posted February 09, 2019 02:06 PM            

I'm very afraid of the results, I'm afraid if doctors can detect cancer. I love my father more than anyone in the world.

I don't know how to make a progressed natal chart.
But this is my father's natal chart:

The colonoscopy test will be On February 11th, 2019
In Spain.

Please, I need to know if everything's going to be okay.

Thank you very much to anyone who can help me.

posted February 09, 2019 02:16 PM            

it could just as easily be something like an ulcer or ibd etc it doesn't have to be your worst fears, and even if it is like i said there are treatments and remission

going straight to the worst case scenario can be normal, but all you're doing is working yourself up before there's any news

posted February 09, 2019 02:55 PM            

I mean yes I feel transit Uranus is activating some unexpected health issues. Now does this mean he has cancer? Possibly but it could be something else too. Does this mean he will die unexpectedly/suddenly from the health issues that will be discovered and brought to light? IDK, potentially.

posted February 10, 2019 01:45 AM            

@WhiteBirds, believing what everyone says will just cause you stress and make you sick. There're a lot of individuals in your father's position, a small percentage have something going on with them, an even smaller percentage with cancer, and a fraction of those actually die due to treatments not working. Don't work yourself up, this doesn't have to mean anything. And even if yes, it doesn't mean a subsequent death for him.

Seriously, don't let anyone's comments get to you.

True word: when someone has a bad dream, they say you should tell it to a good friend only who'll translate it in a positive light. Cuz the prediction of the person translating it is much rather powerful than the actual dream. Just telling it to someone who doesn't care about you, they'll just put their own negative spin on it and have it manifest negatively.

posted February 10, 2019 02:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
there are a lot of other things that can cause that issue, and a good deal of them aren't as immediately serious as cancer (which can be treated and isn't necessarily an immediate death sentence) so before you panic keep that in mind

it could just as easily be something like an ulcer or ibd etc it doesn't have to be your worst fears, and even if it is like i said there are treatments and remission

going straight to the worst case scenario can be normal, but all you're doing is working yourself up before there's any news

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Agreed. There's always the possibility of it being cancer but it could also be something else.

That doesn't mean you can't predict death in the natal chart. I have Moon in the 8th opposite Pluto exact, and so many interpretations, if not talking about the mother being obsessive and controlling, talked about death of the mother that impacts the childs life.

My mom died from stage four breast cancer (a Plutonian disease) after suffering with it for five years, due to it being too aggressive and the doctors not being able to find a treatment for it. It's because of this that I don't write off death predictions in the natal chart.

posted February 10, 2019 02:55 AM            

I responded to her question with the respect that I would want someone to give to me if I opened a thread asking for that information.

As a Sag riser with mercury in Virgo I want the truth period and the truth helps me prepare for all possible scenarios which helps me deal with however things turn out much better than if I was not seeing it coming at all.

posted February 10, 2019 03:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Seriously @hypatia and @athenegoddess you should remove your posts. Nobody cares about how well you can predict someone's future. There's no point in making her believe this, it's just a self-fulfilling prophecy.

@WhiteBirds, believing what everyone says will just cause you stress and make you sick. There're a lot of individuals in your father's position, a small percentage have something going on with them, an even smaller percentage with cancer, and a fraction of those actually die due to treatments not working. Don't work yourself up, this doesn't have to mean anything. And even if yes, it doesn't mean a subsequent death for him.

Seriously, don't let anyone's comments get to you.

True word: when someone has a bad dream, they say you should tell it to a good friend only who'll translate it in a positive light. Cuz the prediction of the person translating it is much rather powerful than the actual dream. Just telling it to someone who doesn't care about you, they'll just put their own negative spin on it and have it manifest negatively.

You shouldn't ask a bunch of random people online who just like to show off their predictive abilities.

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They're not even trying to "show off their predictive abilities". They're trying to help her with something that is clearly bothering her. You make it seem like they're just bullying her and being pretentious.

posted February 10, 2019 03:24 AM            

There answering the questions and giving advice to the best of there ability.

Athens just responds in a very short and blunt capacity.

From my perspective i don't think its anything to be worried about. A couple months ago saturn was aspecting his 6th house ruler. Uranus is trining his mars as well so there could be spontaneous things popping up. He made it through pluto conj mars apparent that would have been the one worry about.

posted February 10, 2019 07:30 AM            

That being said, sometimes you're supposed to know when to just not speak. I mean especially when you're putting forth your opinion as a fact - in an undue time.

She's clearly nervous... And you're like, 'yeah he's gonna die'.

And preparing herself for precisely what truth? I mean I get what Astrology is about. But the same way one can overlook a characteristic one might have in a natal chart, one might just as well overlook an aspect that'll render an entire prediction false. But she wouldn't know it. Cuz you're technically just picking on the negative transits.

posted February 10, 2019 07:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
They're not even trying to "show off their predictive abilities". They're trying to help her with something that is clearly bothering her. You make it seem like they're just bullying her and being pretentious.

Also, if I were her I would rather hear the truth of the matter instead of some sugar-coated ******** where people are telling me that everything will be alright when it won't. Everybody told my dad, "Just pray and have faith in god and everything will be okay," but that didn't do **** when it came to my mom dying from cancer. On top of that it was because they couldn't find a treatment that worked against the cancer. Making seem like everything is going to be okay when it isn't only does more harm than good; all you're doing is running away from reality. She ought to know the truth so she can deal with it in the best way possible.

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Well first, no one can know if it's the truth. Astrology is a tool that can be used wrong just as it can be used right.

posted February 10, 2019 07:59 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Quite frankly I find it insulting and patronizing for you to assume that she cannot handle different types of responses when that is obviously what would happen initiating a thread of this nature in an astrological forum, this is not psychology today. Don't put me down because I am freaking responding to her question.

Shaming me bc I am actually answering her question! SMH...

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She didn't think cause and effect here... Not in an insulting manner, she was just asking for 'help' <-- as the key word here. What you did certainly didn't help her.

posted February 10, 2019 09:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Seriously @hypatia and @athenegoddess you should remove your posts. Nobody cares about how well you can predict someone's future. There's no point in making her believe this, it's just a self-fulfilling prophecy.

@WhiteBirds, believing what everyone says will just cause you stress and make you sick. There're a lot of individuals in your father's position, a small percentage have something going on with them, an even smaller percentage with cancer, and a fraction of those actually die due to treatments not working. Don't work yourself up, this doesn't have to mean anything. And even if yes, it doesn't mean a subsequent death for him.

Seriously, don't let anyone's comments get to you.

True word: when someone has a bad dream, they say you should tell it to a good friend only who'll translate it in a positive light. Cuz the prediction of the person translating it is much rather powerful than the actual dream. Just telling it to someone who doesn't care about you, they'll just put their own negative spin on it and have it manifest negatively.

You shouldn't ask a bunch of random people online who just like to show off their predictive abilities.

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i agree on everything. especially on the last part. possible risks in the natal chart if seen, could be presented differently and not in a such blunt manner.
@Brenda_S no need to apologize to anyone, you are right, their responses were really insensitive.

@WhiteBirds hope your father will be fine. don‘t drive yourself mad, wait for the results and comfort your father now if he is worried. and seriously, don‘t ask random strangers online about this. it will only make you worry more.

posted February 10, 2019 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by squirrel:
i agree on everything. especially on the last part. possible risks in the natal chart if seen, could be presented differently and not in a such blunt manner.
@Brenda_S no need to apologize to anyone, you are right, their responses were really insensitive.

@WhiteBirds hope your father will be fine. don‘t drive yourself mad, wait for the results and comfort your father now if he is worried. and seriously, don‘t ask random strangers online about this. it will only make you worry more.

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I thought I was maybe too blunt too. My Mars-Mercury square becomes verbally offensive sometimes (I should probably stop blaming it). But I still think they attacked a vulnerable moment of hers. Anyway, new day now.

posted February 10, 2019 07:25 PM            

I also appreciate the opinion of @hypatia.
I think it is necessary to know all the possible options, in order to prevent everything that may happen.

Tomorrow is the colonoscopy test. I pray a lot to God so that everything goes well.

posted February 11, 2019 01:05 PM            

So it's all right
My father doesn't have cancer or anything dangerous.

posted February 11, 2019 01:37 PM            

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Originally posted by WhiteBirds:
News
The result of colonoscopy was a benign polyp.
The doctor has gutted polyp, And he has assured us that everything is fine and that there is nothing to worry about.

So it's all right
My father doesn't have cancer or anything dangerous.

Many thanks to all and blessings for all 🙏

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posted February 11, 2019 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by WhiteBirds:
News
The result of colonoscopy was a benign polyp.
The doctor has gutted polyp, And he has assured us that everything is fine and that there is nothing to worry about.

So it's all right
My father doesn't have cancer or anything dangerous.

Many thanks to all and blessings for all 🙏

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glad to hear it

my mother has crohn's disease, and has had cancer scares in the past that turned out to be **** like polyps so that's why i told you to chill (also because getting worked up before anything is an issue is just a waste of emotion)

then again i bet all that worrying made you that much more relieved to hear the good news lol

@hypatia for what it's worth i didn't see what you said as insensitive, if someone asks all you can do is your best to provide them with the information and knowledge you can share

also she was comfortable with it so i see no issue with someone who wasn't part of the equation having a problem with it

she's an adult who understood what she was asking, and that wasn't to be coddled but to be informed

it would've been wrong to lie about possibilities you saw even if they sounded nicer

posted February 11, 2019 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by WhiteBirds:
News
The result of colonoscopy was a benign polyp.
The doctor has gutted polyp, And he has assured us that everything is fine and that there is nothing to worry about.

So it's all right
My father doesn't have cancer or anything dangerous.

Many thanks to all and blessings for all 🙏

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Yes!!! So glad to hear it!

You guys need to celebrate the good news.

BTW what I said about Pluto hitting mercury which rules his 8th 4 years from now, don't stress about that, bc is just a theory, the 8th also rules joint finances, debt, loans, inheritances etc so pluto hitting mercury could just mean a transformation in his financial situation, like his financial situation could improve or he can gain more debt, who knows.

posted February 11, 2019 05:29 PM            

And the fact that it can play out both ways, that you should've brought to the forefront before. Not after seeing that he's not sick and you don't wanna be completely off with your prediction in four years from now.

I don't know why I'm ridiculing you. I'm actually sorry.

But honestly WhiteBirds wouldn't 'confirm' your insensitivity. I don't know why you're taking her word at face value. Now with the back and forth argument in this thread she's a bit more aware of the possibility (or not) of it being true, so is of course ok with it. But even if not she wouldn't just admit that it's not ok (Scorpio Moon).