posted January 29, 2019 04:10 PM            

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Originally posted by DRVM614K:
Concentrate on the house sign and any planets that are opposite pluto. That way youll be able to psychologically withstand not having such 'power' and integrate the not so desirable traits of ones pluto placement.

What ever is opposite pluto is kinda like a resting place tp recharge.

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posted January 29, 2019 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by DRVM614K:
Concentrate on the house sign and any planets that are opposite pluto. That way youll be able to psychologically withstand not having such 'power' and integrate the not so desirable traits of ones pluto placement.

What ever is opposite pluto is kinda like a resting place tp recharge.

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posted January 29, 2019 05:33 PM            

As a double hades moon, the only way for me to truly understand my feelings and get through them is to feel them and accept them as they are. Many times people will do whatever they can to avoid dealing with dark emotions such as anger, resentment, depression, sadness, grief, guilt. Pluto doesn't let me avoid these, and if I tried to things would just get worse. In order for me to deal with something I'm feeling I have to obsessively go through the feeling over and over again, constantly on a daily basis.

posted January 29, 2019 05:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
Pluto is in my 3rd,in scorpios. Opposite my Sun and Mercury in 9th. Inconjunct my Venus in 8th. Well, my poor mind is doomed! . Even if I get over the feelings, my mind will be obsessed for a loong time over the person I let go off.. sigh

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Nah, no such thing as doomed unless you accept that. I have plenty of inconjuncts in my chart, they are wonderful! Frustrating in the beginning, yes, but beautifully unique when they've found their balance and teamwork. In some ways, your doomed out look is pretty atypical for Pluto inconjunct Venus, actually! Venus has no idea what Pluto is about, frustrated and turned off by it's existence. And a stubborn Venus can be lazy and rude when it comes to actually getting something done! (Not you, just the Venus ) See what aspects are made to Venus to strengthen her.

Pluto opposing anything is really cool; it's a push/pull effect to balance out what needs to be done. It really does embody the whole 'let go' ideology because they are at odds. But Pluto in the third is a lovely placement; you need deep talks with a lot of information and mystery and purpose. And Mercury in the 9th is learning how to open up that third house; what a lovely placement! Venus in the 8th is beautifully placed as well actually, sitting in the true home of Pluto! If anything, it sounds like these guys are all set up to assist that Pluto in the Third house of mind, information gathering, projects and sibling-like peers.

posted January 29, 2019 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by implosions:
Pluto is a very difficult area to master, if just because of it's emotional nature. The trick is that you have to feel your way through everything. (Which is the real scary part, if we aren't used to letting ourselves just FEEL things). I thought that 'letting go' of something very important to me recently was impossible, terrifying and I struggled for years over it. And then one day I just let myself dig into it a little, hear some hard truths and really cry and feel my way through it. It was painful at the time, because deep sadness and grief is meant to ... but I am so proud of myself for finally doing it. It feels passed over now, like I really did go right through it instead of trying to angrily or sadly just toss it away from me. I HAD to grieve what I was letting go of.

And it's not that you have to just 'let it go' in one fell swoop, which is what the mind perceives as frightening. Whatever we are here to master and surrender control over, is meant to not be controlled. It's meant to be let go. And then it can transform, not just disappear.

I think there is an element of needing to master the lower levels of Pluto as well .. and often that does involve very intense grief. Grieving over what you think or thought was what you actually need or wanted.

And yes, it does take time! Don't ever think you have to force yourself; explore a little bit each day, even if it's just through astrology or a few minutes thinking about what the issues are (in a kind way to yourself; I wouldn't suggest picking and pulling apart the wound itself unless you feel an urge to be upset about it; take a minute and just FEEL the frustration or sadness. That's an important part too. Pluto is rarely ever one fell swoop, it needs bits and pieces here and there.

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Thank you so much for writing this!
I really appreciate it, very insightful and beautifully put together<3

Yes I know exactly how you mean! As I wrote in one of your posts, I am going through just
what you are describing in that post and here <3. I am at the finishing line, but something inside me still struggles. I think it will fade away with time though! I process things slowly and theer are many up and downs. Somedays I feel so free. Somedays my mind will spinn over again... I never repress things though and I know I will feel better with time even if it will hurt for a long time after I feel a "relief" and "release"...

posted January 29, 2019 05:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
Thank you so much for writing this!
I really appreciate it, very insightful and beautifully put together<3

Yes I know exactly how you mean! As I wrote in one of your posts, I am going through just
what you are describing in that post and here <3. I am at the finishing line, but something inside me still struggles. I think it will fade away with time though! I process things slowly and theer are many up and downs. Somedays I feel so free. Somedays my mind will spinn over again... I never repress things though and I know I will feel better with time even if it will hurt for a long time after I feel a "relief" and "release"...

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posted January 29, 2019 06:00 PM            

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Originally posted by implosions:
Nah, no such thing as doomed unless you accept that. I have plenty of inconjuncts in my chart, they are wonderful! Frustrating in the beginning, yes, but beautifully unique when they've found their balance and teamwork. In some ways, your doomed out look is pretty atypical for Pluto inconjunct Venus, actually! Venus has no idea what Pluto is about, frustrated and turned off by it's existence. And a stubborn Venus can be lazy and rude when it comes to actually getting something done! (Not you, just the Venus ) See what aspects are made to Venus to strengthen her.

Pluto opposing anything is really cool; it's a push/pull effect to balance out what needs to be done. It really does embody the whole 'let go' ideology because they are at odds. But Pluto in the third is a lovely placement; you need deep talks with a lot of information and mystery and purpose. And Mercury in the 9th is learning how to open up that third house; what a lovely placement! Venus in the 8th is beautifully placed as well actually, sitting in the true home of Pluto! If anything, it sounds like these guys are all set up to assist that Pluto in the Third house of mind, information gathering, projects and sibling-like peers.

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I never seen this kind of relating to thise placements! Thank you for writing this Yes I do actually like having that opposition, I like the push/pull effect very much for some reason! Its such a big part of my life really and I have many oppositions (and conjunctions) in my chart, so I like that energy.

Yes well doomed is a too strong of a word, I should not throw that around like that

posted January 29, 2019 06:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
I never seen this kind of relating to these placements! Thank you for writing this Yes I do actually like having that opposition, I like the push/pull effect very much for some reason! Its such a big part of my life really and I have many oppositions (and conjunctions) in my chart, so I like that energy.

Yes well doomed is a too strong of a word, I should not throw that around like that

Yes well my Venus is also conjunct Jupiter and my n.node, and pluto is inconjunct those too. But venus is also square Neptune, and thats so lovely! Really, one of my fav aspects for so many reasons... Neptune to my Sun, Mercury and Venus <3

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posted January 29, 2019 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
All the comments in this thread is so beautiful you all! I love the insights shared and advices given here, feels so healing!

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posted January 29, 2019 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
Pluto is in my 3rd,in scorpios. Opposite my Sun and Mercury in 9th. Inconjunct my Venus in 8th. Well, my poor mind is doomed! . Even if I get over the feelings, my mind will be obsessed for a loong time over the person I let go off.. sigh

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Looks like you need to concentrate on the the broad spectrum of things as opposed to every single fact and detail. There should always be a theme to what ever informations you find. There's a formula to how those facts and perspectives should be put together.

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posted January 30, 2019 09:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It is very strong primal power.

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posted January 30, 2019 09:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It is very strong primal power.

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posted January 30, 2019 09:38 PM            

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posted January 31, 2019 12:08 AM            

Sometimes Pluto can deceive making you think that you're in control when actually you're not. The eventual realisation will bring you pain. And the way I deal with my Pluto is to just let the pain come... accept the pain of losing...accept that there are things I can't explain or control. But the realisation helps me gain control of my emotions and realise what I'm doing, and that's the enlightenment.

posted January 31, 2019 12:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Pluto is good as it helps you to focus and be in control. It's an excellent power to be used in things like research/investigation. When you let Pluto overwhelm you and you try to control what you can't that's when it becomes dark and damaging (to self & others). Someone mentioned Pluto likes to flog a dead horse. I couldn't agree more. That's a common negative manifestation of Pluto which I see. Pluto always wanna seek an answer but the truth is there is no answer to everything.

Sometimes Pluto can deceive making you think that you're in control when actually you're not. The eventual realisation will bring you pain. And the way I deal with my Pluto is to just let the pain come... accept the pain of losing...accept that there are things I can't explain or control. But the realisation helps me gain control of my emotions and realise what I'm doing, and that's the enlightenment.

And then I jump to my 11H Jupiter to do happy things.

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posted January 31, 2019 03:50 AM            

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Originally posted by DRVM614K:
Lmao that caught me off gaurd

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posted January 31, 2019 11:14 AM            

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posted January 31, 2019 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Someone mentioned Pluto likes to flog a dead horse. I couldn't agree more. That's a common negative manifestation of Pluto which I see. Pluto always wanna seek an answer but the truth is there is no answer to everything.

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Lol that person was me! "beating the horse when its been dead for weeks", lol.
Mostly referring to how one obesessively hold on to someone one loves when its not going anywhere, and can't accept it and let it go.

But you explained it much better! And its appliable on many more subjects <3

"When you let Pluto overwhelm you and you try to control what you can't that's when it becomes dark and damaging ". <3

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posted January 31, 2019 08:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Valmu83:
What about natal Pluto in Libra?

Beating dead horse sounds like me especially when I was younger. I’m afraid there will be obsession in relationships area when solar arc Pluto will square my Venus. I hate that obsessive side of me but I have learned to let go. In days and weeks. That’s really progress as I have cried after nonexisting relationships five years...twice. Second time it was more like 8 years

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Look how many dead horses we've been flogging!