturn in 6th, Chiron/Pallas in 12th.

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posted January 05, 2019 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron is conjunct my MC in Gemini.
I've also wondered if I would do a good jub when it comes to guiding or advising others. Research also seems interesting. Chiron is a "mix of Saturn/Uranus" and sometimes I do feel that Saturn/Uranus combination of doing things, in structured yet creative way.

Not sure if I would see myself as a lightworker, thought at times I do wonder if I can find something that helps others that suits me.

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posted January 08, 2019 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron is between my nn/ascendant (they're conjunct exactly) and my sun in the 12th house, it conjuncts both on each side. It also forms a yod with my pluto/moon exact conjunction in the 6th and my Neptune in the 8th. I've had a lot of astrologers tell me I was a healer and am going to have a big part in bringing self healing consciousness forward. My chart as a whole suggests this and I have been working towards that. Even though that yod with chiron, Pluto, and Neptune is generational, I think it has more to do with it's placement in the chart. I've seen it act very personally in a chart and I've also seen it act like mine...as a healer.

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posted January 10, 2019 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I have Chiron/Sun,Neptune/Chiron and Pluto/Chiron involved in am inconjunct aspect.

I certainly do think that Chiron has had the effect of me wanting to "heal the world" so to speak. So in turn,bring healing to myself.

I always think that healers or those involved in the healing/empowering arts i.e psychologists,social workers, sex therapists,life coaches, personal trainer, dieticians,motivational speakers, alcoholic anonymous group conductors etc. Have first "experienced" the wound or hurt deeply within themselves. And that makes them effective in remedying relief to others(Chiron).

So the relief they expand on to others to bring clarity or healing,is actually a way in which to reach within and heal themselves (Chiron essence).

The wound seldom completely heals however. As when they delve deeper, they find layer upon layer upon layer unending.

And if Neptune is in aspect, it could be downright difficult to grasp or get a real tangible hold on.

The wound that is the deepest and the most complex to "heal" becomes their life journey.

And if mixed with the Sun/Saturn/Mars or Mercury, it could manifest as the basis for choosing a certain career path.


So true Aries23 and very well shared from your own very experienced viewpoint. To clarify are you saying your Sun is conjunct Chiron or inconjunct? Sun-Chiron conjuncts run away with the chart quite often, it is something that defines the person quite often to a certain point in their life....basically until you turn the chiron energy outward it's like walking around with a cloak over your bullet wound. It's not getting the air, or attention it needs to heal. Scars are fine, open wounds...not so much.

An expressive Chiron person does make the best healer though, no doubt about that. I have a friend who went through the world of drugs, alcoholism, alcohol counselling, then back into the cycle again. She's a Moon-Chiron conjunct in Aries and an amazing human.

She HAS healed her wounds and now works with children, as they are the ones who can be lit up most by her bright light ♥

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http://waxlobster.blogspot.co.uk/
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posted January 10, 2019 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MMarie:
I have a grand kite in my chart with Chiron Conjunct Pallas at the top included with mercury/mars/Saturn and am starting to wonder if this is my path in life or will be a career in the future...something with healing others. Mars is in 10th house, Mercury in 2nd, Saturn in 6th, Chiron/Pallas in 12th.

MMarie - hypnosis comes to mind with Chiron in the 12th. For you meditation and working on some regressions and visualisations may give you some clues as to blocks you may still have. In terms of career, the 12th relates very well to the subconscious and working with hypnosis could be a good avenue for you going forwards. Energy healing features with Mars in the 10th but the most important thing about that is you will have a presence when you're in the right career. A gravitas which will command respect, which again works very well for healing and commanding trust and transmuting energy blockages.

Saturn in the 6th too, having to work hard to maintain your own day to day health gives you a compassion and unenduring patience with others' issues.

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posted January 10, 2019 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
Chiron is conjunct my MC in Gemini.
I've also wondered if I would do a good jub when it comes to guiding or advising others. Research also seems interesting. Chiron is a "mix of Saturn/Uranus" and sometimes I do feel that Saturn/Uranus combination of doing things, in structured yet creative way.

Not sure if I would see myself as a lightworker, thought at times I do wonder if I can find something that helps others that suits me.


Hi AriesLilith,

Chiron functions very well in Gemini and on the MC you will be less inclined to retreat and fear exposure of your vulnerabilities. It could be a lovely compassionate placement and one which lends itself to giving lectures which captivate others. I don't know why I can see you doing talks, but I can...

Saturn and Uranus aren't anything to do with Chiron. It's simply that Chiron's orbit is mostly between theirs, so in the early days after Chiron was discovered (1978) the astrologers *assumed* a link. It takes time to observe and understanding a planet/asteroid accurately. I've really enjoyed working to do this with Chiron by studying the placement in charts as closely as possible for about 15 years now :-)

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posted January 10, 2019 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Chiron is between my nn/ascendant (they're conjunct exactly) and my sun in the 12th house, it conjuncts both on each side. It also forms a yod with my pluto/moon exact conjunction in the 6th and my Neptune in the 8th. I've had a lot of astrologers tell me I was a healer and am going to have a big part in bringing self healing consciousness forward. My chart as a whole suggests this and I have been working towards that. Even though that yod with chiron, Pluto, and Neptune is generational, I think it has more to do with it's placement in the chart. I've seen it act very personally in a chart and I've also seen it act like mine...as a healer.

Wow Dons2angelss that is an amazing chart configuration you describe. Firstly just having NN exactly conjunct the Ascendant makes your life path all about you, and how you come across. It must be quite difficult to work solo and not rely on family and relationships to back you up, but the lesson of the North Node is never the easiest.

So intense to have the Sun-Chiron-Asc-NN configuration. Your life path is self discovery and rather than working on *being* a healer, it's more about emanating what you have learned for your own experience. Some kind of performance, maybe as a medium?

Do you have mediumship ability? I would expect that you do... working with the supernatural and the other side would figure well with your chart. Pluto-Moon exact bringing the underworld into the earth, rudimentary 6th House; via expression of self. I'm interested in the sign of your Ascendant and MC actually. Your chart sounds fascinating. Exact conjunctions are no accident! ;-)

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posted January 10, 2019 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aspects to chiron create an envelope pattern in my chart (it forms a second kite through my grand trine and a mystic rectangle) and a 2nd t-square

i wouldn't call myself a light worker, but i do have interest in those subjects and have had results with healing and pain relief (on other people) through certain practices etc

curiosity for me rather than my life

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posted January 10, 2019 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
So true Aries23 and very well shared from your own very experienced viewpoint. To clarify are you saying your Sun is conjunct Chiron or inconjunct? Sun-Chiron conjuncts run away with the chart quite often, it is something that defines the person quite often to a certain point in their life....basically until you turn the chiron energy outward it's like walking around with a cloak over your bullet wound. It's not getting the air, or attention it needs to heal. Scars are fine, open wounds...not so much.

An expressive Chiron person does make the best healer though, no doubt about that. I have a friend who went through the world of drugs, alcoholism, alcohol counselling, then back into the cycle again. She's a Moon-Chiron conjunct in Aries and an amazing human.

She HAS healed her wounds and now works with children, as they are the ones who can be lit up most by her bright light ♥


Mine is an inconjunct aspect to all. So;

Sun inconjunct Chiron
Neptune inconjunct Chiron
Pluto inconjunct Chiron
Venus opposes Chiron(Wide orb though of 10 degrees)

I also have Chiron trine Mc.

The conjunction can certainly be a blindspot. Much like the opposition can be a projection and complete "dissociation" etc. I learned that through my own Neptune/Sun conj mix. As well as Mars/Asc opposition.

My wound (Chiron) is connected to physical affection, appreciation, self confidence & validation (Taurus). I didn't get these from my parents. This especially from my father(Sun inconjunct).

I recognized the wound to be far deeper than I was aware when people around me seemed to know about my issues with my Dad. I even posted a thread to discuss all of that on here.

The Sun is the "ego" mind and so contacts from Chiron suggests hurt from the ego perspective. And will affects the outlook that one has.

The way that people that people can "recognize" this wound is through talkinh in and around those themes ALL the time. Especially when drunk(because inhibitions are lowered). Very tricky to identify to identify at times though.

Sun-Chiron "I dont think i need to be first"- falsely disguing itself as "humility" or altruism

Moon-Chiron "I dont need to be nurtured"-falsely disguising itself as"self sustenance"

Mercury-Chiron "My voice is just one of many"-falsely disguising itself as "quiet intelligence" etc.


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posted January 10, 2019 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
Wow Dons2angelss that is an amazing chart configuration you describe. Firstly just having NN exactly conjunct the Ascendant makes your life path all about you, and how you come across. It must be quite difficult to work solo and not rely on family and relationships to back you up, but the lesson of the North Node is never the easiest.

So intense to have the Sun-Chiron-Asc-NN configuration. Your life path is self discovery and rather than working on *being* a healer, it's more about emanating what you have learned for your own experience. Some kind of performance, maybe as a medium?

Do you have mediumship ability? I would expect that you do... working with the supernatural and the other side would figure well with your chart. Pluto-Moon exact bringing the underworld into the earth, rudimentary 6th House; via expression of self. I'm interested in the sign of your Ascendant and MC actually. Your chart sounds fascinating. Exact conjunctions are no accident! ;-)


It's been no picnic 😂! I do have a lot of medium/psychic tendencies that are quite hard to control actually. With chiron sitting between my sun and nn/ascendant in the 12th, I've tried to pinpoint what my "wound" is so that I can help others. Everything you read about chiron is the wounding or healing but I have been reading a lot more about it being the bridge between the higher soul asperations and the lower personality. I see that making sense in a lot of charts that I've seen too. I'm new here so I'm still trying to figure out how to post my chart but here is a link to ASTRO.

https://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_2ata_me.65604.114098.png&res=100


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posted January 11, 2019 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dumuzi:
aspects to chiron create an envelope pattern in my chart (it forms a second kite through my grand trine and a mystic rectangle) and a 2nd t-square

i wouldn't call myself a light worker, but i do have interest in those subjects and have had results with healing and pain relief (on other people) through certain practices etc

curiosity for me rather than my life


From what you've said it's very difficult to fathom what Chiron aspects you have and in what area of your chart. It sounds like you have strong aspect patterns however which would require a far broader approach to life. Perhaps as you say, Chiron is an incidental feature, not a focus.

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posted January 11, 2019 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Aries23 I fully agree. Especially about the discussing Chiron issues, I'm sure that I mentioned the same in my article and I have claimed that Chiron is exalted in Gemini for this exact reason.

I still don't have a handle on inconjuncts. I don't 'feel' them in my chart as such, unless when transited. I suppose I attribute them to lying dormant until triggered... what do you find? Can you feel those aspects to Chiron all the time?

Yes, Chiron in Taurus lacking nurture makes sense. What house?

My Chiron in Aries grew up terrified of confrontation and aggression. Luckily my Mars in the 7th square my Sun means that I'm not quite weak enough to back down from what matters and, my fears have dissipated. I used to actually date men who were as gentle and feminine as possible, so as to sidestep true Aries energy. I've finally found the right balance on the outside, by embracing my own 'inner warrior' ♥ Our wounds become scars of our journeys.... ♥

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posted January 11, 2019 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am interested to see your chart Dons2, the link doesn't work unfortunately.

If you save your chart to a hosting site such as imgur then it will work. I'd tell you how to embed but I've tried every combination and it simply never works for me on this site!!

You do need to 'protect yourself' to be a medium but you do seem to have the gift. Your 'wound' will be about your reticence to shine, speak out and be your true self. You are likely very shy and reserved unless you are with people you know well, and learning to actually speak up about what you are perceiving will be your great strength....when you are ready.

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posted January 11, 2019 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bearee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like the reason I’m on earth is to heal people or at least help people see the real reason behind their suffering.

I have Chiron in Cancer in the 9th house conjunct South Node, Moon and Mars.
Opposite Neptune/Uranus.
Trine Pluto, square Mercury* and sextile Sun.


*my mercury is square fricking everything but oh well..... -_-

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posted January 11, 2019 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
I am interested to see your chart Dons2, the link doesn't work unfortunately.

You do need to 'protect yourself' to be a medium but you do seem to have the gift. Your 'wound' will be about your reticence to shine, speak out and be your true self. You are likely very shy and reserved unless you are with people you know well, and learning to actually speak up about what you are perceiving will be your great strength....when you are ready.


https://photos.shutterfly.com/full/44369954018

I hope this one works, if not I can just you my birth info. I'm actually not very shy though but I will pull back if I get any kind of negative feeling from that person. For anyone with a strong chiron placement I think their instincts are stronger and they're able to follow them easier.

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posted January 11, 2019 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm... I have Chiron conjunct my South Node, trine Pluto, Mercury/Lilith and my Ascendant, sextile Vesta and opposite my Saturn.

I think maybe I was a lightworker in a previous life, and a lot of those traits came with me into this one, as I have often felt I'm not too great at much else! Though I'm also learning that (maybe the Saturn opp) if I want to do anything else, I simply have to work at it and put effort in to learn.

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posted January 12, 2019 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bearee:
I feel like the reason I’m on earth is to heal people or at least help people see the real reason behind their suffering.

I have Chiron in Cancer in the 9th house conjunct South Node, Moon and Mars.
Opposite Neptune/Uranus.
Trine Pluto, square Mercury* and sextile Sun.


*my mercury is square fricking everything but oh well..... -_-


Wow Bearee, that's quite an aspected Chiron you have there! I love the 9th house focus though, did you have an odd relationship with education? Obviously the positive expression of Chiron here is to create an almost academic way to reach people in a way that heals them. Like doing motivational talks, or even working with overseas charities etc. It could be that your past lives feed into this. Did you have a past life which you can now use the wisdom of to help others?

I seem to be thinking about past lives a lot today, could be time to do a meditation :-)

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posted January 12, 2019 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by implosions:
Hm... I have Chiron conjunct my South Node, trine Pluto, Mercury/Lilith and my Ascendant, sextile Vesta and opposite my Saturn.

I think maybe I was a lightworker in a previous life, and a lot of those traits came with me into this one, as I have often felt I'm not too great at much else! Though I'm also learning that (maybe the Saturn opp) if I want to do anything else, I simply have to work at it and put effort in to learn.


What house and sign are your Chiron in implosions?

Saturn conjunct North Node eh? That's quite an administrative path, I'm assuming Saturn is sextiling your Mercury-Ascendant also. Gives me the impression of somebody working behind the scenes to make a difference. Dealing with the regular stuff which is essential to the bigger picture. You have great concentration and accuracy? You see so many people lack the kind of skills that are required to make sure things are in place and done correctly. That is a talent, believe me :-)

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posted January 12, 2019 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's so strange Dons2angelss, I still can't see your chart!

I just set up a login but it still didn't show when I input the link. Clearly your chart is shy, if you aren't ;-)

I am interested in seeing it though, feel free to send to: waxlobster@hotmail.com

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posted January 12, 2019 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for implosions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
What house and sign are your Chiron in implosions?

Saturn conjunct North Node eh? That's quite an administrative path, I'm assuming Saturn is sextiling your Mercury-Ascendant also. Gives me the impression of somebody working behind the scenes to make a difference. Dealing with the regular stuff which is essential to the bigger picture. You have great concentration and accuracy? You see so many people lack the kind of skills that are required to make sure things are in place and done correctly. That is a talent, believe me :-)


I would say it's a loose conjunction. Saturn is 20 Cap, but NN is 1 Aquarius. I do feel it's presence/pressure, but not excessively. Chiron is at 27 Cancer, on the cusp of my 4/5th house (I would say I feel more 4th house Chiron than 5th, but elements of both), and SN at 1 Leo.

Saturn does sextile my Mercury, yes! But my AC is 2 Aries, and astro says it Quintiles my Saturn. Haven't explored Quintiles much yet though. I do work a lot behind the scenes of my own life; I am a fairly private person to begin with, and I do a lot of my own work when it comes to my jobs. I'm on the autism spectrum as well, so focus can be a huge asset for me getting stuff done- though sometimes very difficult as it can be really confusing. With Saturn, my Neptune conjuncts it from the 10th house, so there's a big element of ' ??? ' about a lot of Saturn issues. My mother and I have Saturn conjunct- though she has Vesta rx right on top of hers, and she has always been extremely mysterious to me about Saturn related topics, despite being the bread-maker in the house growing up. I love learning it once I figure it out, but getting my hands on the knowledge can be a real difficulty sometimes. Most often I find it's a 'wait for the right time to be given the knowledge', if anything.

However I can agree with seeing where other people are ... not doing something 'wrong', but less efficiently, for sure. I can almost always come up with a better idea of how to get something done, whether it's mundane life or interpersonal aspects. (But this could possibly be from my Pallas/Eros in Virgo in an exact trine to my Uranus in Cap on my MC).

But thank you! I do need to remind myself that problem solving on a whim is indeed a talent. I often feel very talent-less, but I know that is not something that is easily done (given my experience, anyway!)

((Note: I checked out your site, and the first thing I see is an article on Chiron- and wow! What a nail on the head for this conversation! <3 Thank you for posting that!))

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