posted February 12, 2019 09:54 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Aries 8H Lilith sq 11H Cancer Mercury

I have trouble communicating verbally at times because I think faster than I speak which makes me blurt out 1/2 of what I think/want to say.

I am however pretty aggressive with what I say and can be “short”. I can simply answer “no” to a question and that’s really all I mean; no. Some people seem to want more out of that “no” but I have nothing further to offer.
I can sometimes feel enormous anxiety having to explain myself so that people understand me in THEIR WAY. What ever happened trying to understand me in MY point of view??

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posted February 12, 2019 10:44 AM            

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Originally posted by DRVM614K:
I've been displaying some traits of toxic masculinity. I deserve to be severely punished.

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posted February 12, 2019 03:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Nadja:
I have a whole host of strong feminine asteroids conjunct my Sun. Apart from Lilith there are Vesta, Bellona and, minor but in this context significant, Soromundi (Sisters of the World). That's some fierce feminine power in there! Sun and Lilith along with devotion, feminine fighting spirit, sisterhood... I do share my mother's strong feminist values and rebellion against the standards of society.

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Yeah wow, that's a lot of Lilith/feminine energy in your family! All the Lilith strong types I know as well (though more specifically if it's on the upper half of the chart, or near the MC) tend to have a lot harder of a time really accepting their own personal worth in the world. Deep down they maybe know it, but it's only behind closed doors and when pushed with the right people. Usually it can be heartbreaking to see how much they really reject themselves (but also I understand how hard it can be to accept the Lilith energy in ourselves when it's strongly placed).

posted February 12, 2019 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Aries 8H Lilith sq 11H Cancer Mercury

I have trouble communicating verbally at times because I think faster than I speak which makes me blurt out 1/2 of what I think/want to say.

I am however pretty aggressive with what I say and can be “short”. I can simply answer “no” to a question and that’s really all I mean; no. Some people seem to want more out of that “no” but I have nothing further to offer.
I can sometimes feel enormous anxiety having to explain myself so that people understand me in THEIR WAY. What ever happened trying to understand me in MY point of view??

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posted February 12, 2019 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by DRVM614K:
You have to kill em. Thats what im dealing with. Really you have to treat people like kids.

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posted February 12, 2019 04:00 PM            

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Originally posted by implosions:
Yeah wow, that's a lot of Lilith/feminine energy in your family! All the Lilith strong types I know as well (though more specifically if it's on the upper half of the chart, or near the MC) tend to have a lot harder of a time really accepting their own personal worth in the world. Deep down they maybe know it, but it's only behind closed doors and when pushed with the right people. Usually it can be heartbreaking to see how much they really reject themselves (but also I understand how hard it can be to accept the Lilith energy in ourselves when it's strongly placed).

That's really cool that you've got so much strong feminine energy as well; it makes sense having a mother that way/being raised in that environment. We always need strong women as much as every other type <3

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Maybe it's beneficial to have Lilith touching Ego parts of the chart, like Sun, Moon, Ascendant... but less so if it touches parts of the chart associated with the public, other people, social activities? Lilith as part of the Ego might bring tremendous empowerment I think. At least that is my experience. But Lilith isn't very accepted in society, and a connection between Lilith and the public in a chart might invite self-criticism...? Just a thought.

posted February 12, 2019 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Nadja:
Maybe it's beneficial to have Lilith touching Ego parts of the chart, like Sun, Moon, Ascendant... but less so if it touches parts of the chart associated with the public, other people, social activities? Lilith as part of the Ego might bring tremendous empowerment I think. At least that is my experience. But Lilith isn't very accepted in society, and a connection between Lilith and the public in a chart might invite self-criticism...? Just a thought.

And I guess having Lilith touch more primal, aggressive parts of the chart, like say Pluto or Mars, might tip the scales a bit too far in the other direction... too intense, iconoclastic, destructive towards others??

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True! I have Lilith conjunct three personal planets as well as Pluto, and I do feel a lot of empowerment on a personal level. But I also have asteroid Lilith conjunct the NN, and I find the 'social rejection' feeling in that area as well (and it's in the 11th house, so somewhat doubled).

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[/B]Lol! I think my one time fascination (fairly short lived, but intense) with psychoanalysis is showing. The above is like literally super-ego, ego and id. Super-ego and id being bad places for Lilith, and ego being better...[/B]

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posted February 12, 2019 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by implosions:
This is horrible dad-advice :laugh: Everyone has a child mind, and lbh, ARIES exists as the inner child, so they naturally understand anyway.

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This is immaculate advice. There should be a line of self respect when dealing with certain people. If people act so inconsiderately they deserve it lmao (but of course im serious).

You dont value me enough to see things from my perspective? Thats exactly how going to treat everybody when pluto hits my asc. Since I dont wanna haul off and get my revenge promptly like i would all the time, theres going to be a **** load patronizing and condescension . Its the least i could do.

posted February 12, 2019 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by DRVM614K:
This is immaculate advice. There should be a line of self respect when dealing with certain people. If people act so inconsiderately they deserve it lmao (but of course im serious).

You dont value me enough to see things from my perspective? Thats exactly how going to treat everybody when pluto hits my asc. Since I dont wanna haul off and get my revenge promptly like i would all the time, theres going to be a **** load patronizing and condescension . Its the least i could do.

Plus aries rules my 3rd house i know when people genuinely dont get it and when there full of it.. Usually the latter

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I meannnn there's always the chance that Pluto could backfire with so much exertion when it hits your AC lmao. But I haven't experienced it and I probably won't until I'm at least in my 70s, so who knows