posted January 22, 2019 10:32 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Why would anybody want to do this? Get a woman pregnant just to keep her?

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i think it's stupid, but there's guys who think like that

posted January 22, 2019 02:02 PM            

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Originally posted by AnneFrank:
My father has a Cancer Mars with Pisces Sun Capricorn Moon Aquarius rising and Aries Venus

He's LEAST interested to say the least.

He got excited but everything went away when I was born.

Males don't understand the stress and responsibilities of a child.

Be careful

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posted January 23, 2019 12:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:

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So long story short, I just wanna know... does men with Mars in Cancer desire to make every gal they sleep with pregnant? Or only with someone special? Because the last thing I want is he's just seeing me as a child-bearing "machine" to fulfil his procreation fascination famous with this placement.

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What is your man moon/venus sign?

I and my Cancer mars husband never talked about having kids before but he refused using any protection with me. Whenever I tried to remind him, he found a way we skipped it.

One time when we had a bad break up and a few days later had a make-up sex, he asked me what if I got pregnant, I was freaked out and told him, "don't you dare". He sighed and hugged me, whispered, "so you don't leave me anymore". I pulled his face and told him, "don't think it will make me stay". He smiled... weirdly. That time I didn't know he has Mars in Cancer and thought it was just his way to scare/tease me. He never said anything like that anymore. I thought no man would love those idea, "getting a woman pregnant to keep her", I thought it was a woman thing.

Months before we had an unplanned pregnancy (I thought so), he talked about what if we were married. But I quickly avoided the topic because I planned to leave him and moved to another city.

What bothered me at the time, he didn't show any emotions when I told him the news, like, it was not a surprise for him and when he looked away I could see he was.. smile,happy? He even tried to convince me that we had unplanned pregnancy by asking me if I wanted to abort it.

Days later he took me, without telling me where we would go, to meet his family to plan our wedding. I was shocked because he didn't ask and discuss it first with me. Everything was dealt at one day including talking to my parents.

A week later, we had conversation about destiny and life. I told him that I actually planned to leave him and the city but then I got pregnant. And he slipped his tongue by saying, "you know, I've been thinking for a long time that if you are not pregnant, we will never get married". I was like, "what do you mean? sounds like a plan?... did you plan to get me pregnant to keep me?" He anxiously talked random things in a fast way and high pitch which gave me an alert we would end up in a useless argument so I stopped there.

posted January 23, 2019 08:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
I think this explains Chris Brown's song "Little More (Royalty)" about his daughter. He has a Cancer Mars and if you scroll through his Instagram timeline, you can tell that he takes his role as a father very seriously. He's been in love with Royalty since she was born, I love it.

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posted January 23, 2019 10:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Does Chris Brown have Moon in Taurus or Cancer? I forget.

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posted January 23, 2019 11:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes. Moon in Taurus like children ime. So Mars in Cancer seems like a nice mix to that.

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posted January 23, 2019 01:27 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
What about someone with Moon in Sagittarius and Mars in Cancer?

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I dont think its great. Moon in Sag is a philosophical parent. Not involved on a "hands on" perspective. They can make great "uncle Dads".

The Mars in Cancer can sweep in and out with Moods when interacting with the Moon(especially on aspect).

posted January 23, 2019 01:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I dont think its great. Moon in Sag is a philosophical parent. Not involved on a "hands on" perspective. They can make great "uncle Dads".

The Mars in Cancer can sweep in and out with Moods when interacting with the Moon(especially on aspect).

At times, they act like a parent & are protective(Mars in Cancer). Other times distant and disengaged(Moon in Sag).

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posted January 23, 2019 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
[b] I dont think its great. Moon in Sag is a philosophical parent. Not involved on a "hands on" perspective. They can make great "uncle Dads".

The Mars in Cancer can sweep in and out with Moods when interacting with the Moon(especially on aspect).

At times, they act like a parent & are protective(Mars in Cancer). Other times distant and disengaged(Moon in Sag).

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posted January 25, 2019 04:08 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
What is your man moon/venus sign?

I and my Cancer mars husband never talked about having kids before but he refused using any protection with me. Whenever I tried to remind him, he found a way we skipped it.

One time when we had a bad break up and a few days later had a make-up sex, he asked me what if I got pregnant, I was freaked out and told him, "don't you dare". He sighed and hugged me, whispered, "so you don't leave me anymore". I pulled his face and told him, "don't think it will make me stay". He smiled... weirdly. That time I didn't know he has Mars in Cancer and thought it was just his way to scare/tease me. He never said anything like that anymore. I thought no man would love those idea, "getting a woman pregnant to keep her", I thought it was a woman thing.

Months before we had an unplanned pregnancy (I thought so), he talked about what if we were married. But I quickly avoided the topic because I planned to leave him and moved to another city.

What bothered me at the time, he didn't show any emotions when I told him the news, like, it was not a surprise for him and when he looked away I could see he was.. smile,happy? He even tried to convince me that we had unplanned pregnancy by asking me if I wanted to abort it.

Days later he took me, without telling me where we would go, to meet his family to plan our wedding. I was shocked because he didn't ask and discuss it first with me. Everything was dealt at one day including talking to my parents.

A week later, we had conversation about destiny and life. I told him that I actually planned to leave him and the city but then I got pregnant. And he slipped his tongue by saying, "you know, I've been thinking for a long time that if you are not pregnant, we will never get married". I was like, "what do you mean? sounds like a plan?... did you plan to get me pregnant to keep me?" He anxiously talked random things in a fast way and high pitch which gave me an alert we would end up in a useless argument so I stopped there.

It's true that I feel after marriage, it's "ownership" thing. Can feel the controlling and manipulative way he does to keep me and obey him. That's why we argue a lot because I can see right through him and refuse to be treated like that.

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Your story makes me very nervous. 😅

My guy has Moon in Libra, Venus in Leo, and I know he loves kids. Although it's against my wish but I may leave him and he knows it.

posted January 25, 2019 04:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
he might not be being rational or he might be over romanticizing the idea

not saying that's the case, just saying the cancer mars guy i knew did think like that about women

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posted January 25, 2019 04:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I dont think its great. Moon in Sag is a philosophical parent. Not involved on a "hands on" perspective. They can make great "uncle Dads".

The Mars in Cancer can sweep in and out with Moods when interacting with the Moon(especially on aspect).

At times, they act like a parent & are protective(Mars in Cancer). Other times distant and disengaged(Moon in Sag).

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I've a Sag Moon. 😅 My Mars is in Pisces. Will I make a good parent? I know with my Uranus in 5H I will be an unconventional parent.

posted January 25, 2019 04:59 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:

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It was erroneous of me to make such a sweeping statement earlier without saying that its a case by case situation that also takes aspects into account etc.

Not ALL Cancer Moons make great parents. As much as not ALL Sag Moons will be terrible. Aspects must be taken into account.

Because Cancer Mars has the Moon influence, the earlier statement made it seem like its Moon and Mars that are pivotal in evaluating "Daddy readiness status"

I look at Moon as important for maternal affection(both in women and men). So I would consider Cancer Mars,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter and Saturn or Mars conjunct the Ic that can influence parenting skills
This because the Moon is involved in all.

Also worthy to consider is the Childs moon sign as compared to yours.

Cap Moon for a parent may seem responsible...true. But I dont personally favour them as parents for a Cancer moon/Sag Moon child -who may find them too austere.

The Moon of the child and aspects there tell what sort of parenting style they will most likely be favourably predisposed to.

I for instance had a moody and austere father (Saturn on his Cap Moon by conjunction). So I felt my father slow to affection and enthusiastic in discipline.

I have a Cancer Moon with Mars squaring it. So what I needed was encouragement from him and more affection/words of affirmation.And that was not forthcoming.

If his (Dad's) Moon was conjunct Jupiter or in aspect to Neptune. It would have given him a more "watery" feel.
And perhaps our relations would have been favourable? Can't say.

posted January 25, 2019 05:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I've a Sag Moon. 😅 My Mars is in Pisces. Will I make a good parent? I know with my Uranus in 5H I will be an unconventional parent.

He has Moon in Libra so I guess he will be a better parent?

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What aspects does your Moon make? If aspects to Saturn, you will be the type of parent who has a more "armchair" approach.

You want the report card and will lecture them on the importance of doing well. But will.you be involved in helping them with homework or monitoring their progress at school? Not likely.

If your kid has Moon in Aries, they will appreciate this less "hands on " approach of parenting. They will interpret your detached manner as affording them "freedom to be themselves".

If the child has Moon in Cap or Taurus however. They will.look at you as "all talk. No action" type of mother. And they would like you to get more "involved". So your "pearls of wisdom" will go in one ear and out the other.

Also worthwhile is looking at the cusp of the 5th house, ruling planet and aspects there.

If Neptune is involved, as your kids get older. You will be more mysterious to them or absent(depending on their perspective). But if Mercury is there, you will be "one of the kids" etc.

posted January 25, 2019 07:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
What aspects does your Moon make? If aspects to Saturn, you will be the type of parent who has a more "armchair" approach.

You want the report card and will lecture them on the importance of doing well. But will.you be involved in helping them with homework or monitoring their progress at school? Not likely.

If your kid has Moon in Aries, they will appreciate this less "hands on " approach of parenting. They will interpret your detached manner as affording them "freedom to be themselves".

If the child has Moon in Cap or Taurus however. They will.look at you as "all talk. No action" type of mother. And they would like you to get more "involved". So your "pearls of wisdom" will go in one ear and out the other.

Also worthwhile is looking at the cusp of the 5th house, ruling planet and aspects there.

If Neptune is involved, as your kids get older. You will be more mysterious to them or absent(depending on their perspective). But if Mercury is there, you will be "one of the kids" etc.

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My Moon in 7H conjunct Neptune, opposite Venus, square Mars, trine Jupiter, quintile Pluto, quincunx Mercury.

My 5H in Libra, Venus in Gemini opposite Moon/Neptune, square Mars.

posted January 25, 2019 07:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Your story makes me very nervous. 😅

My guy has Moon in Libra, Venus in Leo, and I know he loves kids. Although it's against my wish but I may leave him and he knows it.

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Yeah, now I know some men use that tactic too, not only women.

I know an Aries moon, Cancer mars, Libra venus, who tries to cheat on his wife with me. He has two sons.

posted January 25, 2019 07:31 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Yeah, now I know some men use that tactic too, not only women.

I know an Aries moon, Cancer mars, Libra venus, who tries to cheat on his wife with me. He has two sons.

Is your man's moon making an aspect to mars?

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posted January 25, 2019 09:24 AM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
[b] I dont think its great. Moon in Sag is a philosophical parent. Not involved on a "hands on" perspective. They can make great "uncle Dads".

The Mars in Cancer can sweep in and out with Moods when interacting with the Moon(especially on aspect).

At times, they act like a parent & are protective(Mars in Cancer). Other times distant and disengaged(Moon in Sag).

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I’m a Sagittarius Moon with Cancer Mars and I will be the BEST consistent mother ever. My Cancer Ascendant is ruled by my Sagittarius Moon and I have Pluto in the 5th house in conjunction to the 6th House. Can’t wait to be a lawyer so I can afford to have 3 beautiful babies!!

posted January 25, 2019 10:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
My Moon in 7H conjunct Neptune, opposite Venus, square Mars, trine Jupiter, quintile Pluto, quincunx Mercury.

My 5H in Libra, Venus in Gemini opposite Moon/Neptune, square Mars.

Haha... I don't quite sound like a hands-on mom. Does Pluto in 5H help? It will make me a very "involved" mom.

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Your Moon in 7th's overarching influence is that quincunx with Pluto and Neptune conjunction respectively.

The problem i have with Neptune, is how it tends "idealize" parenthood. And with its subsequent Pluto Inconjunction, one could have big plans and big dreams for their children BEFORE they are even born.

Moon in 7th is the type of parent who will try to see things from the "other" point of view. So this may mean that you treat parenthood as a partnership with your kid/children. You think of your relationship with them as "team work".

Now Pluto in 5th makes a helicopter parent. You are the type who goes through phones,monitors internet sites visited and even friends your child associates with. When taken too far, you can be a control freak with your kids.

The ruler of the 5th (Ven)in opposition to Neptune may make you a parent who over steps boundaries and won't allow your keeps privacy. Able to have them reveal whom they are dating or whom they like etc. In a very subtle unobtrusive way.

The other extreme is being totally disengaged from whom they really are i.e the teacher says your child is a bully. And you assert "Not my angel. She would never do that . Its probably the other kid that started it" etc.

posted January 25, 2019 10:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
I�m a Sagittarius Moon with Cancer Mars and I will be the BEST consistent mother ever. My Cancer Ascendant is ruled by my Sagittarius Moon and I have Pluto in the 5th house in conjunction to the 6th House. Can�t wait to be a lawyer so I can afford to have 3 beautiful babies!!

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I have no doubt On the latter post I rectified this sweeping statement by talking about aspects and other factors being taken into consideration.

With your Pluto between 5th and 6th, are you a Children's rights lawyer or dealing with Family law?

posted January 27, 2019 09:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Your Moon in 7th's overarching influence is that quincunx with Pluto and Neptune conjunction respectively.

The problem i have with Neptune, is how it tends "idealize" parenthood. And with its subsequent Pluto Inconjunction, one could have big plans and big dreams for their children BEFORE they are even born.

Moon in 7th is the type of parent who will try to see things from the "other" point of view. So this may mean that you treat parenthood as a partnership with your kid/children. You think of your relationship with them as "team work".

Now Pluto in 5th makes a helicopter parent. You are the type who goes through phones,monitors internet sites visited and even friends your child associates with. When taken too far, you can be a control freak with your kids.

The ruler of the 5th (Ven)in opposition to Neptune may make you a parent who over steps boundaries and won't allow your keeps privacy. Able to have them reveal whom they are dating or whom they like etc. In a very subtle unobtrusive way.

The other extreme is being totally disengaged from whom they really are i.e the teacher says your child is a bully. And you assert "Not my angel. She would never do that . Its probably the other kid that started it" etc.

But with Pluto in 5th, I would count on you being the former parent rather than the latter.

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My Moon is quintile Pluto, not quincunx.

I can't see myself as the type of parent who invades privacy. My mom used to do that to me and I hated it so I've always told myself I would never be like my mom. But I don't know for sure (haha) as I don't have children. I'm thinking my Uranus/Pluto in 5H will somehow learn to balance the different energies - one being detached, one being too involved - or I could be the type to swing wildly between the two.

posted January 27, 2019 10:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Mariamne Mara:
Not a Cancer Mars but I dated a Cancer Venus guy who was obsessed about impregnating me. He found really awkward when I said to him to use condoms; I discovered that for him was normal not use anticoceptives when he was in previous relationships, so we always argued before having relationships.
He could not stand my rules.

His Venus was in my 6th house which is also my fifth one. One more after start dating, he was suggesting me having babies with him. So tired of this daddyish paranoid.

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posted May 31, 2020 04:29 PM            

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Originally posted by AnneFrank:
My father has a Cancer Mars with Pisces Sun Capricorn Moon Aquarius rising and Aries Venus

He's LEAST interested to say the least.

He got excited but everything went away when I was born.

Males don't understand the stress and responsibilities of a child.

Be careful

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