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Lalafortunaea
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posted January 29, 2019 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think it could ever be the case for some people that we sometimes actually should move AWAY from our NORTH NODE if we happen to ALREADY easily embody it, and need/should move toward our South Node?

If we're maybe not easily able to relate to our SN...

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posted January 29, 2019 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soulsjourney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the opposite issue, I have sun conjunct south node, so no matter how much I tried to get to my north node, it just feels so strange and wrong, like I am playing a role of the north node rather than incorporate the north node or be the north node.

I don't know if the conjunction means that I should go 50/50 between my north vs south node and sun.

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posted January 29, 2019 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I think rather than trying to be one it's more about solving the issues presented by it really. Whenever one tries to be like a certain placement because ' that's what you're supposed to be like according to you chart' it just becomes a mere play-acting really rather than something natural which arises from within when faced with certain situations (for example a mars in aries person will have a certain directness that comes from within even if the said person is an astrology illiterate) .

I think the whole point(in my humble opinion) is to maintain balance between both the nodes rather than getting transfixed by one node. In doing so(in my humble opinion again) , sometimes one has to move south and sometimes towards the north to make sure that the ship stays afloat.

In my own case Pluto conjunct my NN in Scorpio which makes me I guess North-node heavy and at times I don't giv jackshlt abt material world(in my case my body, guilty of straining it too much at times to satisfy my addiction to thrill I guess) . I think some people are definitely meant to move towards the SN to maintain that balance or equilibrium of the north and the south node.

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posted January 29, 2019 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ I think rather than trying to be one it's more about solving the issues presented by it really. Whenever one tries to be like a certain placement because ' that's what you're supposed to be like according to you chart' it just becomes a mere play-acting really rather than something natural which arises from within when faced with certain situations (for example a mars in aries person will have a certain directness that comes from within even if the said person is an astrology illiterate) .

I think the whole point(in my humble opinion) is to maintain balance between both the nodes rather than getting transfixed by one node. In doing so(in my humble opinion again) , sometimes one has to move south and sometimes towards the north to make sure that the ship stays afloat.

In my own case Pluto conjunct my NN in Scorpio which makes me I guess North-node heavy and at times I don't giv jackshlt abt material world(in my case my body, guilty of straining it too much at times to satisfy my addiction to thrill I guess) . I think some people are definitely meant to move towards the SN to maintain that balance or equilibrium of the north and the south node.


Hmmm that's actually well put and makes a lot of sense when you put it like that.

Thing is we often hear about the NN being our possible destiny, or our possible life path, or something we should aspire to. Or, that the NN is what we find difficult, so it is one of our "tests", while the SN is where we thrive and are comfortable, or, it's just where we came from in a past life, and the NN is where we're headed.

In my case I realize I actually am and have been very much my NN and have always kind of be far and "unfamiliar/reluctant" to get in touch with my SN. Which made me think, okay, maybe it's the opposite for some people. Maybe the SN is what some need.

But the way you put it makes sense, in that combining the two in an even middle ground would be more helpful and beneficial in the long run.

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posted January 29, 2019 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for coffeecuriosity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
word i agree.

when i travel on the astral plane and get this meat suit off, my soul energy resides in my south node placement. taurean/piscean

its like my north node is the meat suit i was put in, but to get what i want in life, i need to return to the south node because it gives me perspective and clarity to move forward.

everything in life gets better when i'm going my south node **** .

i don't think my soul is suppose to go to the north node. i think the north node just depicts all the ways your soul can be contaminated by this life. and you're suppose to stay away from it. especially with my freaking scorpio NN

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posted January 29, 2019 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've wondered about this exact thing. There is a clear imbalance regarding my nodes, because I'm more comfortable with my North Node and I have a clear preference for it. The overall goal, I believe, is balancing the nodes, not giving one of them up, but I'm not comfortable with my South Node. At one time, it's actually possible that I could have been more comfortable with my South Node yet this changed for many reasons.

South Node in 8th house fits me better than South Node in Cancer. The bias comes from clearly preferring my North Node in its entirety.

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posted January 29, 2019 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@coffee

What you said seems to be in agreement with the concept of 'Liberation of the Soul ' in Vedic Astro which basically seems to suggest that SN is the point of liberation/enlightenment. But I think avoiding one in favour of another would make the person's development very lopsided, however if we do indeed embody the qualities of our SN and have the qualities of SN fully developed and integrated into our psyche right from the birth like the concepts regarding SN usually suggest, then yeah focusing on just one too would also make sense.

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posted January 29, 2019 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 29, 2019 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRVM614K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Do you think it could ever be the case for some people that we sometimes actually should move AWAY from our NORTH NODE if we happen to ALREADY easily embody it, and need/should move toward our South Node?

If we're maybe not easily able to relate to our SN...



If you have planets that apply to the south node. Through square specifically.

Thats the premise of evolutionary astrology.

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posted January 29, 2019 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No. The North Node is the Ascending Node. That means it is the direction, the rising part of your soul development. You may take lurching steps in that direction, but it provides the balance of your soul.

The South Node is, of course, the Descending Node, which is losing emphasis as over-weighted on the scales of prior soul development. Yes, in this way it also represents strength, what is familiar, but the aim of all experience on Earth is towards fuller balance and expression of the soul.

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posted January 29, 2019 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRVM614K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you have planets conjunct the sn a karmic situation must take place in order for you to take advantage if that planet in a positive manner. Until the planet will basically hold you back from achieving your nn goals. These sitautions happen during the second inverse nodal return and saturn return.

Until your 1st saturn return your still living out your past life karma ie childhood.

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posted January 29, 2019 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
No. The North Node is the [b]Ascending Node. That means it is the direction, the rising part of your soul development. You may take lurching steps in that direction, but it provides the balance of your soul.

The South Node is, of course, the Descending Node, which is losing emphasis as over-weighted on the scales of prior soul development. Yes, in this way it also represents strength, what is familiar, but the aim of all experience on Earth is towards fuller balance and expression of the soul.

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So helpful, im wondering if my NN in the 7th .. would it curb my drive to achieve the full potential of it, 7th is the house of compromises i think.

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posted January 29, 2019 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRVM614K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So helpful, im wondering if my NN in the 7th .. would it curb my drive to achieve the full potential of it, 7th is the house of compromises i think.

Not at all. Youve been operating on a my perspective aproach to the point its detrimental ie sn in 1st. The only toawrds growth now is the 7th. Is there anything else thats aspecting the nodes?

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posted January 29, 2019 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Not at all. Youve been operating on a my perspective aproach to the point its detrimental ie sn in 1st. The only toawrds growth now is the 7th. Is there anything else thats aspecting the nodes?

Hey DRVM
NN conjunct Sun and Jupiter, but squaring a kite configuration in Water.

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posted January 29, 2019 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRVM614K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hey DRVM
NN conjunct Sun and Jupiter, but squaring a kite configuration in Water.

U have sun AND jupiter on nn lmao absolutely nothing you do will deter u from the nn lmao. So you have planets square on both sides?

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posted January 30, 2019 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
No. The North Node is the [b]Ascending Node. That means it is the direction, the rising part of your soul development. You may take lurching steps in that direction, but it provides the balance of your soul.

The South Node is, of course, the Descending Node, which is losing emphasis as over-weighted on the scales of prior soul development. Yes, in this way it also represents strength, what is familiar, but the aim of all experience on Earth is towards fuller balance and expression of the soul.

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We know what the NN and the SN represent.

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posted January 30, 2019 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:

What you said seems to be in agreement with the concept of 'Liberation of the Soul ' in Vedic Astro which basically seems to suggest that SN is the point of liberation/enlightenment. But I think avoiding one in favour of another would make the person's development very lopsided, however if we do indeed embody the qualities of our SN and have the qualities of SN fully developed and integrated into our psyche right from the birth like the concepts regarding SN usually suggest, then yeah focusing on just one too would also make sense.

That is one good way to look at it. We need to get to know them both equally and not focus wholly on one or the other, unless, as you say, we already have become comfortable in one node.
So, if we are comfortable in our NN, then we'd likely need to aspire to become more acquainted with our SN.

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posted January 30, 2019 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm maybe if you have many planets
supporting (conjuncting your NN) you might reach your North Node earlier and must work on your SN.

DRVM614K

What if someone has North Node in 7th H conjucting Neptune?
I also have Uranus and Neptune conjucting DSC
All in Capricorn.
To be honest my North Node feels wrong too
Especially with Transit Pluto conjucting it I don't feel anything changed. I actually feel that my NN wants me to follow my SN based on my experiences till now.

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posted January 30, 2019 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRVM614K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Hm maybe if you have many planets
supporting (conjuncting your NN) you might reach your North Node earlier and must work on your SN.

[b]DRVM614K

What if someone has North Node in 7th H conjucting Neptune?
I also have Uranus and Neptune conjucting DSC
All in Capricorn.
To be honest my North Node feels wrong too
Especially with Transit Pluto conjucting it I don't feel anything changed. I actually feel that my NN wants me to follow my SN based on my experiences till now. [/B]


ye people have incentive to go towards there nn if planets are conjunct it. wheres ur moon? pluto passing my Neptune wasn't very eventful either I think it goes along with the planet, illusions and what not.

have u had ur Saturn return? most people don't feel the need to access it until the 1st one unless they have something conj sn.

you should definitely work with Saturn for any issues accessing ur nn. sn on asc id imagine ur pretty blunt but intuitive.

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posted January 30, 2019 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DRVM614K:
ye people have incentive to go towards there nn if planets are conjunct it. wheres ur moon? pluto passing my Neptune wasn't very eventful either I think it goes along with the planet, illusions and what not.

have u had ur Saturn return? most people don't feel the need to access it until the 1st one unless they have something conj sn.

you should definitely work with Saturn for any issues accessing ur nn. sn on asc id imagine ur pretty blunt but intuitive.


My Moon is in Pisces
I didn't have my Saturn Return yet. Saturn is currently entering my 7th H and conjuncting my Neptune. Natally Saturn is in my 8th H (Aqua)

Nothing eventful happened for me too when T. Pluto conjuncted my Neptune just many times being in hospitals and health issues which is a classic in my life anyway.

However my NN is almost 3 orbs apart from Neptune and I am surprised that nothing happened except of getting obsessed with someone.
Is your Neptune in 7th H too?


How did you figure out I'm blunt and intuitive? Both are true. Well intuitive because of Neptune conjuncting NN maybe? but blunt? I have Mercury in 1st H (Cancer)

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posted January 30, 2019 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i've thought a lot about this, and it comes up with my particular placement of having NN in the 4th and SN in the 10th -- for some reason this placement means you should gravitate towards both axes. the SN in the 10th has to be developed fully before the NN in the 4th can. so i'm just gonna go with that, because it feels right to me anyway. the only placements i have that affect is are ASC parallel SN and Venus conjunct IC and (widely) NN. Plus Jupiter-Pluto in the 4th. it's all weird to me because family is the last thing on my priority list :c

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posted February 04, 2019 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 04, 2019 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRVM614K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
My Moon is in Pisces
I didn't have my Saturn Return yet. Saturn is currently entering my 7th H and conjuncting my Neptune. Natally Saturn is in my 8th H (Aqua)

Nothing eventful happened for me too when T. Pluto conjuncted my Neptune just many times being in hospitals and health issues which is a classic in my life anyway.

However my NN is almost 3 orbs apart from Neptune and I am surprised that nothing happened except of getting obsessed with someone.
Is your Neptune in 7th H too?


How did you figure out I'm blunt and intuitive? Both are true. Well intuitive because of Neptune conjuncting NN maybe? but blunt? I have Mercury in 1st H (Cancer)



Iw as saying intuitive from the point of ur asc sn conjunction. Youve developed ur path in past lives so theres no need to search for meaning. I was saying work with your natal saturn since it rules your north node. 2nd best placement so it should be relatively easy.

Is natal pluto sextile your Neptune?

But yes its excellent you met someone when pluto hit ur dsc. It could be a lot worse and confusing.

With the nodes about to oppose them selves you should see some activity dealing with that pisces moon as well as aqua saturn. .ca

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posted February 04, 2019 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRVM614K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
i've thought a lot about this, and it comes up with my particular placement of having NN in the 4th and SN in the 10th -- for some reason this placement means you should gravitate towards both axes. the SN in the 10th has to be developed fully before the NN in the 4th can. so i'm just gonna go with that, because it feels right to me anyway. the only placements i have that affect is are ASC parallel SN and Venus conjunct IC and (widely) NN. Plus Jupiter-Pluto in the 4th. it's all weird to me because family is the last thing on my priority list :c

Unless pluto is conjunct your nn then u want to develop the opposing house sign and planets of plutos placement.

With pluto in the fourth you want to establish that authority and what ever system of ideals and beliefs before you get that inner security, home life. Look to the ruler of your north node for help

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posted February 04, 2019 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HelixID     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We all know the descriptions and what the nodes supposedly represent but I don't know, it seems too simplistic, too black and white.

I thought of the people who have personal planets conjunct the SN. Is their destiny to be stuck in the past? It's hard to accept such a concept.

I noticed, though, that the people I know with Sun conjunct SN are somehow lost in life, high strung or depressed.

I tend to believe that each planet, placement or aspect is either an opportunity or a curse but that we decide what it's going to be.

Pluto can be passion, intensity and transformation but it can also be cruelty or wickedness.
Neptune can make someone artistic, compassionate or idealistic but it can also make someone delusional or a hopeless addict.

It's the same with nodes, I believe.
There's nothing bad with feeling confident in an area or having a skill set one can always go back to. The problem arises when one is not able to leave the comfort zone, I guess.

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